LNER4479 Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Barry Ten said: My Lady Godiva (much bashed-out Hornby body, Comet chassis and tender), the latter should be rivetted I think. Very nice! Those green lamps on top of the chimney and the cab are an interesting detail. I can't find those in my Millholme kit ... (already searching for hat and coat ...) 1 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted June 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2021 Well the S&D did have its own lamp codes. 3 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 G'Day Folks Lady Godiva, the 'De-Steamlined ' one....................! manna 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2021 6 hours ago, manna said: G'Day Folks Lady Godiva, the 'De-Steamlined ' one....................! manna with the big buffers. Mike. 2 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted June 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 3, 2021 When I were but a spotty tot, Barrow Road had at least 3 Unbuilt Pats. On one overnight Plymouth Newcastle Mail that my family used to catch to get to Newcastle (and then by bus to Consett) to visit Grandparents, I saw three at Brizzle, all lined up nicely thanks, by a lovely Signal Box, for spotty spotters like me. Must have been the middle of the night as the Mail took about 12 hours and seemed to wait at Brizzle for bloomin ages (thank goodness). I tell you this as unmodified Pats were like the ultimate spot for oiks from Devon. Must have gone past Barrow Road but; didn't know what was on the front by then and didn't rally know where that shed was. Doh! None had the additional speciality Lamps. Ar$£ 4 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted June 5, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2021 (edited) Meanwhile, there's been another loco job going along in the background. Remember this? From last year's 'sort out' of Stanier 4-6-0s. To introduce some Jubilee variety and try to depict as many of the 'typical' combinations as possible, I decided to do a Stanier 4,000 gallon welded tender and a Fowler 3500 gallon flush rivetted tender. The Stanier welded body above is from a Hornby 8F, to be married to a old mainline chassis; The Fowler body is from an old Airfix 4F, again to be paired with an old mainline chassis. Why not just use the Hornby chassis, I hear you ask? Well, its chassis has pick-ups and is designed to couple up to the Hornby loco chassis so I'd rather leave that alone - somewhere, one day on the layout, there'll be an 8F with a rivetted tender body ... Meanwhile, a bit of plasticard-ing has been used to create a bit of body-to-chassis attachmentness. To add to the fun, the Mainline tender body has the steps, whereas the Hornby tender chassis has the steps. So put the other combination together - no steps! So here are the steps cut from the Mainline body being reattached to the chassis. It's a small improvement actually as the Mainline tender body steps are set too far out. Brakes! The old Mainline 4,000 gallon tender had no brakes at all; the 3,500 gallon one has them moulded as part of the tender frames and thus (also) too far out. (it's all too 'far out', man ...) Here's the Fowler tender starting to look a bit more betterer. I've added the 'skirt' around the bottom (10 thou plasticard) and pared away the moulded handrails, to be replaced by proper ones. Also cut away the moulded coal load and added a more realistic tender innards. (actually I think this was before I sorted the brakes) The Stanier tender with some primer thrown at it. It's a bit of a cheat actually - note the rivetted tender back! But then you don't see tender backs so much when it's coupled to a train. And now both with some 'cowpat' green applied - actually Halfords Brooklands green, reckoned to be a pretty good match for BR green (some say that's not the same as Brunswick Green or at least it shouldn't be called so) Where once there was no brakes ... But there's a problem (or two). When paired up to the loco, Halfords Brooklands green certainly isn't the same green as used by Bachmann. Of greater note (I think?) is the radically different shade of lining colour used (I've lined the tender with HMRS lining transfers). Also, that panel on the cab side just doesn't look right - bottom left corner lining corner isn't right-angled enough. Nothing for it ... Meanwhile, the Fowler tender is looking good and some detailed gluing and soldering of spare bits of etch is adding to the appearance. I give you Carlisle Kingmoor's long time resident No.45713 'Renown'. (long firebox Jubilee) This is my original Mainline 45691 'Orion' from circa 1980! But I didn't know about the details of tenders in those days so she's never had the right tender until now. Also, being a ScR loco, she carried the larger cabside numerals, so I've added those as well. It could also do with a cabside bracket for the tablet catcher (for when it goes to Stranraer). The green contrast isn't so bad on the older model; even so, the tender will get a waft of weathering. And here's t'other one - Holbeck's equally long time resident 45573 'Newfoundland' (short firebox Jubilee). The green contrast doesn't look too bad from this angle. The lining contrast still jars a bit. More weathering required! Just had to do this: 'Newfoundland heads the Waverley' (for those who know their Peter Handford 'Argo Transacord' records). Two more Jubilees ready for the road. Most excellent. Edited June 5, 2021 by LNER4479 37 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted June 29, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2021 Meanwhile, back at the Patriot. I'm finding it hard to resist although I should really be getting on with other stuff! So I 'treated myself' to a bit of work on it over the weekend ... Me