atom3624 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I notice for almost the first time, Bachmann are finally following Hornby and fitting the little cab side windows / ash guards? I've seen a couple of Bachmann models with this moulded in, but not actually fitted separately ... Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 22/12/2020 at 10:43, atom3624 said: I notice for almost the first time, Bachmann are finally following Hornby and fitting the little cab side windows / ash guards? I've seen a couple of Bachmann models with this moulded in, but not actually fitted separately ... Al. I thought the jubilee / patriot and Stanier mogul had them as self fit ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Probably right. I think I have seen Bachmann making an effort somewhere else ... Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted December 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2020 45 minutes ago, adb968008 said: I thought the jubilee / patriot and Stanier mogul had them as self fit ? Not provided in my 3 bought from new Jubilees - 45562, 45659 or 45687 though you do get a window for the second cab aperture. Not with Patriot 45543 either. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted December 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) On 22/12/2020 at 04:00, robmcg said: Only have a passing interest in LNER but when I saw the pre production photos on Rails website, my first thought was something looked a bit strange around the front end - as if the pony wheels are too small or too far back (or dare I say too narrow!). Reminded me a bit of Hornby mid 70s. Now I've seen these two together I think it's just the effect of the missing steps? Edit: the different steam pipes also make a difference: the older one has a more purposeful, squat appearance. Not saying one is wrong, just interesting what an impact a couple of things have. Edited December 30, 2020 by Hal Nail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 non-straight running plat On 30/12/2020 at 07:23, Hal Nail said: Only have a passing interest in LNER but when I saw the pre production photos on Rails website, my first thought was something looked a bit strange around the front end - as if the pony wheels are too small or too far back (or dare I say too narrow!). Reminded me a bit of Hornby mid 70s. Now I've seen these two together I think it's just the effect of the missing steps? Edit: the different steam pipes also make a difference: the older one has a more purposeful, squat appearance. Not saying one is wrong, just interesting what an impact a couple of things have. non-straight running plates both above the drivers and the cylinders/pony. Very wavy. Almost as bad as Hornby's Ski-Slope A3s....! Really hope Bachmann fix this before production of a £220 model.... I don't want to be spending extra money for a replacement body/running plate off later batches in future years! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 On 30/12/2020 at 07:23, Hal Nail said: Only have a passing interest in LNER but when I saw the pre production photos on Rails website, my first thought was something looked a bit strange around the front end - as if the pony wheels are too small or too far back (or dare I say too narrow!). Reminded me a bit of Hornby mid 70s. Now I've seen these two together I think it's just the effect of the missing steps? Edit: the different steam pipes also make a difference: the older one has a more purposeful, squat appearance. Not saying one is wrong, just interesting what an impact a couple of things have. Totally different V2s though. One is a Monobloc version with the cylinders, steamchest and smokebox saddle cast as one piece. The other is a rebuild with outside steampipes, new steam chest/saddle and separate cylinders. Only 70 odd were rebuilt. The squat appearance is what is wrong with the old model. The smokebox, boiler and firebox is the wrong size and shape. The new version is correct. The wrong boiler on the old model is why all the LNER aficionados were buying these. Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Has it been mentioned that pictures of the livery samples of the standard model are on the Bachmann website? https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/category/152/lner-v2-4791-lner-lined-green-(original)/35-200 https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/category/152/lner-v2-60845-br-lined-black-(early-emblem)/35-201 https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/category/152/lner-v2-60847-'st-peter's-school'-br-lined-green-(late-crest)/35-202 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 52 minutes ago, Paul.Uni said: Has it been mentioned that pictures of the livery samples of the standard model are on the Bachmann website? https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/category/152/lner-v2-4791-lner-lined-green-(original)/35-200 https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/category/152/lner-v2-60845-br-lined-black-(early-emblem)/35-201 https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/category/152/lner-v2-60847-'st-peter's-school'-br-lined-green-(late-crest)/35-202 Thanks for posting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 Oh dear... the ski jump is very evident. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted January 4, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2021 15 hours ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: Oh dear... the ski jump is very evident. Yes it is isn't it. The LNER livery one also shows very lopsided fitment of the cab interior. Here's hoping these are just early teething problems with the livery samples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, teaky said: Yes it is isn't it. The LNER livery one also shows very lopsided fitment of the cab interior. Here's hoping these are just early teething problems with the livery samples. I sense the lopsided effect on the LNER model is due to the cab seats not being fitted straight (certainly the left hand one is visibly leaning). The actual backhead looks OK.... but I may be wrong https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/images/ocw/35-200 lner v2 4791 lner lined green (original)-14295-large.jpg https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/lner-v2-4791-lner-lined-green-(original)/35-200 Can I suggest people contact Bachmann now that offices are reopening to draw attention to the running plate issue and demonstrate the numbers who are concerned? It would be a real shame for such otherwise well researched models to be led down by poor fitting and assembly of parts (or depending on cause of ski jump, poor casting of parts). Talk about falling at the last hurdle. Edited January 4, 2021 by G-BOAF 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted April 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 30, 2021 On 29/11/2019 at 13:47, AY Mod said: A reasonable estimate would be to say 12-18 months from now. 17 months and counting... but Covid hasn’t helped of course. Although the speed at which Hornby and others continue to churn out stuff makes for an interesting comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 43 minutes ago, Chamby said: 17 months and counting... but Covid hasn’t helped of course. Although the speed at which Hornby and others continue to churn out stuff makes for an interesting comparison. To be fair, Bachmann's website has listed the V2 as due for release August/September this year for well over 12 months. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meld9003 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 What's up with the rivets around the front of the smokebox on the BR version? It looks like they're too far back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60800 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I mentioned this in the Locomotion models thread but neglected to here, but, the current delay of the arrival of the V2's is due to the entire running plate being retooled to remove the wave and the ski-jump. Original delivery estimates were March / April - the V2's are now expected in August but the Precedents will be first. Cheers, 60800 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckinneyc Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Good that Bachmann have listened to feedback and are intent on correcting any errors 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 On 05/05/2021 at 19:37, mckinneyc said: Good that Bachmann have listened to feedback and are intent on correcting any errors Bachmann has just confirmed to me that the trailing wheels will be flangeless, even though early pictures clearly show flanges. I have provided feedback. What is the world coming to? I was rather looking forward to the new V2 but I would want, if not perfection, a model to my taste. I shall depend on my old V2s. That’s the problem with re-tools: unless they are spot on, there is little point upgrading. A model of something never before available in RTR is much harder to resist. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 55 minutes ago, No Decorum said: Bachmann has just confirmed to me that the trailing wheels will be flangeless, even though early pictures clearly show flanges. I have provided feedback. What is the world coming to? I was rather looking forward to the new V2 but I would want, if not perfection, a model to my taste. I shall depend on my old V2s. That’s the problem with re-tools: unless they are spot on, there is little point upgrading. A model of something never before available in RTR is much harder to resist. I'll be surprised if they don't provide flanged wheels as well, like Hornby do. They did supply an extra set of driving wheels with the Midland 1P 0-4-4T. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie K Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, No Decorum said: Bachmann has just confirmed to me that the trailing wheels will be flangeless, even though early pictures clearly show flanges. I have provided feedback. Did they provide a reason? Seems like an odd decision, given they’d successfully got pivoting axles within a daylight-free trailing truck to work on previous models like the GNR C1 Atlantic. Interested to see if that bulled-up valve gear is the final version too, I’d presumed the very shiny look was simply a carryover from the museum-spec Locomotion Models variants and would be blackened for the regular versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 I was just looking back to those 'early production' photos, and there's a hint of a flange, but not the normal style. Don't think it'll be a game changer as far as loss of sale. As some have said in the past, the floating flanged axle in the pony truck has worked as the pony is wider than it should be - this change is probably to ensure more-scale pony truck mouldings. Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: I'll be surprised if they don't provide flanged wheels as well, like Hornby do. They did supply an extra set of driving wheels with the Midland 1P 0-4-4T. Jason I’m surprised they fitted flangeless wheels at all – it isn’t normal Bachmann practice. Hornby doesn’t always provide extra flanged wheels; for some reason the solid chassis of the Merchant Navy and the Thompson A2s have been made to preclude the fitting of them. 1 hour ago, OliverBytham said: Did they provide a reason? Seems like an odd decision, given they’d successfully got pivoting axles within a daylight-free trailing truck to work on previous models like the GNR C1 Atlantic. Interested to see if that bulled-up valve gear is the final version too, I’d presumed the very shiny look was simply a carryover from the museum-spec Locomotion Models variants and would be blackened for the regular versions. No, no reason provided. It seems odd to me too. I can only guess that it is a response to criticism from “the opposite camp” of the over-wide trailing truck and shallow axleboxes of previous models although it might also be an attempt to avoid the expense of the older sprung arrangement. With careful design, I think it would be possible to produce a much better compromise than has been produced to date. JSpencer for one has made what seem some very workable suggestions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted May 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2021 On 05/05/2021 at 08:43, 60800 said: I mentioned this in the Locomotion models thread but neglected to here, but, the current delay of the arrival of the V2's is due to the entire running plate being retooled to remove the wave and the ski-jump. Original delivery estimates were March / April - the V2's are now expected in August but the Precedents will be first. Cheers, 60800 Of course; they are Precedents. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Am I right in thinking the DCC socket is in the tender? TIA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 If so, are they going to tender pickups as well? Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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