Wright writes.....

[bbishop]

2 hours ago, jwealleans said:

Thread drift, but have you asked Danny, Bill?   He did rerelease the GER horsebox a few years ago and might still have some.

Thanks Jonathan, good idea.  I'll get out the quill pen.  Bill

[bbishop]

2 hours ago, bbishop said:

Arthur, thank you for the list.  In 1912 there was a transfer leaving Addison Road at 7:09am to the LSWR.  We are replicating it on our model of Southwark Bridge.  Two factors come into play.  There were a number of racecourses on the LSWR (Hurst Park, Sandown Park, Kempton Park, Ascot, Epsom at a pinch) and our model has a horse dock so the nags can have their exercise.  This gives the North Yard operator plenty of work shunting horseboxes across to the south side to become head traffic on Hampton Court trains for the Hurst Park races. 

We have a fair number of horseboxes, but no GER, and of course many of the nags would travel from Newmarket.  Well maybe not for Hurst Park, which was a bit of a bumper track, but there could always be racing at Ascot tomorrow.  

Bill

 

If anyone were to fancy viewing the Southwark Bridge videos, they can be found on the Scalefour website, at Society shows | Scaleforum | 2020 Retrospective | 2020 Show Pages | Southwark Bridge

 

Happy viewing.  Bill

[Tony Wright]

5 hours ago, MJI said:

 

I asked straight away and am already in the queue!

As mentioned, there are still about 40 miscellaneous wagons (built from kits) to be sold. 

 

A few folk have expressed an interest already (one who's dropped out); they're ahead of you, just. 

 

I'm sorry to appear indolent, but I've decided not to bother sorting any more of the wagons out and selling them individually. They'll go as a job lot, or not at all. I'll take an overall picture and ask a fiver each (the cattle wagons have already sold, for a quid each more). They're worth a fiver each for the wheels alone. 

 

Quite honestly, I don't know what some of the wagons are. 

 

Then, it'll be first come, first served. That is, he/she who asked first will be given first refusal, and so on.................

 

Kind regards,

 

Tony. 

Edited November 9, 2021 by Tony Wright
to add something

[Tony Wright]

I hope this doesn't disappoint too many, but all the wagons mentioned have gone.

 

A friend emailed me and has taken the lot! He wasn't sure to begin with, but he's transferred funds and that was that. 

 

The first in the queue expressed an interest in some, and I took a picture for him, but he declined. My friend was second.

 

He's also bought all the Blacksmith clerestory coach kits. All of this is fantastic for me - mass sales, and he'll collect them all personally, so no postage to bother about. 

 

I've tried to keep the correct chronology, with expressions of interest coming in by phone, email and PMs, so I hope no one feels 'annoyed'. I have no wish for a repetition of what happened last time (which, I admit, was down to a fault of mine).

 

I'll be checking through the remaining locos and posting pictures before long.

 

Many thanks once more to all those who've bought the items so far. 

Edited November 9, 2021 by Tony Wright
typo error

[FarrMan]

12 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

A friend emailed me and has taken the lot! He wasn't sure to begin with, but he's transferred funds and that was that. 

That is good news. Though some would be nice to have, I'm glad that they have all gone to a 'good home', and that the previous owner's family have got something out of it.

 

Lloyd

[60027Merlin]

In 1973 I purchased another Wills A2 with the intention of making it into an A1. I ordered more castings from Wills for the longer smokebox and used a new set of brass frames with an MW5 motor and Romford gears. I finished it off as Holyrood being the only Haymarket A1 with the Darlington tender.

 

For reasons I cannot recall I decided to paint it in B.R. blue and then after checking it on a test track put it away in a box as I did not have a layout. Fast forward to 2019 I came across the box and checked to see if the loco could still run. It did and when visiting Tony I took it with me along with some other locos to run on Little Bytham. He noted that Wills only used the banjo dome back then rather than the correct streamlined type. I was going to file it away again when I thought that I should really get some enjoyment from it rather than leave it in splendid isolation. It would be OK as a layout loco even although the DJH kit is much better so it was kept in full view pending action.

 

Two years later, lockdown then provided the opportunity to do something about it. More details were added, including a streamlined dome, plus a complete repaint to bring it up to the late 50s period plus an identity change to Gateshead’s Redgauntlet, a regular visitor to the Waverley. After 48 years it is now being used!

