classy52 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Does anyone know where you can purchase the Shawplan EEDP68-01 etched Class 68 brake disc inserts? Rainbow Railways online store don't have them advertised anymore and a Google search on the product code brings up nothing apart from Shawplan's website catalogue entry, also there is nothing on eBay which is a bit weird. Anyway any info on where to purchase these would be greatly appreciated, I will continue my search in the meantime. Cheers Steve Edited February 14, 2018 by classy52 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 14, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2018 Does anyone know where you can purchase the Shawplan EEDP68-01 etched Class 68 brake disc inserts? Rainbow Railways online store don't have them advertised anymore and a Google search on the product code brings up nothing apart from Shawplan's website catalogue entry, also there is nothing on eBay which is a bit weird. Anyway any info on where to purchase these would be greatly appreciated, I will continue my search in the meantime. Cheers Steve Shawplan is a good place to start..... You could try emailing them. I know they've been very busy of late and have been difficult to get hold of, but they were at BRM Doncaster last weekend. They are listed as being at Nottingham in 4 weeks time. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Do Nicely Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 You can now buy the correct wheel sets from Dapol via DCC Supplies as well. £10 per pair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Shawplan is a good place to start..... You could try emailing them. I know they've been very busy of late and have been difficult to get hold of, but they were at BRM Doncaster last weekend. They are listed as being at Nottingham in 4 weeks time. Cheers, Mick Yes that is going to be my next step as I've only been looking in the last couple of hours, hopefully he's able to sell via email and living in South London an online sale is the only route for me unless he goes to Ally Pally in March which I will be attending. Edited February 14, 2018 by classy52 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 You can now buy the correct wheel sets from Dapol via DCC Supplies as well. £10 per pair Yes thanks for that, had a look but it seems a bit of overkill and expensive way to do it as each loco would cost £40 to convert and the inserts are stated as being printed and not etched, I think the Shawplan etched disc inserts are about £8 for a complete set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 14, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2018 Yes that is going to be my next step as I've only been looking in the last couple of hours, hopefully he's able to sell via email and living in South London an online sale is the only route for me unless he goes to Ally Pally in March which I will be attending. https://www.world-of-railways.co.uk/shows/show/the-london-festival-of-railway-modelling/exhibitors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 https://www.world-of-railways.co.uk/shows/show/the-london-festival-of-railway-modelling/exhibitors Damn you are good, thanks mate...must admit haven't even looked at that or purchased my ticket yet. Cheers Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Do Nicely Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Classy 52..... ah well there’s the thing.....I ordered a set for a complete loco, told what I needed was £40 , when it arrived there was 8 wheel sets in the package.....weird! By my calculations what you need is 2 pairs, which should be £20, unless I’m missing something. So I now have a full spare set. They are very good to be fair, match the other 3 68s I have, and are fitted in 10 mins. 20 quid is ok I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Classy 52..... ah well there’s the thing.....I ordered a set for a complete loco, told what I needed was £40 , when it arrived there was 8 wheel sets in the package.....weird! By my calculations what you need is 2 pairs, which should be £20, unless I’m missing something. So I now have a full spare set. They are very good to be fair, match the other 3 68s I have, and are fitted in 10 mins. 20 quid is ok I suppose. Sounds like someone at DCC Supplies messed up and you ended up getting freebies...result. Had another look at their item and it states 'A set consists of 2x wheels, 1x axle, gears and bearings' which says to me you will need to purchase 4 of these to complete a loco costing £40. Edited February 14, 2018 by classy52 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Does anyone know where you can purchase the Shawplan EEDP68-01 etched Class 68 brake disc inserts? Rainbow Railways online store don't have them advertised anymore and a Google search on the product code brings up nothing apart from Shawplan's website catalogue entry, also there is nothing on eBay which is a bit weird. Anyway any info on where to purchase these would be greatly appreciated, I will continue my search in the meantime. Cheers Steve If you're not too fussed about the "etch" part of it, I recall someone selling deals that simply fit onto the wheels and make it look like an disc. I really don't know who did that but try the usual suppliers like Railtec, Precision, Rainbow Railways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railtec-models Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 If you're not too fussed about the "etch" part of it, I recall someone selling deals that simply fit onto the wheels and make it look like an disc. I really don't know who did that but try the usual suppliers like Railtec, Precision, Rainbow Railways. Here you go from Railtec. As you would expect, the "insides" of the discs are hollow meaning that you just place the transfer in situ and remove the backing paper. A bit like the table cloth routine but without Debbie McGee. Results in the second photo. http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=2672 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdw7300 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Here you go from Railtec. As you would expect, the "insides" of the discs are hollow meaning that you just place the transfer in situ and remove the backing paper. A bit like the table cloth routine but without Debbie McGee. Results in the second photo. http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=2672 A vote in favour of using Railtec transfers (no connection etc...). Dead easy and a bit cheaper than the etched versions - see my post earlier up this thread here which included a brief "how to". 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 A vote in favour of using Railtec transfers (no connection etc...). Dead easy and a bit cheaper than the etched versions - see my post earlier up this thread here which included a brief "how to". Obviously popular as they’ve sold out.