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Does anyone have a shot of 37008 in Red Stripe Railfreight, with "Hornet" names, BEFORE its smash-up?

That was too easy, quick search of google and flickr for "37008 hornet" :

http://www.martinbray-ukloco.com/images/class37/37008-tinsley-080588.jpg (need a 37, try Martin Bray)

Loads of this same side on flickr but this is the only one of the other end

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/3403945359/

Getting the other side was a greater challenge

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adogriff/5102711191/

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That was too easy, quick search of google and flickr for "37008 hornet" :

http://www.martinbra...sley-080588.jpg (need a 37, try Martin Bray)

Loads of this same side on flickr but this is the only one of the other end

http://www.flickr.co...N02/3403945359/

Getting the other side was a greater challenge

http://www.flickr.co...iff/5102711191/

 

Very nice, but I've had those shots for years.

 

The question was; Does anyone have any shots of 37008, in Red-Stripe Railfreight, WITH ITS "HORNET" NAMES, before its smash-up.

 

None of those pics fit the bill - not SO easy, huh?

 

Thanks anyway.

 

Ron.

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And here is 37065 at Sheffield in June 1985 showing that it had 2 different fronts at the same time

 

Phew! This thread is good, but becoming a little hard to trawl through.

 

37065 wasn't the only one to have different front ends at the same time.

 

First, here's another of 37065, taken at Thornaby, 30th May 1986. Not a great photo, but at least it shows both ends are different.

 

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Now for two pictures of 37102 at Tyne Yard, also on 30th May 1986, from each end. This was a split headcode version that was given one plain front following accident repair.

 

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Ah, a nice pic of 37102 there. IIRC this became the beast that is/was 37712 being a former local engine for me a model of this is required as it will come in handy for working steel services into my works.

 

On another note I'm finding this thread very interesting with lots of nice pics of locos. Not sure if it has been mentioned before (haven't been through all of the thread) but like other things class 37 nose ends are a minefield of differences. For example the prototype of my 37/9 has two different types and as such I have replicated this on the model.

 

Look forward to following this one.

 

Cheers

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Loving the extra high cut outs at one end!

 

Im sure there were others that had similar mods, and maybe one or two that had some of the low level tumblehomes removed too?

 

Here's a few more -

 

Droopy nosed 680 at RY:

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885 and 109 also at RY: (Note the square buffers on 885)

 

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678 again at RY:

 

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nice to see this thread still going ..great selection big-T ..I.took this one the other week of the RHTT train at Colchester..clearly see the multi-jumper and pipes for muti working with rear loco through train..

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Cheers YVM!

 

A quick question - has 610 lost an axlebox cover on the first wheelset or is it a modified one?!

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Got a feeling it's the speedo drive Trev, those with it seem to be lacking the standard 37 dangly cable type

 

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Got a feeling it's the speedo drive Trev, those with it seem to be lacking the standard 37 dangly cable type

 

jo

 

I did wonder if it was Jo - however it doesn't seem to have any cabling emanating from it?

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A couple more for a miserable Monday morning!

 

37503 at Norden:

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37377 at Rugby

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37029 and 379:

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Cheers YVM!

 

A quick question - has 610 lost an axlebox cover on the first wheelset or is it a modified one?!

 

Only a guess but I am guessing it is some kind of mileometer device, but it's accuracy would depend on being set to the tyre thickness. The axlebox cover is in place because it is the yellow painted bit.

 

I think the class 37 speedo was driven from the inner (3rd) axle of the bogie.

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Oooh now this is getting confusing!

Whilst researching 37038 in DRS condition, I was told it was a speedo. This loco doesn't have a standard speedo on the no.2 bogie, so this figured.

However, 37610 has both this device on the no.1 bogie, and a standard speedo on the no.2 bogie. Hmmmmm

Assuming they are both speedos, I wonder if 610 had a bogie swap at one end, and one of the speedos is fitted but not wired up?