 

It is amazing what a casual comment from Tony can start!

 

Eric

 

 

 

 

[Tony Wright]

1 hour ago, 60027Merlin said:

In 1973 I purchased another Wills A2 with the intention of making it into an A1. I ordered more castings from Wills for the longer smokebox and used a new set of brass frames with an MW5 motor and Romford gears. I finished it off as Holyrood being the only Haymarket A1 with the Darlington tender.

 

For reasons I cannot recall I decided to paint it in B.R. blue and then after checking it on a test track put it away in a box as I did not have a layout. Fast forward to 2019 I came across the box and checked to see if the loco could still run. It did and when visiting Tony I took it with me along with some other locos to run on Little Bytham. He noted that Wills only used the banjo dome back then rather than the correct streamlined type. I was going to file it away again when I thought that I should really get some enjoyment from it rather than leave it in splendid isolation. It would be OK as a layout loco even although the DJH kit is much better so it was kept in full view pending action.

 

Two years later, lockdown then provided the opportunity to do something about it. More details were added, including a streamlined dome, plus a complete repaint to bring it up to the late 50s period plus an identity change to Gateshead’s Redgauntlet, a regular visitor to the Waverley. After 48 years it is now being used!

 

It is amazing what a casual comment from Tony can start!

 

Eric

 

 

 

 

Thanks for showing REDGAUNTLET Eric,

 

I've checked through my files, and I can't have taken a picture of her in her previous incarnation when you brought her down.

 

Ah, yes, making A1s from Wills A2s. I built four such conversions (appearing in Practical Model Railways many years ago). 

 

I still have one (the others having long since been sold and replaced by the much better, full DJH A1 kit).

 

 

With no visible rivets, it best represents a Darlington-built example, as here. The smokebox was turned from thick-walled central heating pipe, with superheater headers from Jamieson. The central footplate and splashers were scratch-built from brass (the splashers are a bit big), and the chassis was scratch-built from brass and fitted with Jamieson cylinders/motion. The double chimney and streamlined dome were commercial castings; from where, I can't recall. I narrowed the tender body, lowered its frontplate and took out the turn-in at the front of the tanks as best I could, first filing off the superfluous beading (Mr Roche led many manufacturers and modellers astray with his 'Enid Blyton' drawings). 

 

The painting/weathering is all mine.

 

 

 

Does she still suit as a 'layout loco'? I hope so, and she still runs beautifully. However, with 16 DJH A1s and a further Pro-Scale example (all of which are far superior, especially with pro-paint jobs) to choose from, she hardly gets used, but I still keep her. Am I in danger of becoming sentimental? 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

Edited November 10, 2021 by Tony Wright
typo error

[Tony Wright]

I have a question, if I may?

 

 

Were any 28XXs ever attached to a large tender, as seen here?  

 

This is how the loco looked when I took it out of its box. 

 

Since my knowledge of matters GWR is scratchy at best, I thought I'd ask the question. 

 

There was, however, a spare tender in the collection. a smaller one.

 

 

I rather fancy the tenders must have got swapped around, and this looks far more-natural. 

 

It's built from a K's kit, though nothing of the mechanism is K's. It actually runs very, very well (yes, I know the worm can be seen, but this locos is over 40 years old!) and pulls anything hung behind it. 

 

A couple of good friends are visiting tomorrow, both of whom are GWR modellers, so they'll be getting 1st refusal on the locos/stock which are left. Don't worry, they're not queue-jumpers - the moment they got wind of this collection, they expressed an interest. 

 

If neither wants this, I'll be asking £50.00 for it.

 

I'll let all know by tomorrow evening. 

 

 

 

[TrevorP1]

44 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

I have a question, if I may?

 

 

Were any 28XXs ever attached to a large tender, as seen here?  

 

This is how the loco looked when I took it out of its box. 

 

Since my knowledge of matters GWR is scratchy at best, I thought I'd ask the question. 

 

There was, however, a spare tender in the collection. a smaller one.

 

 

I rather fancy the tenders must have got swapped around, and this looks far more-natural. 

 

It's built from a K's kit, though nothing of the mechanism is K's. It actually runs very, very well (yes, I know the worm can be seen, but this locos is over 40 years old!) and pulls anything hung behind it. 

