MRDBLUE17 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just wanted to add my thanks to Michael for his helpful support and information regarding a kit I was interested in. As a result of this I was able to purchase the kit which was sent very quickly. I will look forward to building it. thanks Mark 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel W Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 I'd also like to thank Mike for his help whilst I was building one of his North Brititish shunters as my first attempt at loco kit building. He answered my questions patiently, despite no doubt looking on aghast as I made a complete hash of his lovely kit! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted October 4, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2020 Don't run yourself down, we thought you made an excellent job of it - especially as a first attempt. Glad to have been able to help. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggyforest2 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Hi Michael, is the C14 kit available or if not can I put my name down for one. Regards John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted October 4, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2020 Which C14? This is a bit confusing, if you are referring to the LNER (GC) loco we should have had two available but there was an error on the etch and we could only sell one of the three. More on order for the end of this month or thereabouts and some replacement coupling rods for the two we have. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-A-T Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Hi Could you put me down for an LNER C14 as well please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggyforest2 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Hi Michael, is the C14 kit available or if not can I put my name down for one. Regards John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggyforest2 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Hello Michael, Yes I did mean the LNER GC C14 can I order 2 when you have some available. Regards John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted October 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 5, 2020 15 hours ago, Michael Edge said: Which C14? This is a bit confusing, if you are referring to the LNER (GC) loco we should have had two available but there was an error on the etch and we could only sell one of the three. More on order for the end of this month or thereabouts and some replacement coupling rods for the two we have. Hopefully I can have my name down for a GCR C14 in 4mm scale too Mike. No rush if you have customers queuing! I am happy to be further down the list. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted October 5, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 5, 2020 I think we might have to increase the order for these.... 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Flathead Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Can I be added to the list for an LNER C14 please Mike. Thanks, David. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold trw1089 Posted October 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2020 If I could also be added to the C14 kit list if possible please, it looks stunning! Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted October 12, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2020 I've built up the second test etch of the Stone-Faiveley pantograph today. One or two minor alterations were needed and some parts added, mainly the linkage to keep the head horizontal (not actually working but at least it's there) and the yoke from the air motor. There will be a moulding for the motor itself. Price will probably be the same as the cross arm pan. This was built up as suggested on a block of wood, I don't have another 25kv loco to fit this one on. There will be a 7mm version on the next test etch, it should eb quite a bit easier to assemble in the larger scale. 10 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagonmaster Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Michael Edge said: I've built up the second test etch of the Stone-Faiveley pantograph today. One or two minor alterations were needed and some parts added, mainly the linkage to keep the head horizontal (not actually working but at least it's there) and the yoke from the air motor. There will be a moulding for the motor itself. Price will probably be the same as the cross arm pan. This was built up as suggested on a block of wood, I don't have another 25kv loco to fit this one on. There will be a 7mm version on the next test etch, it should eb quite a bit easier to assemble in the larger scale. That looks good Michael! Is it robust enough to touch and rub along the contact wire on a moving model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Michael Edge said: I've built up the second test etch of the Stone-Faiveley pantograph today. One or two minor alterations were needed and some parts added, mainly the linkage to keep the head horizontal (not actually working but at least it's there) and the yoke from the air motor. There will be a moulding for the motor itself. Price will probably be the same as the cross arm pan. This was built up as suggested on a block of wood, I don't have another 25kv loco to fit this one on. There will be a 7mm version on the next test etch, it should eb quite a bit easier to assemble in the larger scale. I know where there is an AL1.. along with an AL5 and an AL6 which could be available for a trial fit... Baz 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagonmaster Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, Barry O said: I know where there is an AL1.. along with an AL5 and an AL6 which could be available for a trial fit... Baz I know where there are some of those too, along with an AM3, AM4, AM9, AM10 and a 313! ;-) 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 13, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Barry O said: I know where there is an AL1.. along with an AL5 and an AL6 which could be available for a trial fit... Baz I know where there's another AL1 just waiting for the pantographs before it can get built (after 35 years...). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted October 13, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 13, 2020 13 hours ago, Wagpnmaster said: That looks good Michael! Is it robust enough to touch and rub along the contact wire on a moving model? Yes, all our pantographs are surprisingly strong - except possibly the weird thing on the ES1 which is almost impossible to make work. Many have survived being roughly handled or accidentally knocked sideways on exhibition displays. There will be some in our next etch order, probably November. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted October 21, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2020 Apologies for this but following a discussion on the KR Models thread it does seem that I have made a mistake with the Fell cranks. In the absence of the relevant drawing at the NRM I drew the crank shape from a side on photograph, picking on one of the centre ones, and then simply repeated this without thinking. Looking at it again this morning the difference in size is very marked (they are thinner as well) so I've re-drawn them - we'll have to do a supplementary etch for this. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2020 With a file you could turn the driving crank into an outer crank no problemo.. I wonder if this is to do with reciprocating mass? Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted October 21, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2020 Yes, at least they are smaller than the ones in the kit - outer radius and crankpin end are the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Barry O said: With a file you could turn the driving crank into an outer crank no problemo.. I wonder if this is to do with reciprocating mass? Baz It is an interesting situation as I do wonder exactly what was being balanced by adding the extra weight to the driving crank. Presumably there was no reciprocating mass to balance from the drive to the axle (as is the case with a steam engine) because the driving force was rotational. So was the extra weight for 'damping' the changes to the rotational force? (Sorry if this is too OT) PS It is very pleasing to see that some folk actually pay attention when a feature they might have missed during their original design work is brought to their attention. Edited October 21, 2020 by The Stationmaster 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 To my simple mind, it seems that the outer driving wheels only had coupling rods extending inwards, whereas the inner driving wheels had coupling rods extending both outwards and towards the other inner driving wheels. Therefore there was less weight to balance on the outer wheels than the inner. Of course, the coupling rods between the inner driving wheels were later removed. It would make sense to have replaced the inner balance weights with ones similar to the outer ones but I’ve no idea if it was done or not. Given the engineering expertise on the project, I’d be surprised if that wasn’t done. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted October 21, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: It is an interesting situation as I do wonder exactly what was being balanced by adding the extra weight to the driving crank. Presumably there was no reciprocating mass to balance from the drive to the axle (as is the case with a steam engine) because the driving force was rotational. So was the extra weight for 'damping' the changes to the rotational force? (Sorry if this is too OT) PS It is very pleasing to see that some folk actually pay attention when a feature they might have missed during their original design work is brought to their attention. That's puzzling me as well, given that the outer cranks are significantly thinner as well as smaller there would have been a big difference in weight. the cranks look exactly the same in all my photos, no modification appears to have been made - at least nothing visible on the outside. The driven wheels had quill drive so nothing inside the loco would be balanced by what was outside. The photo just posted on the KR thread does (combined with another one I have) suggests that we have identifiable photos of each side - judging by 15227 coupled to 10100. This would mean there was originally a window on both sides, additionally in these photos at Eastbourne in 1951 there are cover plates over the recess where the 150hp engine's exhausts were fitted (but they aren't fitted in the official BR photo). It doesn't appear to have run very long in this condition before the additional grilles were fitted in the side doors and the numbers moved to the main body sides. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arun Sharma Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) On 13/10/2020 at 07:17, Michael Edge said: Yes, all our pantographs are surprisingly strong - except possibly the weird thing on the ES1 which is almost impossible to make work. Many have survived being roughly handled or accidentally knocked sideways on exhibition displays. There will be some in our next etch order, probably November. I would like three of the 7mm S-F single arm pantographs for my stable of 3x 309/1 (Maroon of course) EMUs please Mike Edited October 23, 2020 by Arun Sharma Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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