Bachmann announcements - 2011

[Oakydoke]

Perhaps the most significant thing in terms of developments is the removable panel on the Class 350 to access the DCC decoder socket. Well done Bachmann. Now please roll that out on all new models.

Someones listenening then?

At last, the first British model to have easy access for DCC installation (or removal - for those strange types ), instead of having to dismantle or take off the body.

Still, there's some manual light switching, via the removeable roof panel; which suggests it's still not available to configure all the lights via DCC.

[Dukedog]

This is another thread "theme" that I don't normally respond to BUT,

 

The release of the "Dukedog" has even got me frothing!

I MUST have the locomotive that I used for my user name on all the forums, It would be so wrong not to have one.

It's a little bit out of period for my layout, most of them were gone by the early 60's but what the hell I just GOT to have one!

It will have to be one of the BR black versions though as they are the ones I remember for real.

[37403]

overall im quite happy with the 2011 listings although i find it strange that Bachmann are doing 25279 again although weathered.surely a different running number should be done!

 

one of the wagons that i dont see much mention of is the lack of salmon engineers wagon.these wagons ran for many years and through a good number of eras.im aware cambrian do the kit but would this not sell well as a ready to run?i know many people that would agree.

 

any thoughts?

 

37403

[zigzag]

Not a bad little announcement overall.

 

Bit disappointed no mention of the Cl40 retool, maybe hopefully that will sneak inlater during the year, and thought there might have been more reliveries.

 

Weathered Mk1 maroons - good, but not the full range of types - bad.

 

The SECR 0-6-0 will look very pretty. hopefully will sell well and lead to more developments of a similar nature.

 

And finally, please please sell the chassis upgrades separately.

[Charlie]

Hurrah! More pre-grouping liveried loco's That can only be a good thing, specially with how well the GCR O4 seems to have done. As for the 0-6-0 dilemma, they seem to be taking each region in turn so can we assume a re-tooled J39 next year maybe? Not sure why everyone keeps asking about the class 40, it was announced last year so why were people expecting it to be announcedat this event?

 

I too hope the chassis' come separately, especially the A4, though that in part is hoping to replace a doddery Hornby one, though not sure how well they'll go together.

[nnich]

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There's not much if anything new on the steam front that fits my period - whilst the weathered N class is DCC fitted presumably it still has a split chassis and no 8-pin plug. Presumably the same goes for the BR(W) 45xx and Ivatt 2-6-2T since they are not listed as DCC Ready. Worth a look when they appear, though, in case the factory has done it anyway (as it did with the Jinty).

 

 

The Bachmann 'N' is not, and never has been, a split chassis design. To the contrary if memory serves me correctly it was the very first of the new improved Blue Riband range. Given a small enough decoder - Digitrax DZ123 / 125 for example it has always been quite simple to chip it. It has not however been supplied with an 8 pin socket before. Time will tell if it is this time. The 45xx is also not a split chassis design, although regrettably the Ivatt 2-6-2T is

 

Norm

[Ed-farms]

Regarding the 40, as this is a list of new models (including repaints) the 40 will not feature as it has already been announced, perhaps that explains why it is absent. Have to wait and see what the catalogue brings in a few days/weeks.

[RogerE]

The scenic GC station buildings, hopefully, indicates that there might be more GC stock in the future: a Director makes sense, but with Bachman's love of 0-6-0s perhaps we will be seeing a PomPom?

[The Stationmaster]

 

The release of the "Dukedog" has even got me frothing!

I MUST have the locomotive that I used for my user name on all the forums, It would be so wrong not to have one.

It's a little bit out of period for my layout, most of them were gone by the early 60's but what the hell I just GOT to have one!

It will have to be one of the BR black versions though as they are the ones I remember for real.

 

No doubt for me - I once spent a good part of a family holiday dragging my dad round a goodly chunk of Wales looking for 9017 (the only one in traffic at that time) and not only did we find it one day on Aberystwyth shed but it also assisted our train home between Dovey Jcn and Talerddig summit - where I captured a part view of it on film as we went past. Nostalgia writ large for me

[Ed-farms]

Just noticed on Bachmann's website the new 105's and the Derby Lightweight are down as "DCC 8+6" which means they have an 8 pin in the loco and 6 pin in the trailer. Hopefully the 6pin will be easy to get at - it is a nightmare to get the bodies off to chip them.

[coachmann]

Imagine how a young lad from Lancashire felt when he arrived on his own at Afon Wen in 1955, and waggling across the junction towards me was a 'Dukedog'. The station was chocolate & cream and I thought, great, a typical GWR engine too. My head was out the leading coach window all the way just watching those outside rods. A few years later I realized just how fortunate I had been.

