RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2021 Lots of good stuff there Pylon King 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted January 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2021 20 hours ago, Pylon King said: Totally agree , both the factories and Victorian shops/town houses are absolute favourites , still superb kits to this day .. Photo - Hoddesdon show a few years ago. More details of the Model Land range and the interesting modular Arkitex system. Model Land was a bit of a mixture, but there are some real gems in there that would stand up well today and were a great loss when they disappeared. The same goes for the Tri-ang Modern Stations. These were current when I had my first set so perhaps I'm biassed, but they seem much better observed than later Hornby buildings of the 70s and 80s which always had a strongly made-up feel to me. I remember a box-top illustration on, I think, a curved platform piece with canopy which was well as exciting as anything on an Airfix box. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon King Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) On 02/01/2021 at 13:15, Flying Pig said: More details of the Model Land range and the interesting modular Arkitex system. Model Land was a bit of a mixture, but there are some real gems in there that would stand up well today and were a great loss when they disappeared. The same goes for the Tri-ang Modern Stations. These were current when I had my first set so perhaps I'm biassed, but they seem much better observed than later Hornby buildings of the 70s and 80s which always had a strongly made-up feel to me. I remember a box-top illustration on, I think, a curved platform piece with canopy which was well as exciting as anything on an Airfix box. The late seventies old style stations /engine shed/signal box series was definitely a step backwards and although still in production in many respects are more dated and toy oriented. Regarding the Model-Land range there certainly were a few gems . The factories and Victorian shops/town houses command high prices and still look great to this day . Marketed alongside the Triang/Hornby range and regularly featured in the catalogues they are generally more elusive to locate . Edited February 28, 2021 by Pylon King 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2021 56 minutes ago, Pylon King said: The late seventies old style stations /engine shed/signal box series was definitely a step backwards and although still in production in many respects is more dated and toy oriented. Regarding the Model-Land range there certainly were a few gems . The factories and Victorian shops/town houses command high prices and still look great to this day . Marketed alongside the Triang/Hornby range and regularly featured in the catalogues they are generally more elusive to locate . I’ve got a few of the factory units and they are superb . Can only assume moulds are destroyed or are too expensive to produce . They still look good and I think would sell well . What you get though is the excitement of the whole system . Tri-ang Hornby trains , Minic motorways , Model Land and Arkitex . Were we less demanding in these days looking to model or create miniature versions of surroundings? Has time moved on . Should I be shooting Zombies ? 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 The early Model Land/Real Estate cottages are nice too. I rebuilt and extended a battered secondhand RML4 Marigold Cottage into this: By using a sheet each of Wills SSMP211 plain roof ties and SSMP214 cement rendering at the back I was able to re-use a large part of the rear wall at the front. Still needs finishing. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) Many of those Model Land buildings were later made by Dapol branded as Dapoland. Sourced again from Pat Hammond's Rovex Bible RML1 Village Inn as C52, with brown sign and wall tiles but without flower planter,seat and timber cladding on RH end wall. RML2 The Grange as C50 The Mount (black roof) RML4 Marigold Cottage as C76 Buttercup Cottage (grey roof) RML5 Dove Cottage as C66 Robins Nest RML15 Tea Shoppe as C70 Coffee Shop RML10 Hollywood Bungalow as C65 Executive Bungalow, but with a smaller garage from RML16 RML11 San Fernando Bungalow as C63 Holiday Bungalow RML12 Bermuda Bungalow as C64 Retirement Bungalow (bright red roof) RML16 Villa Capri as C68 Seaside News (bright red roof, no flower boxes) RML36 Small Single Storey Shop as C74 Single Fronted Shop RML37 Medium Shop as C75 Double Fronted Shop RML60 Supermarket as C71 and also adopted as a bus garage Edited January 2, 2021 by Butler Henderson 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Dapol did the RML60 Supermarket too both as C71 Supermarket and, with (printed paper?) folding doors, as C82 Country Bus Depot. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2021 But not any of the factories , which is a shame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon King Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Legend said: But not any of the factories , which is a shame Dapol also acquired the Factory Production building tooling . Sadly it was never used. Edited January 2, 2021 by Pylon King 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted January 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2021 On 19/12/2020 at 13:12, BernardTPM said: Yes, for me growing up the 1963 catalogue was one of the best. My original copy is somewhat battered, but I picked up a better one later. Starts well with the fabulous Cuneo cover: I would love to know the reason why a D200 was depicted here. I'm sure Cuneo knew enough about railways to know they would never have been seen on the Western region. