robmcg Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I am totally a child at Christmas now, waiting for MY present via courier here in NZ., 6 days after despatch... (often it's double that, but sometimes ....) I even have in mind a photo angle for this model, based around the fireman leaning out of cab, as so often they seem to have been when in service! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 No sooner wished, than granted! A parcel thrown at my back door not 90 minutes ago, I have photographed the parcel and un-wrapping to assure those who are wavering, about Hattons' pavckaging, and the model. It's a two-hand lift to move the engine about safely... I managed to get the front section fallen on its side because of ineptitude but no apparent damage. All bits look ok but haven't run it or inspected it thoroughly yet, of joy! 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted March 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2014 No sooner wished, than granted! A parcel thrown at my back door not 90 minutes ago, I have photographed the parcel and un-wrapping to assure those who are wavering, about Hattons' pavckaging, and the model. It's a two-hand lift to move the engine about safely... I managed to get the front section fallen on its side because of ineptitude but no apparent damage. All bits look ok but haven't run it or inspected it thoroughly yet, of joy! Img_3417_1a_r800.jpg Img_3421_1a_r800.jpg Img_3422_1a_r800.jpg Img_3424_1a_r800.jpg Img_3426_1a_r800.jpg Img_3428_1a_r800.jpg Img_3430_1a_r800.jpg Img_3432_1a_r800.jpg Img_3434_1a_r800.jpg Typical DoG has to get in on the act Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) Indeed the Duke has been well-and-truly overshadowed. (There's a spamcan pic in the computer just started too... 34086, coming along ...) but meanwhile, YES!!! Edited March 5, 2014 by robmcg 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted March 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2014 Did yours arrive Colin ? Yes Tony, Arrived Monday. Will have to wait until my next visit home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I wonder when the first one will end up on eBay..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black5f Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) ######. My mate pre ordered one of these 2 years ago. I suppose it's about to arrive on his door step. Why is the worlds biggest Garrat fan grumpy? Because he asked me to convert it to EM, and I said I would. Well, when I say EM, I mean origional EM, 18mm to run on a model of Wellingborough London road bult from the map. T :-( Edited March 6, 2014 by black5f Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) I received mine on Tuesday. The model is superb and arrived in Australia with no damage. The pony truck brakes are made from a flexible type of engineering plastic, so they can take quite a bit of rough treatment. When I went to put the tension lock couplers in the spares box, I noticed that they were cranked. (sound of alarm bells ringing) So my only criticism is that the NEM pockets are the wrong height. This is an issue for me as I don’t use tension lock coupler, as I prefer the Kadee coupler. This seems to hark back to the bad old days of Bachmann where the model is supplied with a cranked tension lock coupler to bring the tension lock coupler back to the correct height. I would have thought that a European manufacturer such as Heljan, who are familiar with the NEM pocket would have pointed out this error at the design stage. This has taken the shine off the model as I now have to modify the locomotive to fit Kadee couplers, with the now added risk of breaking some of the fine detail. Edited March 6, 2014 by Darth Vader Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 And they said it would never be done. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) inspired by photo by F R Hebron p11 Irwell's Book of the LM Garratts... a quick version without scenery, no doubt more photos by me to follow. It is a lovely lovely model... Congratulations Hattons, congratulations Heljan. Edited March 6, 2014 by robmcg 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted March 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2014 I model BR WR but one of these might find it's way on a interregional working lol. Just because I can haha. Bring on the dirty BR versions 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I model BR WR but one of these might find it's way on a interregional working lol. Just because I can haha. Bring on the dirty BR versions Yes in BR Days they went over the Lickey and made it as far as Severn Tunnel Junction. Tony 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Img_3434_1a_r800.jpg Can anything be done with the huge clump of wires hanging down underneath the Loco? Ruins the whole effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted March 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2014 Yes in BR Days they went over the Lickey and made it as far as Severn Tunnel Junction. Tony Did they really? More information,please,including sources..Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) Did they really? More information,please,including sources..Thanks. Ian, I remember either reading it or possibly hearing this from Bob Essery once. They regularly worked to Washwood Heath from Toton but occasionally worked through. If it is written down I have no idea where now! Tony Edit typo Edited March 6, 2014 by Rail-Online Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Did they really? More information,please,including sources..Thanks. Don't know about them getting to STJ, but I have a photo's of them at Gloucester and they are rumoured to have gone as far south as Westerleigh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Don't know about them getting to STJ, but I have a photo's of them at Gloucester and they are rumoured to have gone as far south as Westerleigh. Hi JZ, What was at Westerleigh? If it was an exchange yard I have never heard of it. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Hi JZ, What was at Westerleigh? If it was an exchange yard I have never heard of it. Tony Westerleigh Sidings. Around a dozen sidings on both the up and down sides. Many Brum - Bristol freights would start or terminate there. Four boxes. Closed 1965. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted March 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2014 Thanks,gents,for that information on Garratt wanderings.Now what we really need are early 50's copies of Trains illustrated's "Motive Power Miscellany"...always a mine of up-to-date information on loco workings.I was under the mistaken impression that Washwood Heath was the limit of their operations.One class of engines I never saw....they became extinct when I was 14 or thereabouts.Derby and the Midland mainline were exotic territory for a Valleys boy.Temple Meads and Shrewsbury were the spotting frontiers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Hi JZ, What was at Westerleigh? If it was an exchange yard I have never heard of it. Tony Yes it was, now an oil terminal and the M4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdaley Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I wonder when the first one will end up on eBay..... There was one for sale but it was later removed because of some problem with the photo's used in the listing. I think it was going for £249 or something like that. I received mine on Tuesday. The model is superb and arrived in Australia with no damage. The pony truck brakes are made from a flexible type of engineering plastic, so they can take quite a bit of rough treatment. When I went to put the tension lock couplers in the spares box, I noticed that they were cranked. (sound of alarm bells ringing) So my only criticism is that the NEM pockets are the wrong height. This is an issue for me as I don’t use tension lock coupler, as I prefer the Kadee coupler. This seems to hark back to the bad old days of Bachmann where the model is supplied with a cranked tension lock coupler to bring the tension lock coupler back to the correct height. I would have thought that a European manufacturer such as Heljan, who are familiar with the NEM pocket would have pointed out this error at the design stage. This has taken the shine off the model as I now have to modify the locomotive to fit Kadee couplers, with the now added risk of breaking some of the fine detail. Are the coupler pockets low or high ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 If the pockets are high in similar degree to the 'Bachmann error', that is roughly 2mm overheight; screwing one of the NEM fitting Kadees directly to the underside of the pocket may be the simplest solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 If the pockets are high in similar degree to the 'Bachmann error', that is roughly 2mm overheight; screwing one of the NEM fitting Kadees directly to the underside of the pocket may be the simplest solution. To do this would require cutting way one of the supports for the brakes on the pony truck. My solution was to use a #146 shank and file the end until it fits in the NEM pocket. I added a some packing to make it a tight interference fit, Once the aliginment and hieght were correct, a dab of Araldite to hold the coupler in place. Will find out tomorrow whether it works, after the glue has hardened fully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black5f Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 A fellow bear buddy used to fire them, I'll ask him what his routes were. I keep telling him to write it all down. They used to get stuck a lot, Midland policy endured, add wagons till it wouldn't move then take one off. He has a story about getting stuck across the level crossing at Wellingborough London Road. T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) Can anything be done with the huge clump of wires hanging down underneath the Loco? Ruins the whole effect. You could devise tape or trunking to reduce the size of the offence, but otherwise I cannot see any way to make wiring invisible there. The main thing about this engine to me is the beautiful standard of modelling generally, (those chain couplings need to go!) and that because I have just one useful hand I have great difficulty moving it... lifting it bit-by-bit onto a breadboard or book in order to do anything with it. Turning it upside down will need two hands or a very complex soft roll onto strategically-placed material! In the meantime I will adapt pictures of it. My modest reading about the class gives geographical limits of Cricklewood or West Hampstead, also seen a few times in 1956 at Harrow and Wealdstone, ...Rowsley, York, Peterborough and various other points east of the Midland main line which others might suggest. But I'm only quoting Irwell's book here. Edited March 6, 2014 by robmcg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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