 

So yes, its one for me too just for the happy memories of the Cambian Coast line.

[7013]

I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that Dukedogs could be seen pulling the Coast to Coast express on the GWR leg, which gives me an ideal excuse for purchase as I am modelling a station on that line.

[Guest Max Stafford]

Looking at Bachmann's recent and announced projects, I would bet money on the LNER 0-6-0 taking the form of an ex-GC J11. Not one I can honestly use, but sure to be a hit since the bulk of LNER modellers doubtless reside in the south and the East Midlands. Although you can operate them around Manchester too, I think.

 

Dave.

[Dukedog]

Imagine how a young lad from Lancashire felt when he arrived on his own at Afon Wen in 1955, and waggling across the junction towards me was a 'Dukedog'. The station was chocolate & cream and I thought, great, a typical GWR engine too. My head was out the leading coach window all the way just watching those outside rods. A few years later I realized just how fortunate I had been.

 

So yes, its one for me too just for the happy memories of the Cambian Coast line.

 

My sentiments exactly.

Same era, same happy memories, same motive power only my usual location was Barmouth and my home location was "the Black Country"

[Lord Summerisle]

With regards to the polybulk, it would seem that it's the earlier version built in the mid seventies, I believe that this version might never been engaged in grain traffic (though I await being corrected). It's perhaps not quite as iconic wagon as the longer grainflow or scottish malt distillers versions (which are actually quite different from each other), but they have had a considerably longer working life in the UK (the others ending up on the continent in the early 1990s I think) as well as a wider variety of liveries. They also worked in Cornwall on china clay traffic as well, so understandably are likely to be a good seller on the basis of the popularity of modelling that area. They'll also nicely complement the upcoming clay tigers and JIA from Kernow/Dapol.

[The Stationmaster]

I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that Dukedogs could be seen pulling the Coast to Coast express on the GWR leg, which gives me an ideal excuse for purchase as I am modelling a station on that line.

Yes, but possibly not post-war?

[Ozexpatriate]

This is a terrific announcement by Bachmann Branch Line. Given that they are working on the 3F 0-6-0, the Midland Pullman and the LMS twins, I wasn't expecting a lot of new announcements, and to see both the Dukedog and SE&CR Class C 0-6-0 is fabulous.

 

'We the enthusiasts' have been hammering away about tender 0-6-0s for the last couple of years. Here we have not only the 3F, but a SE&CR C class too! Yes, lots of people want something that starts with a J followed by 2 digits, but the C class is a nice choice. It's a lovely locomotive.

 

As to the Dukedog, I'm thrilled to see something new for the GWR. Personally, I haven't decided whether I will pre-order one. I presume it will be in unlined green with the Collett shirtbutton, rather than a Hawksworth livery. I couldn't tell from the thread so far; does anyone know?

 

What excites me the most is that despite the prevailing wind towards nationalisation models, here we have not only a grouping era model, but a pre-grouping era model as well. I hope Bachmann is rewarded for their choice by outstanding sales.

 

Great news that the Dukedog will be available, at last a Great Western branch-line 4-4-0 to modern standards. (Maybe we will see some Toplights after all !).

 

I thought the Collet Goods looks strange with the ROD tender behind. I wonder how many ran like that? - My copy of GW engines, makes no reference, but not to worry. I assume this is the split chasis version, rather than a brand new loco.

 

Good news also to see the Collett coaches back into the 1930's GW roundel livery.

Well, I had indeed hoped for a new livery for the Collett coaches, but no shirtbuttons for me. I congratulate you sir. I'm with you on the Churchward toplights. Early Collett chocolate and cream with crests please!

 

The Dukedog makes a welcome appearance - the GW version is obviously aimed at GW modellers in order to get them out of their DC world , or either as a booster to selling blanking plugs... dilbert

I did think the choice to make the GWR version the 'DCC one' was a curious choice by Bachmann. Hopefully it's not the kiss of death for this release.

 

One can hardly expect that modellers of the GWR (who must have some attraction for a certain conservatism and something dependably constant in a changing world - the GWR even named a locomotive "Lode Star" for crying out loud) would live on the cutting edge.

 

Perhaps it is indeed a nefarious scheme to unload their inventory of DCC blanking plates!

[HullCityB17]

Going by Bachmann's New Range Announcement at least I will saving a lot of money as I won't be paying anything which is good. Apart from awaiting for the Nuclear Flasks Wagons & the new Class 40 to which I heard a rumour (which it is only just a rumour) that these will not be available until Next Year. I hope this is NOT true as I was also disappointed by Hornby's Catalogue. Still on the plus side if all issues are resolved on their New Class 31's then I will be happy when the Regional Railways 31 is release (if they get the name issue sorted too :-).

