Tricky Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) I like it, and it is no bad thing that I am still moved to ask whether Those Feet in Ancient Times ... The boat is a particularly brilliant modelling feat. Thanks Edwardian. Glad you agree. Some sense of industry is entirely appropriate, it's not your bucolic terminus for sure! Edited October 24, 2017 by Tricky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 Here you go... 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted October 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2017 Absolutely beautiful!! I have shown the misses and even she is impressed with what you have done!! I can't wait to see this completed, it is going to be such an atmospheric layout!! Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Here you go... IMG_4905.JPGIMG_4906.JPGIMG_4907.JPG Very clever and spot on. In terms of the area taken up by the structures painted on the backscene, which suggest where the horizon might be, and the muted colouring, which suggests distance, I would say that the backscene shows just the right amount to create depth and to suggest surrounding industry without dominating or distracting from the modelled scene. Easier said than done, I suspect, so well done! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 From what I can make out from old maps, the Midland warehouse in the back left of this photo appears to be part of the same group of buildings as the Avonside Paper Mill. Would anyone know if this is actually correct? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundy Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Do you have a date for the photo? I can't argue with the large letters on the top of the building - but the 25" OS map for the early 1900s shows the "Avonside goods warehouse" as being off to the right of the photo, actually on the far side of the approach lines to Temple Meads. The eastern wing of the building shown as the paper mill (which the photos shows with Midland lettering), does not appear on the map to have any railway access, which you might expect. I had not previously spotted on the top edge of the map the lettering "Avonside Engine Works" - apparently just off the page at the to. of the spur from the paper mill. Best wishes Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 Eric, I believe the photo to date from 1898. I agree it is odd that the warehouse doesn't appear to have direct rail access although it's close. As far as I can tell the Midland warehouse has to be the building attached to the paper mill. It's still odd there is no reference to it being Midland on the map. In other photos I've seen a complex of Midland buildings on allegedly Jacob Street and from the adjoining map to the one you show could be on the southern side. In the photos there are what looks like ramps and again no rail access. They possibly look like stables but not sure. Any ideas...?! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundy Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I thought that I had seen those photos somewhere before. They appear in "Charity on Camera in Edwardian Bristol", with the subtitle "a photographic survey of the city properties of the Bristol Municipal Charities (BMC), 1906". The book is an absolute treasure trove of images of squalid, down at heel properties, in which the charities seem to have specialised! The caption for your upper photo reads "Jacob street, Midland Railway Co stables. These premises ran from the south side of Jacob street at its eastern (Trinity Hospital) end to Unity Street, and were just to the west of (i.e. just behind) the site offered for let in photo 47, and a very short distance up Midland Road from the Midland Railway Co's goods terminus, where no doubt the horses would have been employed, both for carting and shunting." The lower picture is captioned Jacob street, Midland Railway Co stables. 'Stables and yard in the occupation of the Company (the Midland Railway Co); warehouse, office, foundry engineer's shop, storehouse and stable, in the occupation of their sub-tenants; with the entrances from Unity Street' so states the BMC survey of the time. Note the wooden 'creeps' to convey the horses to the stalls on the upper floor. If I have followed the directions in the captions correctly on this map, it looks as though the stables stood just across Midland Road from St Philips passenger station. They are therefore convenient for the main goods shed and yard, but some distance from the wharf, which is at the end of the branch line labelled "MR coal branch". I hope that this helps. Best wishes Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) Those descriptions are very helpful indeed. I think I had identified the buildings as the L shaped arrangement between Jacob Street and Union Street, but hadn't realised the proximity to St Philip's. The ramps make sense now as accsss to an upper level. Then of course further west is the Midland Wharf, again with no rail access. I must say I have found a new enjoyment in researching the Midland in Bristol - not directly relevant to this project but it helps tremendously to be able soak up the atmosphere; hopefully some of that prototype atmosphere will find its way into my cameo version of it. The more you delve, the more you find! Personally I find that process very satisfying. Edited November 14, 2017 by Tricky 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted October 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) From what I can make out from old maps, the Midland warehouse in the back left of this photo appears to be part of the same group of buildings as the Avonside Paper Mill. Would anyone know if this is actually correct?IMG_4959.JPG I think I'm right in saying that that whole group of buildings was once the Avonside Engine Co, and when Avonside moved to a new site, part of the old premises became a paper mill and the rest was taken over by the Midland Railway. Part was demolished and the site occupied by sidings. Although I've posted it before, I think this might be an appropriate occasion for me to show my own picture of Avonside Wharf in 1972: D2121 at Avonside Wharf, 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr I think the building beyond the yard is the former Midland offices seen from behind. [Edit] A brilliant resource for exploring the development of Bristol is Know Your Place http://www.kypwest.org.uk/ and click on Bristol. Find the Base Maps menu and select a main map and comparison map from various eras. Compare the 25 inch maps of 1844-1888 with those of 1894-1903, and you will see how the area changed. Edited October 28, 2017 by Andy Kirkham 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 This is the wharf I referred to above. I also should have said further west, not east... