classy52 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I think I shall be digging deep to get DRS plain blue class 68. They really are great models in my eyes. I've already got all 5 DRS and will refrain from getting all 3 this time but will purchase the DRS plain blue to go with ones I've got, yes agreed they are a great model from Dapol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Hi, When are they due? Really tempted by a TPE one, although it'll be a struggle justifying it on a South London Layout.... Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal.n Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlLyNKZX4AA2SE-?format=jpg&name=large Here is a link for anyone without access to Facebook. (With dates and prices) Remeber 68026 is also a TPE allocated machine and once mk5 sets begin running it won’t be seen on any other traffic types. The photo is too lo-res to see, but terms of detail differences all of 68019-032 have a dot matrix destination display inside the cab and a new square multiple working connector to talk to the DVT and open doors etc.. Both are probably easily achievable with plasticard. I better get on with doing my mk5s then... Edit: The Models in the photos don’t even have buffers yet so maybe it’s a bit unfair of me to start looking for individual detail differences. Edited August 22, 2018 by cal.n Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdbath Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Morning everyone. Does anyone from Dapol contribute on here? I was just wondering whether these new models are subject to any change in the livery application? Although it's only a low res image, and possibly lighting has played its part, some of the colours in the TPE livery look a bit questionable. I'm thinking the light blue part round the cab fronts looks too light compared to shots of the real thing. Also, the diagonal band which runs from the headlights, across the door and up to the cantrail seems to fade from dark blue to white on the model, whereas in real life it goes dark blue to light blue. As I say, it could just be the lighting. It's such a 'marmite' of a livery in real life and it'd be a shame if the model was way out and consequently didn't sell! Regards, Roge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted August 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2018 Morning everyone. Does anyone from Dapol contribute on here? I was just wondering whether these new models are subject to any change in the livery application? Although it's only a low res image, and possibly lighting has played its part, some of the colours in the TPE livery look a bit questionable. I'm thinking the light blue part round the cab fronts looks too light compared to shots of the real thing. Also, the diagonal band which runs from the headlights, across the door and up to the cantrail seems to fade from dark blue to white on the model, whereas in real life it goes dark blue to light blue. As I say, it could just be the lighting. It's such a 'marmite' of a livery in real life and it'd be a shame if the model was way out and consequently didn't sell! Regards, Roge. No they no longer do.This unfortunately as a result of certain forum members posting contentious,not to say inflammatory,criticism. Try their own website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullCityB17 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) I fancy TPE as well, but nothing to run it with is a major disincentive . They are really only going to run with Mk5sIt can be run with the Prendalino MK3 which Hornby produced as it run a few tests on the WCML before going abroad? https://www.flickr.com/photos/37190-dalzell/25243804377 Edited August 22, 2018 by HullCityB17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroborus Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) Good Morning everyone. Does anyone from Dapol contribute on here? I was just wondering whether these new models are subject to any change in the livery application? Although it's only a low res image, and possibly lighting has played its part, some of the colours in the TPE livery look a bit questionable. I'm thinking the light blue part round the cab fronts looks too light compared to shots of the real thing. Also, the diagonal band which runs from the headlights, across the door and up to the cantrail seems to fade from dark blue to white on the model, whereas in real life it goes dark blue to light blue. As I say, it could just be the lighting. It's such a 'marmite' of a livery in real life and it'd be a shame if the model was way out and consequently didn't sell! Regards, Roge. Good point. I think all the colours seem too light, so hopefully its just a lighting issue with the photograph. That mid blue seems washed out towards the roof. Edited September 4, 2018 by Andy Y Image removed due to copyright breach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdbath Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 No they no longer do.This unfortunately as a result of certain forum members posting contentious,not to say inflammatory,criticism. Try their own website. Ok, thanks for the info. What a shame that people are driven away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Apologies to Dapols use of their picture - but does anyone not think that this would be a) safer and b) better looking... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted August 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 22, 2018 a) Probably yes b) no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeharvey22 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I do not think that a yellow end really makes a safety difference when the loco is coming towards an pedestrian observer with the headlights on. I prefer the original design. For someone approaching from the rear as a pedestrian the yellow end would not be more visible than bright red lights. Approaching at low speed in another loco to couple up I can't see the yellow end having a real safety impact whether showing red or white lights. Dapol’s rendition of the colour breaks looks spot on. They have said on the Dapol digest that they use train operators’ colour references, though they can sometimes make the model look too dark and might need tweaking a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I know this isn't the place for opening up the yellow end debate - but I think that it is still needed overall for safety and think that the livery looks better with the contrast of yellow adding to the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullCityB17 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Why? Early BR Green Diesels and Electrics didn’t need yellow ends. Locomotives in the USA, Canada and the rest of Europe do not need them. I think we should remove them and maybe A) people will be a lot more careful who work on the railway. B) People who trespass on the railway should think more carefully before risking their life if it is harder to see what is coming Until people get wise to the fact that a Yellow cab can’t be treated like a hard hat and protect you from being an idiot. Anyway, the yellow cab doesn’t make the locomotive any more safe than big flashing lights and a klaxon saying get out of the way!!! Back on topic - I think it looks better without the yellow ends as the yellow ruins it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I'm totally out of the loop with the really modern stuff, but if that Brutus thing becomes a regular around my neck of the woods, which it should do, then I'll be up for one. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Morning everyone. Does anyone from Dapol contribute on here? I was just wondering whether these new models are subject to any change in the livery application? Although it's only a low res image, and possibly lighting has played its part, some of the colours in the TPE livery look a bit questionable. I'm thinking the light blue part round the cab fronts looks too light compared to shots of the real thing. Also, the diagonal band which runs from the headlights, across the door and up to the cantrail seems to fade from dark blue to white on the model, whereas in real life it goes dark blue to light blue. As I say, it could just be the lighting. It's such a 'marmite' of a livery in real life and it'd be a shame if the model was way out and consequently didn't sell! Regards, Roge. Good Good point. I think all the colours seem too light, so hopefully its just a lighting issue with the photograph. That mid blue seems washed out towards the roof. These are livery samples, with the very PR stating the liveries are subject to revision. Thus yes, the TPE shall be tweaked before delivery. You shall note that 68019 in prototype form has the vossloh badge that the livery sample is missing too. I am sure by Q4 we shall be delighted (as ever) with these wonderful models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock_2007 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlLyNKZX4AA2SE-?format=jpg&name=large Here is a link for anyone without access to Facebook. (With dates and prices) Remeber 68026 is also a TPE allocated machine and once mk5 sets begin running it won’t be seen on any other traffic types. The photo is too lo-res to see, but terms of detail differences all of 68019-032 have a dot matrix destination display inside the cab and a new square multiple working connector to talk to the DVT and open doors etc.. Both are probably easily achievable with plasticard. I better get on with doing my mk5s then... Edit: The Models in the photos don’t even have buffers yet so maybe it’s a bit unfair of me to start looking for individual detail differences. just wondering but has anyone said anything about mk5's? and a DVT of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal.n Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) just wondering but has anyone said anything about mk5's? and a DVT of course.Not that I’m aware of. I am in the process of designing bodyshells of Mk5 coaches and the DT to be 3D printed which will be available on Shapeways. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/130381-caf-mark-5-coach-in-4mm-scratchbuild/ Edited August 23, 2018 by cal.n Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Good Good point. I think all the colours seem too light, so hopefully its just a lighting issue with the photograph. That mid blue seems washed out towards the roof. The prototype picture looks to be on a very dull day. The model picture will have been taken under bright studio lighting. (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdbath Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 These are livery samples, with the very PR stating the liveries are subject to revision. Thus yes, the TPE shall be tweaked before delivery. You shall note that 68019 in prototype form has the vossloh badge that the livery sample is missing too. I am sure by Q4 we shall be delighted (as ever) with these wonderful models. Yes, you're quite right it does say that. I hadn't intended to sound like I was slagging the model off! Just trying to offer some feedback in a positive manner (hopefully) before it's too late and they're getting hammered in magazine reviews. I look forward to the revised production version. Do you think it'll have a working DCC controlled destination screen?! (Haha!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullCityB17 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 It would if it was in O Gauge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) Early BR Green Diesels and Electrics didn’t need yellow ends. Locomotives in the USA, Canada and the rest of Europe do not need them. I think we should remove them and maybe A) people will be a lot more careful who work on the railway. Clearly a comment from someone who doesn't work on the railway. With all due respect, the above is a daft sentiment, bordering on suggesting that operators should deliberately make trains less visible in order to improve staff concentration. May we ask what it is you do for a living? Edited August 24, 2018 by YesTor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted August 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) Clearly a comment from someone who doesn't work on the railway. With all due respect, the above is a daft sentiment, bordering on suggesting that operators should deliberately make trains less visible in order to improve staff concentration. May we ask what it is you do for a living? Going O/T. Shame that HCB17's post wasn't in the prototype discussion yellow ends thread - now that would have been good to watch...... (edited for clarity) Edited August 24, 2018 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Going O/T. Shame that HCB17's post wasn't in the "proper" yellow ends thread - now that would have been good to watch...... What there's a 'yellow ends' thread???...I've wasted my life where I could have been in the 'yellow ends' thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Looks as good as can be with that awful livery that appears to have been knocked up in five minutes by a toddler with crayons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal.n Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Looks as good as can be with that awful livery that appears to have been knocked up in five minutes by a toddler with crayons *cough* https://www.flickr.com/photos/21095258@N03/5896597719 *cough* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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