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon King Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) On 19/12/2020 at 10:53, Legend said: These pylons go back further than 1993 Ryan . I believe they were modelled on real ones outside the factory in Margate . Maybe introduced in the early 60s as part of the model land series . Anyway you can see them here on a layout in the 1969 Tri-ang Hornby book of trains . This is part of the layout that featured in the amalgamation leaflet of 65 . It is interesting because the narrative tells us that the coach behind the B12 is Maroon but the next one could easily be green or crimson and cream and still authentic , completely ignoring the fact that you really wouldn’t have seen a B12 and blue Class 31 together , never mind a Hymek on a Freightliner . Oh well , it didn’t matter at the time . As others have pointed out the binding on this book is an issue , this is my original 1969 edition which through lots of use is falling to pieces , so apologies for the binding line that goes up the middle of this layout , but I think it still captures the essence . I do have a pristine Book of Trains as well , but I certainly didn’t want to wedge the page open The Triang pylons were definitely a design compromise , the original PL1 designs were larger with different designs for tension , deviation and terminal . Using the original CEB blueprints this 1:76 scale PL1 D30 model was constructed , the prototype is located just behind Hornby’s Margate headquarters. Edited January 3, 2021 by Pylon King 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurenceb Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) Does anyone know what the Model land church was based on? I remember a TV programe of a RAF Hawk flying round Britain flying over what looked very like the model Edited January 3, 2021 by laurenceb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) No mention by Pat Hammond of the church prototype other than it was under scale. It was along with the pylons revived by Hornby, the RML58 version without chimes, as R599 with improved stained glass windows. There were three more that Dapol intended to release but their does not seem to any record of them doing so. RML6 Hardware Shop as C69 Ironmongers Store RML7 Garage as C53 Country Garage RML14 Post Office as C51 They still produce the RML8 Accessories pack split up as individual items C73 Stocks, C76 War memorial, C77 Pub sign and horse through, C78 Signpost and stile Edited January 3, 2021 by Butler Henderson RML6 added 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 We've got to be careful when saying things are "underscale" regarding the church without knowing it's prototype. Something which has been aimed at the Airfix Church for decades. But the Airfix/now Dapol church is correct. It really is small. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_St_Boniface_Church,_Bonchurch Jason 2 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Triang Pylons were used in a 1967 episode of Captain Scarlet and the mysterons. Episode Place of the angels, in a dam complex. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Michael Delamar said: Triang Pylons were used in a 1967 episode of Captain Scarlet and the mysterons. Episode Place of the angels, in a dam complex. Oooh... I hadn't spotted that! I usually play the good old "Spot The Airfix Kit In The Gerry Anderson Production Game" (I know Triang Big-Big stuff gets used extensively in 'Last Train to Buffers Halt' in the Secret Service). 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 That dam is very reminiscent of the Hoover Dam, in the USA... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 The 2021 catalogue illustration looks very familiar - from 1971... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoingUnderground Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) Not sure where to post this, but when I saw the cover of the 2021 Hornby catalogue, I had a strange feeling of "deja-vu". A quick flick back through my old Triang catalogues showed I was right. The picture is Cuneo's "Evening Star" which was used on the cover of the 17th edition/1971 catalogue, back in Triang Hornby days. There has been some "editing" though, as both telegraph poles have been moved to be closer to the loco, otherwise they would have been out of shot as the 17th edition cover was landscape format. Otherwise it looks unchanged. 1971 was the year that Triang announced the Evening Star, R.861, at the then unheard of price of £8-0-0, that's £8.00 in new money, 1971 was also the year we went decimal. Edited January 5, 2021 by GoingUnderground 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) Its a completely appropriate cover as edition sixty seven contains a completely retooled range of 9F locos, including Evening Star. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/160550-Hornby-2021-9f-new-tooling/&tab=comments#comment-4259985 The hint was that the loco on the cover had moved on... So has the price, a little more than £200 dearer than the 1971 price! Edited January 5, 2021 by Hroth 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon King Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) The process for producing commercial photography back in the sixties was very expensive which meant only a few shots were taken for each catalogue. Rovex never really envisaged the long term aspects for creating an archive and after a while would dispose of these colour masters . Fortunately Richard Lines managed to save some of the best photos . The following photos show the process in reverse from publication to the studio master colour transparency. Edited February 12, 2021 by Pylon King 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurenceb Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 What is in front of the Nellie in the right foreground? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, laurenceb said: What is in front of the Nellie in the right foreground? A 4 wheel lowfit(ish) wagon with an upturned car chassis on it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurenceb Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 That's why I cant make any sence of it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 That looks like the chassis of the rather rare MINIX no.15 Vauxhall Cresta estate. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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