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railtec-models Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) Obviously popular as they’ve sold out.... They'll be back imminently. Just click on the "Notify me" link, pop in your email address and you get an email the second they're back in stock with a link to the page. Simples! Works out at £2.90 for a loco (incl 2 spares too), with std 1st class P&P being £1.19. Edited February 18, 2018 by railtec-models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 They'll be back imminently. Just click on the "Notify me" link, pop in your email address and you get an email the second they're back in stock with a link to the page. Simples! Works out at £2.90 for a loco (incl 2 spares too), with std 1st class P&P being £1.19. Thanks, yes I did when I noticed they were sold out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnfromoz Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Here you go from Railtec. As you would expect, the "insides" of the discs are hollow meaning that you just place the transfer in situ and remove the backing paper. A bit like the table cloth routine but without Debbie McGee. Results in the second photo. http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=2672 Do you recommend sealing these with a varnish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittannia Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Do you recommend sealing these with a varnish? Railtec say to use matt clear spray varnish to fasten down the etching on tthe wheel and not the ""brush type varnish, presume brush would possibly move the Railtec transfers, to use the transfers leave them in cold tap water, place on the wheel, I damped the transfer with a paper tissue waited and then as above just gently edged the white backing off. I also have the 68008 with the wheels factory "etched" not much difference in appearance to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Railtec say to use matt clear spray varnish to fasten down the etching on tthe wheel and not the ""brush type varnish, presume brush would possibly move the Railtec transfers, to use the transfers leave them in cold tap water, place on the wheel, I damped the transfer with a paper tissue waited and then as above just gently edged the white backing off. I also have the 68008 with the wheels factory "etched" not much difference in appearance to me. Thanks for the info. Any pictures to show the differences please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ncarter2 Posted February 25, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2018 Apologies if this is a silly question but what is the difference between Dapol’s “early” and “late” versions? I’m looking to buy 68001, according to the description it’s had the livery issues corrected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted February 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2018 IIRC the late versions have a bigger fuel tank, different hand rails and AAR style multiple working wiring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 The AAR socket is only on those in use with Chiltern (68008-15) Jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Apologies if this is a silly question but what is the difference between Dapol’s “early” and “late” versions? I’m looking to buy 68001, according to the description it’s had the livery issues corrected. I too wondered this, but after Kaput's answer, I went to Rails' website and looked up two of the models, opening their pages in new tabs, then flicking back and forth between them. The two models I chose were DRS 68 003 (early) and 68 008 (later), and the difference in the fuel tanks was then obvious. However, I couldn't see any difference in the handrails between these two. There were extra markings at the nose ends on the newer one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 They'll be back imminently. Just click on the "Notify me" link, pop in your email address and you get an email the second they're back in stock with a link to the page. Simples! Works out at £2.90 for a loco (incl 2 spares too), with std 1st class P&P being £1.19. Have I missed an email, still showing out of stock ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 This was posted last year by 159220 and explains the differences. To understand the differences between Dapol's first and second batch, one has to look at the prototypes and how they evolved. (001)002-005 were constructed before DRS increased the fuel tank specification. 001 is the exception, originally fitted with the smaller tank, seen in its white Vossloh livery, but the increased tank was fitted before delivery to the UK, via Innotrans. The extended tank has now been retrofitted to most, I have only recently noted 003 without the larger tank. 001-015 were delivered in two livery variants. Originally the driver door handle bars and the multiple working step handle bars had one bolt. (More subtlety they also were smooth in finish without grip striations).Subsequently, 008-015 have been fitted with AAR multiple working for the Chiltern Railways contract. The customer (Arriva) requested the handle bars to be removed due to safely concerns over no grip and the single bolt was demonstrated to be susceptible to failure. Until new bars and bolts could be manufactured, 010-015 had then removed. DRS did not alter this, and changed the bars once delivered. There is more detail here I just wont go into. But, fascinating to myself alone.Later batch deliveries 016-025 and 026-034 have had different paint (same colour, different product) and wheel sets alterations, along with internal changes which do not affect the model. 026 upwards, now have black cab air-conditioning units. Another really minor difference, is some locos had additional warning flashes by the nose steps, these only appear on 008, 012, 016, 017 & 018. It should be noted, further modifications to 026 up revolve around the sale of Vossloh to Stadler (removal of Vossloh logo, Stadler works plates and bogie plates). Thus the models, represent this evolution. To most it shall not matter, but if you are like me, you really appreciate the detail Dapol have paid to this evolution. Batch 1 DRS 001 - original single bolt and large tanks DRS 002 - original single bolt and smaller tanks DRS 005 - original single bolt and smaller tanks SR 006 - original single bolt and large tanks SR 007 - original single bolt and large tanks DRS/CR 010 - no aar socket, original single bolt and large tanks - ie before Chiltern service DRS/CR 014 - no aar socket, original single bolt and large tanks - ie before Chiltern service Batch 2 DRS 003 - original single bolt and smaller tanks DRS/CR 008 - aar socket, new three bolt and large tanks SR 006 - new three bolt and large tanks CR 010 - aar socket, new three bolt and large tanks - ie current Chiltern service CR 015 - aar socket, no bolt and large tanks -- ie initial Chiltern service Model in terms of prototype modification timeline DRS 002/003/005 (1st and 2nd batch) - 003 is an interesting one, as still with small tank, but now with three bolts. Thus, is this a current representation to model, or as introduced? Depends how much the 3 bolts bother you.... DRS 001 (1st Batch) CR 010/014 (1st Batch) CR 015 (2nd Batch) SR 006/007 (1st Batch) DRS 008 (2nd Batch) - current SR 006 (2nd Batch) - current CR 010 (2nd Batch) - current Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railtec-models Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Have I missed an email, still showing out of stock ? They've just gone back in stock and automated emails will be finding their way through the ether as I type. Link here if it helps others: http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=2672 Thanks, Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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