Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) Hi John, It's Russian railways class GT1h-002 https://www.globalrailwayreview.com/news/31945/main-gas-turbine-locomotive/ there's a less agricultural version, the GT1-001 details of both can be found on page 38-41 of this document: http://ipem.ru/files/spec_veb_nov.pdf Gas Turbines are very much alive and well in the East. Edited November 29, 2019 by Dr Gerbil-Fritters 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleander Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 thanks for the Link and info john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted November 29, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 29, 2019 On 20/11/2019 at 16:26, Wickham Green said: Hmmm ......... later WHAT year ? - the site seems to be date 2015-18 ! it was functional earlier this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Not exactly a lot of 'later' this year left now .............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbles2 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Moving pictures of 18000 testing in 1947. http://www.zeitraumaargau.ch/?v=e86dgy9d#/detail/e86dgy9d 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbles2 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) EX-BR 18000 + SNCF BB16685, ÜBERHERRN, GERMANY by Ian -nl, on Flickr EX-BR 18000 + SNCF BB16685, ÜBERHERRN, GERMANY In October 1972 Test Vehicle 18000 is being prepared in Überherrn, Germany for adhesion trials with SNCF locomotive BB16685 on the French-German border in the Saar Region. 18000 was originally a gas-turbine-electric locomotive, ordered in Switzerland by the GWR and delivered in 1949 to British Railways. When 18000 became surplus to BR’s requirements a proposal was developed by the International Union of Railways to convert her to a test vehicle to investigate the design parameters which influence the adhesion between wheel and rail. In this connection 18000 was completely rebuilt in 1969 in the Bellinzona workshops of the Swiss Federal Railways. Almost all of the original technical equipment was removed from the body and from the bogies. One bogie (nearest the camera) could be fitted with various types of traction motor driving the middle wheelset. This facility required a major reconstruction of the bogie, and local remodelling of the vehicle body, leading to the ‘blisters’ on the underframe. The traction motor was fed by the equipment of another specially adapted locomotive, which ran in tandem. The choice of a suitable tandem locomotive made it possible to investigate the effect of different traction control systems and catenary voltages. Part of the original engine compartment of 18000 was occupied by the traction motor and mechanical transmission; the rest of the compartment was fitted out as room for the measuring equipment and for meetings of the test team. The international test team affectionately bestowed the name Elisabetta on their unique vehicle. The tests of different technical configurations took place between 1970 and 1975. In the photo the SNCF prototype thyristor-controlled locomotive BB16685 is coupled to 18000, which has been equipped with a corresponding SNCF traction motor. The line from Wadgassen to Hargarten was chosen for these trials because it was lightly used and also could be switched to either the German or the French overhead supply system. The route has since been de-electrified and much of it has been closed to traffic. BB16685 was withdrawn from service in 2004. 18000 has been repainted in BR livery and is displayed at Didcot Railway Centre. EX-BR 18000 + SNCF BB16685 + DB BR181, WADGASSEN, FRANCE by Ian -nl, on Flickr Edited December 8, 2019 by bubbles2 7 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Sounds like it would be 'difficult' to remove the 'blisters' and return the old girl to original appearance - presumably there's some sort of segmental bearing in them as a huge French traction motor on the middle axle would preclude any sort of centre pivot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 On 29/11/2019 at 17:31, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: Hi John, It's Russian railways class GT1h-002 https://www.globalrailwayreview.com/news/31945/main-gas-turbine-locomotive/ there's a less agricultural version, the GT1-001 details of both can be found on page 38-41 of this document: http://ipem.ru/files/spec_veb_nov.pdf Gas Turbines are very much alive and well in the East. Very interesting document, thanks for that. One thing is that the gas turbine locos run on natural gas, of which Russia has large reserves, carried on the loco in liquid form in a tank that is replaced when empty. Also in the same document is a diesel shunter that runs on natural gas. It's claimed exhaust emissions are very low compared to using diesel oil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbles2 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) Eagle cutaway by L Ashwell Wood from Ausdew on Flickr. Edited December 21, 2019 by bubbles2 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Hi All, With respect to the sounds. When 18000 turned up at DRC, an appeal went out to try to locate a recording and there was no responses. In short, there isn't anything known. Film of it moving, yes. Sound to go with it? No. If a recording turns up the GWS would love a copy! There might be something out there but the GWS hasn't found it. All the best, Castle 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted February 3, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2020 On 12/11/2019 at 14:58, The Stationmaster said: Yes. And of course it ran to Plymouth at various times I have photographic proof now as there's a nice Peter Gray photo in the newly released book 'Western Region Non Passenger Trains by Jeremy Clements.There is mention of it hauling 17 coaches unaided between Newton and Plymouth. Also seen in 1952 with a single brake composite. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffordshire Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Always been available ... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteremy Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Yes, of course. But I think that it is a good choice for 'limited run' RTR. I would never have bothered with a kit. But given a good RTR option then, on a Rule 1 basis (for me), yes please. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_H Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) On 20/11/2019 at 14:48, Wickham Green said: Anyone know where Peter Handford's recordings are ? - remember Argo Transacord ? - He may have been too late for this or he may have treated non-steam with disdain, of course. All his master tapes are held by the NRM. Peter kept extensive records Edited February 14, 2020 by Mel_H Typo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteremy Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 On 03/02/2020 at 17:31, gwrrob said: I have photographic proof now as there's a nice Peter Gray photo in the newly released book 'Western Region Non Passenger Trains by Jeremy Clements.There is mention of it hauling 17 coaches unaided between Newton and Plymouth. Also seen in 1952 with a single brake composite. The 1952 photo is actually 18100, not 18000 - but the single coach formation, on a test run, appeals from a modelling point of view. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Garry D100 Posted March 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2020 In Aprils edition of Hornby Magazine on page 13 is a small picture of the first engineering samples of the bodyshells. Hope to see bigger versions soon :-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oliver Rails Posted March 11, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2020 I am pleased to share with you some initial first engineering body sample images. I must stress that these are the very first samples and subject to various improvements and modifications before production. 20 1 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted March 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2020 Cybermen ..... 2 2 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted March 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 11, 2020 Or Darth Vader? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I was just going to say Cybermen scanning down the thread!! Let's hope the 'mechanical noises' aren't 'thump, thump' ... !! Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 11, 2020 10 hours ago, RedgateModels said: Cybermen ..... Don't! IMO the Cybermen in the Underground was the scariest series ever... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Rails Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share Posted June 19, 2020 Artwork has now been approved for our exclusive Heljan OO Gauge 18000 Gas Turbine 'Kerosene Castle' Locomotives! Further updates including the expected delivery dates are expected over the upcoming weeks and will be determined by upcoming sample approval. PRE-ORDER PRICE: £199.99 each PRE-ORDERING IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED AS IT WILL ONLY BE A LIMITED PRODUCTION RUN. RESERVE YOURS NOW WITH £30.00 DEPOSIT CLICK HERE for more information 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted June 19, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2020 Are you allowed to say which of the three liveries has been the most popular Oliver ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Garry D100 Posted June 19, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2020 Ive the late crest green on order but the gloss black looks very tempting. wonder if i could change the order, Oliver? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Rails Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 hour ago, gwrrob said: Are you allowed to say which of the three liveries has been the most popular Oliver ? I don't see why not! So far the black model is top, then late crest and finally early crest. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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