being me, I can't help tinkering. Or should that be 'trying to get it right'? Anyhow, I believe in slidebars having something to grab on to at the non-cylinder end. And I did happen to have the pattern from the recent Royal Scot rebuild. Also, the w/m cast lump for the cylinders didn't seem to have them in the right position so I've filed the rear faces according (or maybe I soldered it in the wrong way round?). And the cylinder castings have a fancifully long front valve chest compared to drawings and pictures of Patriots so that's been lopped off. Now with a start on assembly. I've added just the rear cylinder parts at this stage so as to concentrate on their alignment with respect to the motion bracket... ... like so. An alignment check with the axle hole for the middle axle has all this pretty much spot on. Not only satisfying but encouraging for a free running and convincing-looking model. Cylinders now fully assembled and just nestling nicely under the (solid) running plate. The all important height check. The footplate is shown at 6' 3" on one of the drawings. I reckon that's 25mm in our money. So maybe a twitch low - although the light is catching the edge of the casting so it's probably more like 24.75mm. Loco must be running on worn tyres ... (those are 26mm drivers in actual fact). Lined up against the RTR version. I know you shouldn't model a model but a modicum of reassurance? Having fun researching WCML Patriots, aided and abetted by the recent Jennison RCTS tome which Barry O has kindly lent. 45518 'Bradshaw' is looking like a possibility, in an interesting early BR livery ... 19 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, LNER4479 said: The all important height check. The footplate is shown at 6' 3" on one of the drawings. I reckon that's 25mm in our money. So maybe a twitch low - although the light is catching the edge of the casting so it's probably more like 24.75mm. Loco must be running on worn tyres ... (those are 26mm drivers in actual fact). At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious, have you allowed for the thickness of that brass strip or whatever it is the ruler is resting on? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious, have you allowed for the thickness of that brass strip or whatever it is the ruler is resting on? Ah, that's my clever(?) height checker. The piece of brass that the rule is resting on is itself soldered to the underneath of the separate brass strip that's actually resting on the rails. So it's a true datum (provided that the main strip of brass is resting on both rails). If that's not clear, I'll take a picture ... 6 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted August 21, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) Whilst a modicum of work continues in the background (although Grantham is priority for receiving some much deserved attention at the moment) and at the risk of shameless self-promotion (not something I'm generally very comfortable with), I thought I'd just drop this in here (as it might suit a LMR 1950s/1960s audience better than a LNER 1930s one?) As one or two might be aware, I have been involved in a book project and, more than two years after first starting out, the thing has finally been published (latter stages somewhat delayed by Covid). Featuring the colour photographs of my late stepfather, I have written the captions and other writings to tell the tale of Britain’s railway steam age, from its ‘Indian Summer’ of the late 1950s, through its sad decline in the 1960s and subsequent rebirth in the early 1970s preservation era. Although the majority of pictures are of London Midland Region subjects (my stepfather lived in the Stockport, Manchester area), he travelled widely (some trips must have been great adventures in the pre-motorway age!) and the book includes pictures from other areas of the country, such as the south west, Welsh borders, north east and Scotland, so hopefully there is something for everyone. A few (naughty!) examples to perhaps whet your appetite - and have a quick 'guess the location' competition? (please note that these are my reference images only, hence low-res. For the book, all images have been hi-res scanned and digitally cleaned up as required. Without exception, all images used in the book are the ones that have 'scrubbed up' well from the original colour slides. One or two - sadly- had to be rejected, even though the subject matter was of interest) If you feel so moved(!), the best price I can find at the moment – ONLY AVAILABLE TODAY/TOMORROW (so it appears) – is at: https://strathwood.co.uk/products/british-steam-in-colour-1957-1975-a-personal-journey-through-the-colour-slide-collection-of-norman-harrop If you’re already reading this on Monday(!) then no worries, you can still get a good deal at good ‘ol WHSmiths! https://www.whsmith.co.uk/products/british-steam-in-colour-1957-to-1975-a-personal-journey-the-colour-slide-collection-of-norman-harrop/graham-nicholas/paperback/9781857945850.html Despite what some of the ads say, I can assure you that it IS a hardback book, printed on decent quality, gloss paper. the colour rendition is generally pretty faithful to the originals so I'm quite pleased / relieved(!) about that. Hope that's of interest. A modelling update to follow before too long (promise!) Edited August 21, 2021 by LNER4479 16 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted August 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, LNER4479 said: Whilst a modicum of work continues in the background (although Grantham is priority for receiving some much deserved attention at the moment) and at the risk of shameless self-promotion (not something I'm generally very comfortable with), I thought I'd just drop this in here (as it might suit a LMR 1950s/1960s