 

jo

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Only a guess but I am guessing it is some kind of mileometer device, but it's accuracy would depend on being set to the tyre thickness. The axlebox cover is in place because it is the yellow painted bit.

 

I think the class 37 speedo was driven from the inner (3rd) axle of the bogie.

 

 

Not sure about it being an odometer - do DRS charge by the mile?!!!!

 

The speedo is usually on the inner axle next to the fuel tank - you can see it on 503:

 

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Loving the extra high cut outs at one end!

 

Im sure there were others that had similar mods, and maybe one or two that had some of the low level tumblehomes removed too?

 

 

019 at one end had a cut back nose, as did 373 at both ends. 102 was converted back to standard when refurbished, but still retains the odd tail lights.

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As this thread has had a resurgence of interest, can I add a few of my old pictures?

They mostly date from the early 1980s, nearly all rail blue.

I don't know if any of them show anything rare or unusual, if nothing else some of them

will give some inspiration for spot of weathering.

 

 

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Chester, 37402 on the Crewe Works Test Train, 16/7/85.

 

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Lawrence Hill Bristol, 37071 arrives L//D ex Bath Road to work 7C62M Lawrence Hill - Severn Tunnel Junction, 6/5/80

 

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37207 stands in the loco yard at Westbury, sister loco 37224 was equally work stained, 26/4/80.

 

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37304 stabled in Pantyffynon Yard, 24/6/82.

 

cheers

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Love the photo of 37116 in ll without the cutaway bufferbeam and round buffers . Also noticed we have shot`s of it from both sides. One question, how lng did it stay like that? As the photo shows it next to a tug it mush have been one of the last like that.

 

Cheesysmith

 

TI tractors rule. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_laugh_mini.gif https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_diablo.gif

 

PS- any more photos of said machine?

 

37116 was inbdeed the last 37 to ratain original buffer beam skirts. It kepts these until overhaul in 1996 when Transrail B#stardised it then decided to retain round buffers and paint it Banger Blue!! Subsequently in preservation 003/009/037/119(350)/240 have all had buffer beam skirts re-instated (with varying success!). I believe that 057 & 248 are either re-gaining skirts or in the process of.

 

Not that 102/712 in previous pictures has round tail lights on one end.

 

And lastly, one close to my heart that appears to be missing - 37075 has split boxes with plated over doors one end, and a totaly flush front at the other. I am not on my computer at the moment so cannot post any of my images, however at some point i'll drop one in!

 

Al.

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On 03/11/2009 at 13:06, yellowvanman said:

Two more from Crewe works 1986...37030 under referb into 37701 and 37693 all done ( my brother PCM has done a cracking model of this one ..see Llanbourne ..1980s north Wales..in layouts..cheers .

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https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_11_2009/post-6833-12572535215674.jpg

 

As a result of buying Bachmann 37906 I noticed it has two "things" above the head code.  I then noticed the same things on some of the 3769x locos ( lower photo above).  I had not really noticed them before and initially I wondered if they were connected to the conversion to 37/5s.  Looking at more photos I see they were not restricted to 37/5s.

 

A few questions then.

 

What were they for?

 

Did all 37s originally have them?

 

Why do some have them and many, (most?) don't by the mid 80s?

 

Did a higher proportion of 37/5s have them and if so was there a reason for that?

 

Thanks

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Headboard clips, I think?

If they are, then they are a feature which probably fell out of use through the '70s and into the '80s as even famous-named trains stopped carrying headboards and less of them would be cl.37-hauled anyway.

No idea if there was any rhyme or reason (e.g. regional preference) to fitting, or indeed removal (I only have basic knowledge of them)

 

EDIT: thought it might be to do with different build lots, but on looking at earlier pics, I don't think so. a nice spread of late '60s/early '70s pics on BrushVeteran's Flickr - https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157627818608793/

 

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Check the loco original allocation. I think the clips above the boxes may be for the locos originally allocated to the WR. 

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Once you add in lamp irons and headboard clips as variables were any two the same?????

 

Hee hee

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