 

Over the past year I have had to cancel both Hornby & Bachmann items either due to the manufacturers not stocking the items any more or to save costs & so I can buy them at a later date in my local model shop. One Bachmann item that I might have to cancel as I was lead to believe it would be available as DCC Available & Not DCC Fitted is the Blue Pullman in Nanking Blue. I will need to look into this as I am not willing to fork out for a DCC Chip that I will never need & it will be easier & cheaper to buy it from a Model Shop nearer to me that has already removed it.

 

I know some DCC chips should work with most DC controllers but I don't want to take the risk of damaging a loco or controller.

 

I know Bachmann want this to be a top quality model, but come on why no DC model?

[Sylvian Tennant]

I don't care what anybody says.... I feel alot of this has been long awaited for by myself.

[Peter Bedding]

..........I am rescued at last on the Class N, although it will go immediately to the paint shop to remove the vestiges of Fabian socialism. I have been repeatedly loosing E-Bay and Vectis bids on old N Class models. The SECR Class C may find a home subbing for a LSWR Black motor.

 

I too have just obtained a pair of Cambrian 25 Ton Brake Vans....At least I hope Chivers proposed LSWR outside braced vans are not likely to show up in the RTR.

 

And yes the Dukedog shall grace my piddling Padstow occasionally. Most of my wallet is going to Kernow anyway for BTW's and O2's.

 

I was dismal after the Hornby announcement. But this is a delight. (Sorry about that for all my distant relations who live in Lincolnshire.)

 

Hello Autocoach

 

I share your sentiments. I would have liked to see Bachmann reproduce the N Class with a more favourable livery...

 

 

It runs as good as it looks, and for the curious it has an internal TCS chip.

 

I'm not sure yet about the Dukedog, rationing applies.

 

PB

[Fat Controller]

With regards to the polybulk, it would seem that it's the earlier version built in the mid seventies, I believe that this version might never been engaged in grain traffic (though I await being corrected). It's perhaps not quite as iconic wagon as the longer grainflow or scottish malt distillers versions (which are actually quite different from each other), but they have had a considerably longer working life in the UK (the others ending up on the continent in the early 1990s I think) as well as a wider variety of liveries. They also worked in Cornwall on china clay traffic as well, so understandably are likely to be a good seller on the basis of the popularity of modelling that area. They'll also nicely complement the upcoming clay tigers and JIA from Kernow/Dapol.

They were briefly used in grain traffic- the wagons which worked to Switzerland/Italy with china clay were backloaded with wheat for animal feed to Pinhoe, near Exeter.

Apart from china clay traffic to Europe, Stoke and Mossend, they have been used on other traffic, including lime (Peak District to Mossend), petroluem coke (this was for a cement works, but I can't remember which) and urea from Kings Lynn to Duxford.

They're still used for silicon (French Alps to Cadoxton) -NACCO livery and lime to Mossend (VTG grey). There are almost certainly other traffics I haven't mentioned- a very useful wagon, spanning the period from 1974 to now. If only I hadn't already built seven of the little dears....

[7013]

Would the forthcoming 3F and the Wainwright C share similar chassis dimensions driving wheel diameter etc.?

[coachmann]

Would the forthcoming 3F and the Wainwright C share similar chassis dimensions driving wheel diameter etc.?

Nowhere near. The MR was wedded to 8' X 8' 6" coupled w.b. while the SE&CR 'C' class was at the opposite end of the bar with quite a compact wheelbase.

[kebwight]

Duke Duke Duke Duke of Earl........

 

Enough R&B (ok it was Chicago R&B not Motown)

 

I am rescued at last on the Class N, although it will go immediately to the paint shop to remove the vestiges of Fabian socialism.

 

I am a new poster to this site - so hello all. I just wish to comment on the use of the terms like "Fabian socialism" as this smacks of a political view point. Surely, we are engaged in a 'hobby' and not providing political platforms (forgive the pun)for any uninformed prejudice.

 

Our hobby is one place, whether we are right or left in our political views, we can share a common love of model railways. So let us please keep to the topic. Anyhow, for myself, I have to say a "well done" to Bachmann. I feel that have chosen a very well thought out path.

[Mod2]

I am a new poster to this site - so hello all. I just wish to comment on the use of the terms like "Fabian socialism" as this smacks of a political view point.

 

Hi and welcome. Two points - we do have forum rules about politics, if you are ever concerned about them in a topic, then use the Report button (at the bottom left of each post) and let us handle things rather than sidetrack an existing discussion. Secondly, I've edited your post to make it more obvious which bit is your contribution - misquoting and lack of clarity can in itself lead to misunderstandings.

 

Cheers.