RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted March 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2019 Is this available as a 4mm scale kit does anybody know please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted March 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27, 2019 Hi I believe there is a Judith Edge kit for this http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/catalogue/judithedge BR Horwich 0-4-0ST 47005-9 This is the BR version of the LMS Kitson 0F 0-4-0ST, built at Horwich in 1953. Prices: 4mm scale £60 + £3.50 p&p Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted March 27, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2019 Many thanks Paul. I didn't think to look there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted March 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27, 2019 We have some in stock...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted March 28, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Michael Edge said: We have some in stock...... Thank you Michael, I'll buy one at S4um. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Jidenco did a kit for the LMS 1540 (47000) series. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Judith Edge do that variation as well. http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/judithedge/kit/375 Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted March 28, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Re6/6 said: Thank you Michael, I'll buy one at S4um. We'll keep one for you in that case. The Horwich version is fairly new but we've had the original LMS Kitson type for quite a few years now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted March 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2019 Does the Horwich 1953 version differ much in appearance from the original LMS type, please Michael? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 The main differences are a much larger bunker in front of the cab and shorter, but larger diameter tanks on the later build. Plenty of detailed photos here that show the differences. https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p461347233 Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted March 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: The main differences are a much larger bunker in front of the cab and shorter, but larger diameter tanks on the later build. So those aren't side tanks (for water), but coal bunkers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Yes. Coal bunkers. I think coal capacity was a problem as many photographs of them have coal placed along the running plates. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted March 28, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Captain Kernow said: Does the Horwich 1953 version differ much in appearance from the original LMS type, please Michael? There are very few parts in common between the two kits, I did originally think that it would be possible to put out one kit with alternative parts and all the Horwich bits were on the first test etch. The differences came about as a result of BR increasing the coal space, if you look at photos of the Kitsons at Bank Hall coaled up for a day's shunting in Liverpool you will see why - coal was piled up on every possible surface, along the footplate, on the cab roof, even balanced along the handrails! The extended bunkers meant that the tank had to be shorter so to maintain the water capacity it was made deeper. This involved a shorter chimney and the whole of the dome became visible, the steam manifold remained the same but the injectors were moved to the back of the tank. The cab was enlarged slightly - a few inches longer at the back and the frame/footplate length increased as well. Presumably for better balance a much thicker leading buffer beam was used and the cab steps were different - the only unaltered parts were the boiler, smokebox, cylinders and motion. Not bad for what was supposed to be a new build of the same design. Incidentally the original ones are always quoted as being a standard Kitson design but i can't find anything remotely similar built by them and most of the features look very Derbyish to me. The two test etch builds lined up on my test track, original on the left, Horwich on the right. 2 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted March 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2019 Superb, many thanks. Aesthetically, I'd opt for the older version, I think. I'll have to have a chat with Re6/6 to see who is getting which one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCB Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 The design looks very Midland, so why not build some more of the Midland 0-4-0 side tanks? Maybe the Midland got fed up with people criticising their designs and decided to show what a really ugly loco could look like only to be trumped by the L&Y in BR Days. Makes you wonder why they didn't build some more L&Y pugs instead. Perhaps they were making work for otherwise redundant drawing office staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Surprised they didn't do what the Caley did, couple them to a small wagon rebuilt as a coal & bits tender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nope Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) Does anyone know how to check out an item (specifically this one: http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/judithedge/kit/375 )? I cannot find anything like an "Add Cart" to buy this. Or do you have to be present at a store to buy this item? Edited November 14, 2019 by nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 hours ago, nope said: Does anyone know how to check out an item (specifically this one: http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/judithedge/kit/375 )? I cannot find anything like an "Add Cart" to buy this. Or do you have to be present at a store to buy this item? Telephone or exhibition (Manchester upcoming) is the simplest way. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted November 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2019 Our address, email address and phone number are all shown in clear on the website, if you have been trying to phone us we have been away for a couple of weeks. We do always answer emails wherever we are but can only answer the phone when we are at home. The Kitson 0F is currently out of stock but we are expecting more in the next week or so, we hope before Manchester exhibition. Judith and Michael Edge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nope Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Ok thank you! Please notify me when you have them in stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted November 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2019 OK, will do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nope Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) I also have questions about the kit itself. This will be my first time assembling a kit to make a model engine. I want to know what I should expect. Do I need any special tools to construct this model? Does the motor come along with the kit, as well as paint? Thank you. Edited November 17, 2019 by nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted November 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2019 You will need to supply motor/gearbox, wheels and buffers for this kit (and certainly not paint!) - the parts list tells you what is needed/recommended. You do need to solder the parts together, no special tools are required but please note that this kit requires some components (boiler and tank wrapper) to be rolled. Ideally this is done with rolling bars but can be done by hand. If you are a complete novice this kit is definitely not one of our easiest to build. I do try to make them as easy to build as I can but the design of each locomotive type can and does throw up all sorts of problems. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nope Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Do you know where I can buy the wheels and buffers that are displayed above? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 17/11/2019 at 01:58, nope said: I also have questions about the kit itself. This will be my first time assembling a kit to make a model engine. I want to know what I should expect. Do I need any special tools to construct this model? Does the motor come along with the kit, as well as paint? Thank you. Can I recommend 2 books by Iain Rice? Etched loco construction and Locomotive kit chassis construction? The chassis book is a little out of date now in terms of motor and transmission options but still great for the basics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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