 

A couple of good friends are visiting tomorrow, both of whom are GWR modellers, so they'll be getting 1st refusal on the locos/stock which are left. Don't worry, they're not queue-jumpers - the moment they got wind of this collection, they expressed an interest. 

 

If neither wants this, I'll be asking £50.00 for it.

 

I'll let all know by tomorrow evening. 

 

 

I believe 4000 gal tenders behind 28xxs were not unknown but very, very rare. The 3500 gal version is correct and as you say looks right. 

 

3802 (I think) runs with a 4000 gal in preservation (probably for very good practical reasons) but, to me, it looks all wrong.

[Jesse Sim]

1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

 

 

 

Am I in danger of becoming sentimental? 

 

 

 

 

What’s happened to you? You’re not the same impatient old git I remember Tony. 

[Coach bogie]

41 minutes ago, TrevorP1 said:

 

I believe 4000 gal tenders behind 28xxs were not unknown but very, very rare. The 3500 gal version is correct and as you say looks right. 

 

3802 (I think) runs with a 4000 gal in preservation (probably for very good practical reasons) but, to me, it looks all wrong.

It became common in the 1960's when the boundary changes put the northern based ex GWR locos under the LMR who used 4,000 gallon tenders from withdrawn engines behind the 28/38XX.

 

Mike Wiltshire

[Tony Wright]

Thanks to all for letting me know of the safe arrival of their purchases. All are very pleased, even if one of the kits had some bits missing.

 

I try to check that all are complete, but it's not always clear. 

 

What is clear is the question; why do folk open kits' boxes and then lose bits and/or the instructions? There are so many I've come across. Why not open them, check, and then build them, or put them away, complete, for another time?

[Tony Wright]

1 hour ago, Jesse Sim said:

What’s happened to you? You’re not the same impatient old git I remember Tony. 

Old?

 

I bought some glue in a hardware store in Market Harborough today and was asked if I was over 25! 

 

I was wearing a mask. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[APOLLO]

[Jesse Sim]

20 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Old?

 

I bought some glue in a hardware store in Market Harborough today and was asked if I was over 25! 

 

I was wearing a mask. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Oooh please tell us your response. 

[Steamport Southport]

2 hours ago, TrevorP1 said:

 

I believe 4000 gal tenders behind 28xxs were not unknown but very, very rare. The 3500 gal version is correct and as you say looks right. 

 

3802 (I think) runs with a 4000 gal in preservation (probably for very good practical reasons) but, to me, it looks all wrong.

 

It does. The tender came from Swindon Works.

 

http://www.ten.rhrp.org.uk/tens/TenderInfo.asp?Ref=12

 

I think there is a new 3500 gallon tender being built for it.

 

 

 

Jason

[ArthurK]

1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

Old?

 

I bought some glue in a hardware store in Market Harborough today and was asked if I was over 25! 

 

I was wearing a mask. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

You should have said you were part of a protest group and were about to glue yourself to the M25>

ArthurK

[Tony Wright]

11 hours ago, Jesse Sim said:

Oooh please tell us your response. 

It was 'Yes!'

[gwrrob]

1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

It was 'Yes!'

 

At least you didn’t have to show them some proof.

Edited November 11, 2021 by gwrrob
info.

[Jesse Sim]

2 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

It was 'Yes!'

Disappointed, 4/10.
 

Was hoping for more along the lines of “do I look like I’m older then 25 you imbecile….”

 

 

[john new]

14 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

Old?

 

I bought some glue in a hardware store in Market Harborough today and was asked if I was over 25! 

 

I was wearing a mask. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Possibly new staff member and being observed for training. 

[Bucoops]

My friend got ID'd in Waitrose some years back - he was 22.

 

However, the product he was ID'd for was Root Beer....

[dibateg]

I think I would have thanked them profusely!

[simonfish45]

A while ago I bought a bag of Cheesy Quavers, and it flashed up a proof of age check... dangerous things Cheesy Quavers!

[Mike 84C]

Re; tenders behind Western 38's, fired quite a few in their twilight years in the 60's. Never met one with a 4000 gal tender. Not saying it never happened just I never saw it. Neither do I believe that the LMR did tender swaps to keep 38's running, they had loads of class 8's for which they had easy access to spares. I think that is railfan myth. A 38 was a brilliant freight loco but coming from 84C I would say that would'nt I.

  Now the 47's did run with 4000 gal tenders. And some were shedded up in the north of the old WR territory.