Craigw Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, 1466 said: Wouldn’t it be great if , say Ultrascale , did a replacement gear set to lower the ratio to around 35 to 1 ? They probably could. How many people would be prepared to dismantle the chassis, remove a wheel and gear from the axle then replace and quarter said driving wheel? I would suggest that anyone prepared to go to those lengths is going to fit a new Brassmasters easichas or something similar. regards, Craig W 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1466 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Personally , I am committed to the upcoming Brassmasters easichassis which will improve an already very good model . However , it won’t by itself address the issue of the gearing . I’ve only run my mogul on rollers so far in 00 and it performs nicely but the real test will be once it is converted to EM and runs on the layout . I hope it will cope with 6 coaches or up to 20 goods wagons . As a cross country runner it will not need super slow running for shunting but slow , steady grunt . 18 to 1 may be fine but instinctively I feel 35 to 1 would be better . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted January 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2021 12 hours ago, 1466 said: I’ve only run my mogul on rollers so far in 00 and it performs nicely but the real test will be once it is converted to EM and runs on the layout . I hope it will cope with 6 coaches or up to 20 goods wagons That should be an issue as long as it's not a lemon. Mine pulled 20 wagons with ease. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2021 On 26/01/2021 at 22:27, melmerby said: Doesn't the Mogul? If not that's another inexcusable omission. Getting sufficient mass with a large tank loco is easy, less so with a tender engine, so more metal is desirable. Was meaning compared to the Hornby prairie. Yes the Dapol Mogul does as well I believe. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallpaul69 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Thought I would brighten folks day by reporting that my recently arrived Sound Fitted Black BR 43xx works a treat on my 12ft end to end layout! The only query is that the "chuff" rate appears a little low. I must try to position myself so that I can see the points in the wheels' rotation that a "chuff" sounds, and compare it with where in the wheels' rotation the next "chuff" appears. Visually it is stunning, but it is going to be very hard to take the weathering materials to this beauty. Best regards Paul 3 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteN92 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Tallpaul69 said: Thought I would brighten folks day by reporting that my recently arrived Sound Fitted Black BR 43xx works a treat on my 12ft end to end layout! The only query is that the "chuff" rate appears a little low. I must try to position myself so that I can see the points in the wheels' rotation that a "chuff" sounds, and compare it with where in the wheels' rotation the next "chuff" appears. Visually it is stunning, but it is going to be very hard to take the weathering materials to this beauty. Best regards Paul Hi Paul where did you get your sound fitted version from ? Cheers Pete 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallpaul69 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 11 hours ago, PeteN92 said: Hi Paul where did you get your sound fitted version from ? Cheers Pete Hi Pete, It came from AGR in Leighton Buzzard, but the sound was fitted by them. I think the Dapol sound fitted versions are only just starting to be sent out by Dapol? Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted February 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2021 Got my second one today. DC version runs well both ways straight out of the box. Only problem was that the Carpet Fairy tried to claim the front buffer which was loose in the box. I'm getting too quick for her these days, plenty of practice from kit building. Next job to get the roundy connected to do a full running in and load test. 3 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15nac Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 I see decorated pictures of the prairie are out today. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted February 5, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) https://www.Dapol.co.uk/OO-Gauge-GWR-2-6-2-Large-Prairie-Update "Improved Firebox glow"... Translation: Firebox glow might work properly this time. Edited February 5, 2021 by Harlequin 2 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted February 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Harlequin said: https://www.Dapol.co.uk/OO-Gauge-GWR-2-6-2-Large-Prairie-Update "Improved Firebox glow"... Translation: Firebox glow might work this time. Also "improved 30:1 gear ratio" 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteremy Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 And different slidebars? If all these things are true then that is a pretty fast response to the feedback on the mogul. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bigcheeseplant Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) I think there is something not right about that chimney looks too narrow with a slight taper. Edited February 5, 2021 by David Bigcheeseplant 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 The motion looks very odd to me; as if it’s either plastic or painted, not to mention the black pin or screw fixing the rods to the wheels. On the other hand, if the safety valve bonnet is plated as it appears to be, that’s a big plus. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattA Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 That's a seriously wonky smokebox numberplate... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamingWales Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Harlequin said: https://www.Dapol.co.uk/OO-Gauge-GWR-2-6-2-Large-Prairie-Update "Improved Firebox glow"... Translation: Firebox glow might work properly this time. These look decent and nice to see Dapol have learnt quickly from the Mogul. Especially like the removable cab so you can actually see the cab details. Kudos to Dapol on that one. Will certainly buy one of funds allow 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattA Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) I must admit I'm slightly concerned about the running plate. Either I'm subject to optical illusions, or it looks like it doesn't quite align with the bottom of the side tanks (and has a very mild curve near the front). That being said, it's not as blatant as some of Hornby's efforts in the past decade (particularly the 42xx/5205s with curved frames). Edited February 5, 2021 by MattA 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Could just be a fit issue with the sample, they aren't full production quality when livery samples are produced as they are mainly to check the livery application. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 I know 5190 was in lined black for a while, but is there a pic in that state with the Gill Sans British Railways lettering? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1466 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 hours ago, spamcan61 said: Also "improved 30:1 gear ratio" Assuming there is commonality in the mechanicals of the mogul and prairie, an improved 30 to 1 gear ratio would be welcome . Especially if the gear with a one axle of quartered wheels were to be available as a retro fit . In other words , drop out the old and substitute one axle with new 30 to 1 for a mogul . Different wheel size for prairie ? Full marks to Dapol for listening and learning . Implications for the Manor but I’ve already preordered an Accurascale one . More pain in the wallet! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Dreadful chimney. Here's what it should look like. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattA Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Just now, Miss Prism said: Dreadful chimney. Here's what it should look like. Now that you've pointed it out, it is obvious that Dapol's interpretation of the chimney is spectacularly tall and/or slim in comparison. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Harlequin said: https://www.Dapol.co.uk/OO-Gauge-GWR-2-6-2-Large-Prairie-Update There's something that doesn't look right to me - have those pictures been squashed longitudinally? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenL Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Miss Prism said: There's something that doesn't look right to me - have those pictures been squashed longitudinally? I think you might be on to something there Miss Prism - something indeed does not look right. What do you make of the safety valve covers - they in particular don't look quite right to me, maybe a lack of curvature on the sides? They've got the route disc in the wrong place on 5150 and I believe it should have a tall safety valve cover - at least I understand she was built with one. I really want Dapol to get this right as I need a large prairie with the livery and detail combination 5150 should have! The improvements suggested over the Mogul are at least encouraging and suggest a listening mindset. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, BenL said: What do you make of the safety valve covers - they in particular don't look quite right to me, maybe a lack of curvature on the sides? They're not too bad in my view, and the same as on the Mogul. There are two inserts on the Dapol tool, one for the tall safety valve and another for the short cover. These drawings do lack a bit of side curvature, which was very subtle on the originals, and there was some variation in the originals, all being hand spun of course. Don't expect the Dapol EPs to have the correct match of mechanical and cosmetic detail at this stage. 5190 was outshopped with a short safety valve cover (in 1934). Edited February 5, 2021 by Miss Prism 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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