KeithMacdonald Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Just found on the Hornby website. Eurostar, Class 373, Set 3005/3006 'Yellow Submarine' Train Pack - Era 9 https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/eurostar-class-373-set-3005-3006-yellow-submarine-train-pack-era-9.html £109.99 Eurostar, Class 373/1 'Yellow Submarine' Divisible Centre Saloons Coach Pack https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/eurostar-class-373-1-yellow-submarine-divisible-centre-saloons-coach-pack.html £80.99 Image (c) Hornby Almost seems like a bargain price? (he said, anticipating how much we'll see them listed for on eBay as a "Collectors Item") "Expected: Summer 2020" - don't bother saying it will probably be delayed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted February 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2020 Interesting they say this in the latest Engine Shed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 It's only Railroad standard and aimed at tourists. The Americans and Japanese will hoover them up if they get them in the right shops. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said: It's only Railroad standard and aimed at tourists. The Americans and Japanese will hoover them up if they get them in the right shops. Jason Is there a Class 50 in the pack also? Mike. 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Well, this picture has a Hornby thing, and a yellow submarine in it. So, it’s old-hat really. 5 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 29, 2020 8 hours ago, Nearholmer said: Well, this picture has a Hornby thing, and a yellow submarine in it. So, it’s old-hat really. That's so unprototypical, a BR numbered loco and pre group lettered wagon, ridiculous! Mike. 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Pre-nationalisation, LNER, rather than pre-grouping. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nearholmer said: Pre-nationalisation, LNER, rather than pre-grouping. Apologies, the N E lettering threw me, I obviously missed the L and the R! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 LNER used NE. The pre-1923 NER used either NE or N.E.R. ...... potentially confusing. Pre and post-1923 GWR is equally/more easy to confuse, in that both were GW. Lettering sizes did change, however, in both cases. Submarines were generally light or dark admiralty grey with white lettering before 1969, although some very early ones may have carried dazzle camouflage for surface use. In 1969 the yellow psychedelic livery was adopted. 3 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invicta Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 17 hours ago, Hilux5972 said: Interesting they say this in the latest Engine Shed. I'm not familiar with the prototype, but out of pure curiosity, how have the achieved the compression of the livery- have they changed the proportions of the actual graphics to fit the full 18-car layout onto 6 cars. or have they just left a few cars out? 16 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: It's only Railroad standard and aimed at tourists. The Americans and Japanese will hoover them up if they get them in the right shops. Jason As you say, it's not one for the serious modeller- it's an interpretation of a very short-lived advertising scheme (3 months if I read the Hornby website correctly?), aimed at the trainset market, tourists and collectors of Beatles memorabilia- and if it sells, there's nothing wrong in that 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium amwells Posted February 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Invicta said: I'm not familiar with the prototype, but out of pure curiosity, how have the achieved the compression of the livery- have they changed the proportions of the actual graphics to fit the full 18-car layout onto 6 cars. or have they just left a few cars out? I think what they’ve done is taken the 18 images (same on both sides of each coach on the prototype as I understand) and applied 12 of them to the available unique sides of the model. So... six images missing and each vehicle individually ‘wrong’ but hey I think it’s a great job given the limitations. Seriously tempting. If only those extra coaches could be tooled up... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldomtom2 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Pictures of the real-life livery are fairly rare, but from the few taken it looks like the Hornby model is more fictious than not. On a side note, what is irritating is that as far as I can see you can't put the full set (including the coach pack) into an order that's accurate to the film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floreat Industria Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 It's sad to think that 3005/6 ended up at Kingsbury scrapyard on 27th October 2016. Here is the set arriving. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 29/02/2020 at 04:00, Nearholmer said: LNER used NE. The pre-1923 NER used either NE or N.E.R. ...... potentially confusing. Pre and post-1923 GWR is equally/more easy to confuse, in that both were GW. Lettering sizes did change, however, in both cases. Submarines were generally light or dark admiralty grey with white lettering before 1969, although some very early ones may have carried dazzle camouflage for surface use. In 1969 the yellow psychedelic livery was adopted. If we are going all pedantic,I would suggest that a great many wagons kept their earlier liveries well into nationalization. The loco has the early crest putting it in the 50s. John 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMay Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 AFAICT the LNER adopted NE as wagon markings during the war: https://www.lner.info/article/liveries/livery.php So, It's entirely prototypical to see a wagon in the early 1950s still carrying pre-1948 markings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 14 hours ago, Floreat Industria said: It's sad to think that 3005/6 ended up at Kingsbury scrapyard on 27th October 2016. Here is the set arriving. I was always amazed that this class was largely scrapped so soon. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 5944 Posted October 13, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, JSpencer said: I was always amazed that this class was largely scrapped so soon. Complicated, heavily route restricted, and rotten from the inside out. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted October 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 13/10/2020 at 06:43, TonyMay said: AFAICT the LNER adopted NE as wagon markings during the war: https://www.lner.info/article/liveries/livery.php So, It's entirely prototypical to see a wagon in the early 1950s still carrying pre-1948 markings. Wagons often go a long time before getting the sort of overhaul that involves a repaint, and the late 40s and early 50s, the changeover period, were also the last (and some of the worst) years of rationing and the austerity economy; paint was not easy to source, being an export priority to assist with the post war balance of payments problem, and wooden minerals and unfitted opens were put into service unpainted after overhaul, including brand new opens. Repairs to patch and keep wagons in service, and the cull of older wagons in the 50s meant that pre-nationalisation and even pre-war liveries could be commonly seen in the early 50s, and to some extent a decade later, under several top coats of filth. There were the few wagons in transition liveries, applied during the first 6 months of 1948 as well; these were very similar to the Big 4 liveries without the company initials but with the prefixed numbers. Deep water research submarines were painted yellow before 1969; I know because my dad took National Geographic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Original eurostar still looks like it’s come from the future , not headed off for the scrap pile ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted October 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just received notifications that these packs are due to be arriving within the next two weeks :-) HTH 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Markwj Posted November 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2020 Has anyone got this model I know it’s dated tooling but how is the livery- does it have working lights? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Markwj said: Has anyone got this model I know it’s dated tooling but how is the livery- does it have working lights? Livery application is crisp and as good as Hornby's usual standards in terms of livery application (some images and videos are already online IIRC). No directional lighting, though it was proposed years ago, but nothing materialised on that front. Edited November 22, 2020 by MGR Hooper! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Markwj Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2020 Page 65 in the Hornby catalogue 2020 shows the model with working lights! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddles Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 To those who might be interested in these things, there is an error in the graphics which was not picked up by Sony or Apple Corps when they signed them off. On the same piece of decoration that features "When I'm 64" there is a graphic for "Only a Northern Song". The trouble is, they have only put one "R" in Northern! (Northen) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Markwj said: Page 65 in the Hornby catalogue 2020 shows the model with working lights! I don't have a copy of the magazine, so can't really tell. But I can confirm that it doesn't have working lights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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