Popular Post Andrew P Posted June 28, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2020 And the good news is, IT WILL WORK. First I had to add some timber, as the Arc from the pivot was different from the current one. I then had to add the offcut from the Old Fiddle Yard and add some more bits to finish. 21 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Andrew P said: As promised, Boy turned up this morning with all the stuff that's been in storage in his Garage since last October. I need a re think. And that's AFTER some had been put in the cupboards. Andy, The phrase your looking for is 'Oh......' Rich 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 Andy Can I suggest having a micro-switch or similar that cuts power to the layout when the swing part is open to avoid the risk of anything taking a tumble from the open end? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2020 It's almost like you'd planned it. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, Ray H said: Andy Can I suggest having a micro-switch or similar that cuts power to the layout when the swing part is open to avoid the risk of anything taking a tumble from the open end? Is it also just the single screw pivot that holds it whilst between 3 oclock and midnight - an awful lot of expensive toys to lose if that doesn't hold whilst you're swinging. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 34 minutes ago, Ray H said: Andy Can I suggest having a micro-switch or similar that cuts power to the layout when the swing part is open to avoid the risk of anything taking a tumble from the open end? Yes a good idea Ray, I don't know how it can be done, in the meantime there will be stop pegs to drop in under the bridge. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, Stubby47 said: It's almost like you'd planned it. Cheers Stu, It was planned like that many Months ago when we knew we would be having that property, but I though that I might work out to short. As it is now it's had to be reduced from 5ft down to 4ft, so it will still take an 08 and a couple of Wagons at least. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, woodenhead said: Is it also just the single screw pivot that holds it whilst between 3 oclock and midnight - an awful lot of expensive toys to lose if that doesn't hold whilst you're swinging. Yes that single screw is a 3 incher in a bit of 4 x 2, so I hope it holds, I took it all the way in, then backed off half a turn so it's still fairly tight, and has a large frame to rest on when across the door. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 2 hours ago, MarshLane said: Andy, The phrase your looking for is 'Oh......' Rich Want to buy a WHOLE LOAD of OO? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 You will be running soon l wager ?.. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, georgeT said: You will be running soon l wager ?.. Yes, I hope so mate, I need to find a box that has short (about 3 inch) lengths of Track, for the ends of the main board now, and then re lay the fiddle Yard. I still keep looking at that 33 you've just bought and put pics of on your workbench thread. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/55033-georgets-7mm-workbench/page/126/#comments As I said over there, I've been looking for a Scottish 26 to go with my Scottish 37's but now having a MAJOR re think. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Temeraire Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Andrew P said: I've been looking for a Scottish 26 to go with my Scottish 37's but now having a MAJOR re think. Come on Andy, you're down south now! 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Andrew P said: Want to buy a WHOLE LOAD of OO? Hahaha! I would decline in the current time! Taken a major step back from model railways over the past couple of months and had a bit of a penny drop moment as to why I have not been happy with the different projects I have come up with the try over the past two years. So still plodding on with the 7mm Tyne & Wear Metrocar, but otherwise I having a total change of topic on the modelling front, which really seems to have gelled and ticked all the boxes, so we'll see what emerges - I'll post on a thread when things have moved on a bit On a separate note, if anyone reading this is in the market for a Heljan blue DC Class 40 or 45 ... mine are going in the next couple of weeks, so feel free to PM if your interested - both around the £500 mark ... sorry for the deviation Andy. So as I understand it Severn Mills has moved south and we are about to be invaded with Cromptons then . I have got a 33 here that is owned by a mate, I have just put a Zimo chip with Paul Chetter's sound project on it for him, and once the Earl Mountbatten of Burma plates arrive and are attached, it will be heading off to the Weymouth area! They are superb models. Rich Edited June 28, 2020 by MarshLane 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, Temeraire said: Come on Andy, you're down south now! DON'T DO THIS TO ME Ian, haha. Now a Blue weathered 33 like George T has just bought, and yes maybe a NO NO NO. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, MarshLane said: Hahaha! I would decline in the current time! Taken a major step back from model railways over the past couple of months and had a bit of a penny drop moment as to why I have not been happy with the different projects I have come up with the try over the past two years. So still plodding on with the 7mm Tyne & Wear Metrocar, but otherwise I having a total change of topic on the modelling front, which really seems to have gelled and ticked all the boxes, so we'll see what emerges - I'll post on a thread when things have moved on a bit On a separate note, if anyone reading this is in the market for a Heljan blue DC Class 40 or 45 ... mine are going in the next couple of weeks, so feel free to PM if your interested - both around the £500 mark ... sorry for the deviation Andy. So as I understand it Severn Mills has moved south and we are about to be invaded with Cromptons then . I have got a 33 here that is owned by a mate, I have just put a Zimo chip with Paul Chetter's sound project on it for him, and once the Earl Mountbatten of Burma plates arrive and are attached, it will be heading off to the Weymouth area! They are superb models. Rich Sounds like your getting sorted mate, I hope the new direction works for you, feel free to post pics of the 33 on here once the Name Plates are fitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Matt C Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Ray H said: Andy Can I suggest having a micro-switch or similar that cuts power to the layout when the swing part is open to avoid the risk of anything taking a