RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, beast66606 said: It's recovered and gone to Norwich as 5 P00 1Z99 has recessed in the low level sidings at Norwich. 755407 was the unit concerned. It failed (but was restarted) at Cromer - interestingly 37800 was the rescue loco, which is not permitted North of Walsham, so a long tow rope was going to be needed for that recovery. Edited February 14, 2020 by beast66606 tie po 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 4 hours ago, phil-b259 said: More Only because the Romans numerical system had no way of recording zero! Each day between 1 and 365 still fell into year zero, day 366 being the first day of year one.... ....There was also technically a day zero - it doesn’t become day one until 24 hours have elapsed... ... and an hour zero... ... etc... The concept of zero as a valid number is one of the many concepts invented by Islamic scholars that have proved very useful today (particularly with the invention of computing) and rather disprove notions that said religion is entirely ‘backward’ as it were. All slightly pointless really, as we are measuring time from the birth of someone whose birth date we don't really know! And in year 0, years had 355 (?) days. A year didn't become 365 days until well after the Romans. So it's all rather arbitrary really, but hey, who cares, it's an excuse for a party. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, beast66606 said: 755407 was the unit concerned. It failed (but was restarted) at Cromer - interestingly 37800 was the rescue loco, which is not permitted North of Walsham, so a long tow rope was going to be needed for that recovery. Thanks very much for the info. Out of interest was 37611 the failed 37 and thus 37800 was sent as 1Z99? I wonder why 37800 wasn't permitted to travel further than Walsham? Thanks in advance. Kind Regards, Danny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggie in the east Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, DRS Crewe On A Mission said: Thanks very much for the info. Out of interest was 37611 the failed 37 and thus 37800 was sent as 1Z99? I wonder why 37800 wasn't permitted to travel further than Walsham? Thanks in advance. Kind Regards, Danny. I assumed the 37 heading out of colchester was 37611 as that's been the one stabled for the duration so far and heard that 37800 was the failed one but it was passing us at quick speed and didnt clock the number so the statement above is probably right. I think it's due to axle weights but not sure. Thanks 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2020 37's of the sub classes 0/3/4/5 and 6 are allowed all the way, 37's of the sub classes 7 and 9 are not allowed past Walsham. Going off wiki, the 0/3/4/5/6 are 107T, giving something like a 17.8T axle weight, the 7/9's are ballasted to 122T giving a 20.3T axle load..... (The axle loads are guesses, the axles could actually have unbalanced weights... So is 37800 a 7 or a 9? Andy G 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, uax6 said: So is 37800 a 7 or a 9? 37/7 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 37/9 were the re-engined ones (trial for the never built 38?), or has the sub class been reused since then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP82 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, Zomboid said: 37/9 were the re-engined ones (trial for the never built 38?), or has the sub class been reused since then? Dunno about the subclass been reused but yes the engines were trialed for the proposed the class 38. I hear the straight 6 Mirrlees Blackstone in 37901-904 is identical to the 8 cylinder prime mover in the class 60s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 OHLE problems on Thursday 13/02 were causing service issues, but with the new delivery being diesel hauled it managed to get passed the problem area (just North of Colchester) This delivery leaves 1 x 745 (110) and 1 x 755 (403) still to arrive in the UK. 13 February 2020 Great Moulton 66002 and 745109 on 5Q99, 03:43, Ripple Lane Exch Sdgs - Norwich C.PT. T.&R.S.M.D (08:23) - new unit delivery 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 Great Moulton 13 February 2020 755406 on 5Q61, 08:04, Norwich C.PT. T.&R.S.M.D - Ipswich Down And Up Goods (08:52) and 755333 on 5P08, 09:34, Ipswich - Norwich C.PT. T.&R.S.M.D (10:15) - ECS 755406 must be close to entering service as it's been out testing a lot recently. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 Great Moulton 14 February 2020 755423 on 5P99, 09:05, Norwich C.PT. T.&R.S.M.D - Diss (09:26) - unit under test, on diesel 755327 on 5Y80, 10:33, Norwich C.PT. T.&R.S.M.D - Ipswich H.S. (11:36) - ECS 755406 on 5Q65, 14:13, Norwich C.PT. T.&R.S.M.D - Ipswich Down And Up Goods (14:56) - unit under test 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 Great Moulton 14 February 745007 on 1P18, 10:00, London Liverpool Street - Norwich (11:48) 745010 on 1P33, 11:30, Norwich - London Liverpool Street (13:17) 745009 on 5Q92, 14:11, Colchester - Norwich T.C. (15:46) - vice London Liverpool Street (13:11) 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 I'm not sure if 800 has had the extra weights removed will check next time I'm on it The restrictions north of walsham hasn't stopped WCR and DCR taking stuff like 37/7s and 56s to sheringham on a few occasions Tornado went and was later found out it shouldn't have done 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2020 11 hours ago, Siggie in the east said: I assumed the 37 heading out of colchester was 37611 as that's been the one stabled for the duration so far and heard that 37800 was the failed one but it was passing us at quick speed and didnt clock the number so the statement above is probably right. I think it's due to axle weights but not sure. Thanks Thanks for confirming that. That also explains the need for a 37/6 to be a thunderbird along with a 37/7. At least between a 37/6 and 37/7 they should be able to travel on all of the lines/routes in Anglia. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardw1970 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Interesting seeing the recent photo's of 745's all seem to show running with rear pantograph in use, the Hitachi units passing through York always seem to use the leading pantograph. I know at one time it was thought best to use the rear in the hope that if anything damaged the rear one the front one would have passed the problem area undamaged. The reasoning I was given up here for the opposite was that it is better to use the front one so the driver gets earlier warning of any overhead damage. I can see logic in both methods, just seems a little inconsistent for two modern trains to take the opposite approach to it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 hours ago, russ p said: I'm not sure if 800 has had the extra weights removed will check next time I'm on it The restrictions north of walsham hasn't stopped WCR and DCR taking stuff like 37/7s and 56s to sheringham on a few occasions Tornado went and was later found out it shouldn't have done Been assured by the owner that 800 does still have the weights, apparently it's the only GEC 37/7 left 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggie in the east Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, richardw1970 said: Interesting seeing the recent photo's of 745's all seem to show running with rear pantograph in use, the Hitachi units passing through York always seem to use the leading pantograph. I know at one time it was thought best to use the rear in the hope that if anything damaged the rear one the front one would have passed the problem area undamaged. The reasoning I was given up here for the opposite was that it is better to use the front one so the driver gets earlier warning of any overhead damage. I can see logic in both methods, just seems a little inconsistent for two modern trains to take the opposite approach to it. Everytime I've seem a 745 pass Colchester PSB on the juice it has always used the rear pan, in both directions. I will ask someone in the know probably a driver on the gsm-r) and find out. Thanks 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, russ p said: Been assured by the owner that 800 does still have the weights, apparently it's the only GEC 37/7 left Thank you very much for finding out and posting. It's very interesting that 800 has retained it's weights and is the only one to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 75334 has failed on the way to Norwich, at, or near, CO891 (effectively Trowse home signal) - after a reasonably good week 37800 is back on 1Z99 duty, currently approaching Stowmarket heading for the rescue. Edited February 16, 2020 by beast66606 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2020 I'm supposed to be on afternoon colchester Thunderbird on Wednesday, hope there is something to do rather than sitting about all afternoon and evening 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted February 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2020 I assume the passengers would prefer if you were not needed. Jonathan 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 hours ago, corneliuslundie said: I assume the passengers would prefer if you were not needed. Jonathan Most certainly, but not all; I would be rather pleased (as long as I was not in a hurry) to be on a failed train assisted by a massive 37 ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2020 Now that the Great Yarmouth (via Acle) line is opened the Basils have fallen like flies. Ipswich / Felixstowe services decimated for most of the day. Yarmouths - services cancelled. 37800 heading for Cambridge as 1Z99 to recover a unit. (last week was) so near and yet so far. Looks like Russ will get his wish 1 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted February 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, beast66606 said: Now that the Great Yarmouth (via Acle) line is opened the Basils have fallen like flies. Ipswich / Felixstowe services decimated for most of the day. Yarmouths - services cancelled. 37800 heading for Cambridge as 1Z99 to recover a unit. (last week was) so near and yet so far. Looks like Russ will get his wish Wow, this does sound quite exceptional for new trains. I wonder if the basils are breaking some sort of record for the amount of failings per day for new trains or just overall in general the amount of failings during the introduction of new trains. Not good news for passengers, but undoubtedly Russ will have something to do on Wednesday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggie in the east Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 23 hours ago, beast66606 said: 75334 has failed on the way to Norwich, at, or near, CO891 (effectively Trowse home signal) - after a reasonably good week 37800 is back on 1Z99 duty, currently approaching Stowmarket heading for the rescue. I was the siggie on duty having to clear that up last night..... bloomin Basils! 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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