audience better than a LNER 1930s one?) As one or two might be aware, I have been involved in a book project and, more than two years after first starting out, the thing has finally been published (latter stages somewhat delayed by Covid). Featuring the colour photographs of my late stepfather, I have written the captions and other writings to tell the tale of Britain’s railway steam age, from its ‘Indian Summer’ of the late 1950s, through its sad decline in the 1960s and subsequent rebirth in the early 1970s preservation era. Although the majority of pictures are of London Midland Region subjects (my stepfather lived in the Stockport, Manchester area), he travelled widely (some trips must have been great adventures in the pre-motorway age!) and the book includes pictures from other areas of the country, such as the south west, Welsh borders, north east and Scotland, so hopefully there is something for everyone. A few (naughty!) examples to perhaps whet your appetite - and have a quick 'guess the location' competition? (please note that these are my reference images only, hence low-res. For the book, all images have been hi-res scanned and digitally cleaned up as required. Without exception, all images used in the book are the ones that have 'scrubbed up' well from the original colour slides. One or two - sadly- had to be rejected, even though the subject matter was of interest) If you feel so moved(!), the best price I can find at the moment – ONLY AVAILABLE TODAY/TOMORROW (so it appears) – is at: https://strathwood.co.uk/products/british-steam-in-colour-1957-1975-a-personal-journey-through-the-colour-slide-collection-of-norman-harrop If you’re already reading this on Monday(!) then no worries, you can still get a good deal at good ‘ol WHSmiths! https://www.whsmith.co.uk/products/british-steam-in-colour-1957-to-1975-a-personal-journey-the-colour-slide-collection-of-norman-harrop/graham-nicholas/paperback/9781857945850.html Despite that some of the ads say, I can assure you that it IS a hardback book, printed on decent quality, gloss paper. the colour rendition is generally pretty faithful to the originals so I'm quite pleased / relieved(!) about that. Hope that's of interest. A modelling update to follow before too long (promise!) Quick word about this Book. I have had a copy for a week and it is beautifully produced and presented with quite an unusual and very attractive page format; I like it a lot. No idea who the bloke is that did the written stuff, but by jove he knows his stuff, has a SOH and a great way with captions and must be infatuated with Carlisle as there are quite a few located in that neck of the woods. Thoroughly recommended, a great read and, of course, the photo's are absolutely filled with detail and the colour reproduction is first class. Phil Graham, when am I getting that bribe? Edited August 21, 2021 by Mallard60022 2 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 21, 2021 56 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: Quick word about this Book. I have had a copy for a week and it is beautifully produced and presented with quite an unusual and very attractive page format; I like it a lot. No idea who the bloke is that did the written stuff, but by jove he knows his stuff, has a SOH and a great way with captions and must be infatuated with Carlisle as there are quite a few located in that neck of the woods. Thoroughly recommended, a great read and, of course, the photo's are absolutely filled with detail and the colour reproduction is first class. Phil Graham, when am I getting that bribe? 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mallard60022 said: Quick word about this Book.... I like it a lot. Phil Graham, when am I getting that bribe? Thanks Duckie - your 10 shilling note is on its way Edited August 21, 2021 by LNER4479 1 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted August 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 hours ago, LNER4479 said: Thanks Duckie - your 10 shilling note is on it's way I can sell you a real one if you want, but they’re quite rare these days so command a premium. :-) Paul. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted August 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2021 19 hours ago, LNER4479 said: Whilst a modicum of work continues in the background (although Grantham is priority for receiving some much deserved attention at the moment) and at the risk of shameless self-promotion (not something I'm generally very comfortable with), I thought I'd just drop this in here (as it might suit a LMR 1950s/1960s audience better than a LNER 1930s one?) As one or two might be aware, I have been involved in a book project and, more than two years after first starting out, the thing has finally been published (latter stages somewhat delayed by Covid). Featuring the colour photographs of my late stepfather, I have written the captions and other writings to tell the tale of Britain’s railway steam age, from its ‘Indian Summer’ of the late 1950s, through its sad decline in the 1960s and subsequent rebirth in the early 1970s preservation era. Although the majority of pictures are of London Midland Region subjects (my stepfather lived in the Stockport, Manchester area), he travelled widely (some trips must have been great adventures in the pre-motorway age!) and the book includes pictures from other areas of the country, such as the south west, Welsh borders, north east and Scotland, so hopefully there is something for everyone. A few (naughty!) examples to perhaps whet your appetite - and have a quick 'guess the location' competition? (please note that these are my reference images only, hence low-res. For the book, all images have been hi-res scanned and digitally cleaned up as required. Without exception, all images used in the