tumble from the open end? 4 hours ago, Andrew P said: Yes a good idea Ray, I don't know how it can be done, in the meantime there will be stop pegs to drop in under the bridge. Andy is the sector plate going to be wired for power on the RHS of the door (pivot end?) Or from the left hand side of the door (curved edge) ? I wonder if you could use a couple of metal plates that make contact when the sector plate is closed, passing current TO the sector plate but also completing the circuit for the whole layout making it live. Opening the plate breaks the circuit cutting power to the layout. You could also use two lots so that you pass current through on one edge and return on tother edge of the sector plate completing the circuit 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew P said: Sounds like your getting sorted mate, I hope the new direction works for you, feel free to post pics of the 33 on here once the Name Plates are fitted. Thanks Andy - time will tell ... as for the Crompton ... Haha! That sounds a bit like the character out of Vicar of Dibley So you want a Class 33 then Jim? No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, Yes! I'll pop some pics up ... just be aware they are for viewing entertainment and not for their persuasion properties! Rich 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, Mattc6911 said: Andy is the sector plate going to be wired for power on the RHS of the door (pivot end?) Or from the left hand side of the door (curved edge) ? I wonder if you could use a couple of metal plates that make contact when the sector plate is closed, passing current TO the sector plate but also completing the circuit for the whole layout making it live. Opening the plate breaks the circuit cutting power to the layout. You could also use two lots so that you pass current through on one edge and return on tother edge of the sector plate completing the circuit I'm not good with electrics, but I understand what your saying, and I like the idea. Not sure how it will work with DCC though. The current plan is to run a feed across the door to the pivot end, and also to the 3 storage tracks, but that is still in the thinking stage at the moment, as I might leave them dead so that there not ticking over etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Matt C Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Andrew P said: I'm not good with electrics, but I understand what your saying, and I like the idea. Not sure how it will work with DCC though. The current plan is to run a feed across the door to the pivot end, and also to the 3 storage tracks, but that is still in the thinking stage at the moment, as I might leave them dead so that there not ticking over etc. Was mulling it over myself Andy, realising it would be for DCC. I'm thinking 3 plates, two short and one long. Two short plates mounted on the SIDE of the main layout half inch apart but very near to the edge of the layout adjacent to the edge of the sector plate. First plate is wired to the controller, second plate is wired to the Bus. The Third LONG plate is mounted on the edge of the sector plate So it projects OVER the other two plates and wired to the bus ON the sector plate. When sector plate is closed the long plate touches BOTH Short plates completing the circuit Think of a latch gate, when you close the gate the latch that projects out from the gate drops over the hook. Latch is long plate hook is two short plates. On the other edge ( nearest the wall it can simply be a long plate wired on the main layout and a short plate on the sector plate that makes contact when its closed. You only have to have a double break ( 3 plates) on one of the two wires Sounds more complicated than it is 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted June 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Andrew P said: Andy, Now you've proved it works, looks like there is about 6 inches to the end of the first point. You could have all bar the front face of the bridge as part of the swivelling area and increase the fiddle yard by a small wagon or perhaps that half a loco that doesn't quite fit now it is shorter and not make any difference to the scenic area. Edit: forget that, think I was having a moment! You are only swinging it to open the door, not as a key part of operating so the swinging part doesnt really limit the train length anyway. Edited June 29, 2020 by Hal Nail 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Temeraire said: Come on Andy, you're down south now! Already planted the seeds of 33’s....just needs a bit of fertiliser lol 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Impressive Andy - yes you need a 33! Seriously good model. here is mine Paul R 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Hal Nail said: Andy, Now you've proved it works, looks like there is about 6 inches to the end of the first point. You could have all bar the front face of the bridge as part of the swivelling area and increase the fiddle yard by a small wagon or perhaps that half a loco that doesn't quite fit now it is shorter and not make any difference to the scenic area. Edit: forget that, think I was having a moment! You are only swinging it to open the door, not as a key part of operating so the swinging part doesnt really limit the train length anyway. Actually it's the same idea that I used previously with the Fiddle Yard, i.e. if I was shunting a rake of Wagons that were just a bit to long for the Fiddle Yard, but cleared the Point, then that was fine. The only time the F/Y length will make a difference, as again as previously, is when using it to change tracks, and now of course also to park it up over the Bench when not operating the Layout. Now also with the new system the only other time it will go from one extreme to the other during operation is to dispatch or collect Locos from the three short Loco holding Tracks to the right of the Bench area. I hope that makes some sort of sense, well I know what I mean, haha. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Now you are back down south, 33s are the order of the day surely... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 35 minutes ago, 47606odin said: Already planted the seeds of 33’s....just needs a bit of fertiliser lol 4 minutes ago, pwr said: Impressive Andy - yes you need a 33! Seriously good model. here is mine Paul R 4 minutes ago, georgeT said: Now you are back down south, 33s are the order of the day surely... DOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN''''''TTTTTTTT, I have to sell some OO first. But very tempted now. As Ian said, the Seeds have been sown, which is never a good thing with me. 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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