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 Almost certainly this question will have been asked and answered elsewhere, in which came please excuse me but I can't find the answer. The question is, with O-MF and C and L turnouts in a bag, I assume I will have to unsolder the wing rails from the crossing and re-solder to 1.5mm? Is there an easy way of going about this??!! Thanks all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold wenlock Posted October 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2017 Almost certainly this question will have been asked and answered elsewhere, in which came please excuse me but I can't find the answer. The question is, with O-MF and C and L turnouts in a bag, I assume I will have to unsolder the wing rails from the crossing and re-solder to 1.5mm? Is there an easy way of going about this??!! Thanks all. Hi Richard, yes I’m afraid unsoldering the wing rails is exactly what you have to do! Resoldering them isn’t as bad as it sounds as long as you have the appropriate jigs. I used ones supplied by debs on the forum and they held the rail in position nicely. I used scrap etched brass kit fret to provide strips under the rail to hold everything together with a touch of solder. I hope this helps! Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Well dear readers, my plans for resoldering the crossings have been drastically put on hold having been blue-lighted to hospital last night. Turns out I have a very inflamed gall bladder and a nice collection of gallstones. Currently being pumped full of morphine, paracetamol, antibiotics, saline and various other medicinal cocktails. Even though it hurts when I laugh or even move, a joke or two wouldn't go amiss. Thanks you lovely people. X Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Well dear readers, my plans for resoldering the crossings have been drastically put on hold having been blue-lighted to hospital last night. Turns out I have a very inflamed gall bladder and a nice collection of gallstones. Currently being pumped full of morphine, paracetamol, antibiotics, saline and various other medicinal cocktails. Even though it hurts when I laugh or even move, a joke or two wouldn't go amiss. Thanks you lovely people. X Hi Richard, Sorry to hear about your illness and trust you are sorted quickly. As an aside, maybe when the stones have been removed you can ask to keep them and crush 'em up for ballasting the track ! Take care and hope for a quick recovery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold wenlock Posted October 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2017 Get well soon! The perfect opportunity for planning another couple of layouts! Best wishes Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Hi Richard, Sorry to hear about your illness and trust you are sorted quickly. As an aside, maybe when the stones have been removed you can ask to keep them and crush 'em up for ballasting the track ! Take care and hope for a quick recovery. Thanks Dave, I like that idea, truly would be putting everything I've got into it.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Thanks Dave, I like that idea, truly would be putting everything I've got into it.... Sorry. Wrong name, blame the morphine... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Get well soon! The perfect opportunity for planning another couple of layouts! Best wishes Dave Hmm, I might get a reputation for starting but not finishing...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tove Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Hmm, I might get a reputation for starting but not finishing...! Join the club Richard....i`m already there..!! Get well soon, Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted October 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2017 Well dear readers, my plans for resoldering the crossings have been drastically put on hold having been blue-lighted to hospital last night. Turns out I have a very inflamed gall bladder and a nice collection of gallstones. Currently being pumped full of morphine, paracetamol, antibiotics, saline and various other medicinal cocktails. Even though it hurts when I laugh or even move, a joke or two wouldn't go amiss. Thanks you lovely people. X Sorry to hear that Richard, hope you are better soon. Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2017 Well dear readers, my plans for resoldering the crossings have been drastically put on hold having been blue-lighted to hospital last night. Turns out I have a very inflamed gall bladder and a nice collection of gallstones. Currently being pumped full of morphine, paracetamol, antibiotics, saline and various other medicinal cocktails. Even though it hurts when I laugh or even move, a joke or two wouldn't go amiss. Thanks you lovely people. X Goodness me Richard. On a positive, as Wenlock suggests, an opportunity to plot and scheme for the next few projects without distraction.......apart from the bed baths of course. Every cloud has a silver lining...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 Goodness me Richard. On a positive, as Wenlock suggests, an opportunity to plot and scheme for the next few projects without distraction.......apart from the bed baths of course. Every cloud has a silver lining...... Rob, Unfortunately anything of that nature is well beyond me at the moment... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted November 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2017 Get well soon Richard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Sorry to hear of your misfortunes, get well soon Richard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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