book are the ones that have 'scrubbed up' well from the original colour slides. One or two - sadly- had to be rejected, even though the subject matter was of interest) If you feel so moved(!), the best price I can find at the moment – ONLY AVAILABLE TODAY/TOMORROW (so it appears) – is at: https://strathwood.co.uk/products/british-steam-in-colour-1957-1975-a-personal-journey-through-the-colour-slide-collection-of-norman-harrop If you’re already reading this on Monday(!) then no worries, you can still get a good deal at good ‘ol WHSmiths! https://www.whsmith.co.uk/products/british-steam-in-colour-1957-to-1975-a-personal-journey-the-colour-slide-collection-of-norman-harrop/graham-nicholas/paperback/9781857945850.html Despite what some of the ads say, I can assure you that it IS a hardback book, printed on decent quality, gloss paper. the colour rendition is generally pretty faithful to the originals so I'm quite pleased / relieved(!) about that. Hope that's of interest. A modelling update to follow before too long (promise!) Duly ordered!! Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2021 15 hours ago, 5BarVT said: I can sell you a real one if you want, but they’re quite rare these days so command a premium. :-) Paul. If he fancies buying himself a loaf of bread I have 200,000 Reichsbank note lying around somewhere 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbridge Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 42 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: If he fancies buying himself a loaf of bread I have 200,000 Reichsbank note lying around somewhere As a teen I was into stamp collecting for a short time. I was amazed to come across a 1,000,000 Mark postage stamp. I soon found out the history and just how little It actually represented at the time it was issued. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted August 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 22, 2021 On 21/08/2021 at 13:39, LNER4479 said: If you feel so moved(!), the best price I can find at the moment Ordered just placed! Kind regards, Richard B 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2750Papyrus Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Just ordered from Strathwood with 25% discount. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted August 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, 2750Papyrus said: Just ordered from Strathwood with 25% discount. Me too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CKPR Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 On 21/08/2021 at 16:29, Mallard60022 said: infatuated with Carlisle You've sold it to me with those three words. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium Chas Levin Posted August 25, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) On 21/08/2021 at 13:39, LNER4479 said: Whilst a modicum of work continues in the background (although Grantham is priority for receiving some much deserved attention at the moment) and at the risk of shameless self-promotion (not something I'm generally very comfortable with), I thought I'd just drop this in here (as it might suit a LMR 1950s/1960s audience better than a LNER 1930s one?) As one or two might be aware, I have been involved in a book project and, more than two years after first starting out, the thing has finally been published (latter stages somewhat delayed by Covid). Featuring the colour photographs of my late stepfather, I have written the captions and other writings to tell the tale of Britain’s railway steam age, from its ‘Indian Summer’ of the late 1950s, through its sad decline in the 1960s and subsequent rebirth in the early 1970s preservation era. Although the majority of pictures are of London Midland Region subjects (my stepfather lived in the Stockport, Manchester area), he travelled widely (some trips must have been great adventures in the pre-motorway age!) and the book includes pictures from other areas of the country, such as the south west, Welsh borders, north east and Scotland, so hopefully there is something for everyone. A few (naughty!) examples to perhaps whet your appetite - and have a quick 'guess the location' competition? (please note that these are my reference images only, hence low-res. For the book, all images have been hi-res scanned and digitally cleaned up as required. Without exception, all images used in the book are the ones that have 'scrubbed up' well from the original colour slides. One or two - sadly- had to be rejected, even though the subject matter was of interest) If you feel so moved(!), the best price I can find at the moment – ONLY AVAILABLE TODAY/TOMORROW (so it appears) – is at: https://strathwood.co.uk/products/british-steam-in-colour-1957-1975-a-personal-journey-through-the-colour-slide-collection-of-norman-harrop If you’re already reading this on Monday(!) then no worries, you can still get a good deal at good ‘ol WHSmiths! https://www.whsmith.co.uk/products/british-steam-in-colour-1957-to-1975-a-personal-journey-the-colour-slide-collection-of-norman-harrop/graham-nicholas/paperback/9781857945850.html Despite what some of the ads say, I can assure you that it IS a hardback book, printed on decent quality, gloss paper. the colour rendition is generally pretty faithful to the originals so I'm quite pleased / relieved(!) about that. Hope that's of interest. A modelling update to follow before too long (promise!) Congratulations Graham, most certainly of interest - samples look lovely, copy ordered . Edited August 25, 2021 by Chas Levin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Top LH photo is Wigan North Western, train heading south. Underneath that Bath Green Park ? and bottom left Carlisle. Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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