73c Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, SHMD said: So that's what "telephone" is in welsh! Kev. You wouldn't half get a shock if you tried to make a call on that 'phone 1 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted September 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Metr0Land said: And for someone with an up to date Welsh layout, this box at Cwmsychbant on A475 near Lampeter Does it stop the hearts of English cottage owners! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, russ p said: Does it stop the hearts of English cottage owners! Only the ones who bought in Wales! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted September 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11, 2020 10 hours ago, russ p said: Does it stop the hearts of English cottage owners! "CLEAR!" 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 On 09/09/2020 at 07:31, rodent279 said: Good guess on my part then! I did wonder what box the S might refer to. Slough didn't occur to me, first place I thought of was Swansea! You need "PT" for Swansea 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Used to do "PT" at skool - never got me anywhere near Swansea ..................... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted September 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11, 2020 4 hours ago, DY444 said: You need "PT" for Swansea I guess with Southall, Slough & Swindon, the S prefixes were taken up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted September 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, rodent279 said: I guess with Southall, Slough & Swindon, the S prefixes were taken up! Plus about another 40 signal boxes beginning with "S". 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMortimer Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 PT stands for Port Talbot, where the power box is located. Brings back memories of many years ago traveling home from University in Swansea screaming out of Port Talbot on a Cardiff bound HST. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 4 hours ago, PhilMortimer said: PT stands for Port Talbot, where the power box is located. Brings back memories of many years ago traveling home from University in Swansea screaming out of Port Talbot on a Cardiff bound HST. For the record the Port Talbot box control area is now considerably reduced and much of its former area has been moved into the new fangled magic fun palace South Wales signalling centre at Cardiff. Some of the moved areas (including Swansea station) do however retain the PT signal prefix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 17 hours ago, PhilMortimer said: PT stands for Port Talbot, where the power box is located. Brings back memories of many years ago ......... One amusing memory for me : Barry was - almost - cut off by snow so we were unable to 'liberate' our loco from the scrapyard and had a 'free' day to explore the Valleys ...... expecting the M4 to have been cleared during the day we were surprised to be stopped by the police when we got to the slip road :- "Where you goin' boys ?" "Barry" "Aw - Motorway's not open yet ...... s'ggest you go back into P'Talbot an' get pissed - then try again later." ( We returned via the Valleys - and probably had a pint or three of Brains Dark back in Barry.) 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Scottish-Exile Posted September 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 Class 800's passing PT 3145 PT 3147 outside Landore depot on the run in to Swansea. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted September 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2020 17 hours ago, PhilMortimer said: Brings back memories of many years ago traveling home from University in Swansea screaming out of Port Talbot on a Cardiff bound HST. Why were you screaming? Bet that freaked out the other passengers! 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMortimer Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, ruggedpeak said: Why were you screaming? Bet that freaked out the other passengers! Have you ever been to Port Talbot? If so, you know why! In reality, this was the days when HST’s still had Valentas and pulling away eastbound from PT, they would always lay on the power. Getting a seat in a coach next to the power car was a treat for the ears! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMortimer Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Scottish-Exile said: 2 Class 800's passing PT 3145 PT 3147 outside Landore depot on the run in to Swansea. I know that curve well. There used to be a great old fashioned Italian Pizza place close by - great food. You could hear the HST’s screaming up the hill from Swansea Station, and then round Landore Curve and out across Morfa viaduct. All changed now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Class 101 used to move freight: 51196 51197 2 241085 by Steven Clements, on Flickr 16 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 17 hours ago, BR(S) said: Class 101 used to move freight: 51196 51197 2 241085 by Steven Clements, on Flickr .....or was the 101 so contaminated with asbestos they needed a barrier wagon before dragging it off for scrap ??!? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Steve Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) The search for Class 13 Master + Slave replacements hits new levels of absurdity! Class 08 No. 08643 is hauled through Bristol Temple Meads by a solitary HST power car 43162 in July 1984 (I presumed it was a working from St Philips Marsh depot with a view to the power car being turned, hence the 08 being manned and under power). Edited March 31, 2022 by SP Steve 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted September 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2020 Talk about the Hare and the Tortoise. That photo beats everything on this thread whilst summing the thread up nicely! Kev. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 5 hours ago, SP Steve said: The search for Class 13 Master + Slave replacements hits new levels of absurdity! Class 08 No. 08643 is hauled through Bristol Temple Meads by a solitary HST power car 43162 in July 1984 (I presumed it was a working from St Philips Marsh depot with a view to the power car being turned, hence the 08 being manned and under power). No tail lamp ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: No tail lamp ? Hi Wickham, Gronks have a red filter in their marker lights and generally display one red and one white light at each end. Gibbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 ..... even when being towed ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jeremy Cumberland Posted September 14, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2020 27 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: ..... even when being towed ? An interesting question. I don't have my 1972 rule book to hand right now, but I was looking at it last night. Shunting locomotives operating round stations needed their red and white lights illuminated. Trains consisting of light engines needed an illuminated red light at the rear, but I am not at all sure whether showing an illuminated white light was permitted, and as I recall the two lights cannot be controlled separately on an 08. However, as an ordinary train (not a light engine movement), there needed to be a tail lamp "in working order" (I forget the precise wording), but it did not need to be illuminated except after dark, in snow, running through tunnels and some other situations. I think the distinction between whether an illuminated red light or a red tail lamp in working order was required really came down to whether the train had a guard. With a light engine movement, the driver was responsible for flicking a switch; with a train, the guard was responsible for hanging a lamp on the back. Here we appear to have a situation where there isn't an appropriate switch to be flicked, and no guard to hang a lamp. At some point (and I think it was before the 1996 rule book, but I don't have a date) the tail lamp rule was changed to say it always needed to be illuminated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) The provision of a red and a white lamp at both ends of a station pilot goes back well into steam days. By day, they looked simply like a Class A (express passenger) headcode and led many an enthusiast to believe he was seeing an 0-6-0T on an express turn when it was simply moving stock within station limits. Going light engine to and from its worksite it would carry a normal headlamp at the leading end and a tail lamp at the trailing, not necessarily above the draw hook; it would not have two lamps each end. https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrJ4NY5g19fxcsAGbaJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBsZ29xY3ZzBHNlYwNzZWFyY2gEc2xrA2J1dHRvbg--;_ylc=X1MDOTYwNjI4NTcEX3IDMgRhY3RuA2NsawRjc3JjcHZpZANTOHF5a1RFd0xqSmhEUF9DWHpPZk1nbmJPVFV1TVFBQUFBQW9GbXZYBGZyA3NmcARmcjIDc2EtZ3AEZ3ByaWQDOWh2VDVXel9RQ2FRWVRjSjlmMXhIQQRuX3N1Z2cDMQRvcmlnaW4DaW1hZ2VzLnNlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20EcG9zAzAEcHFzdHIDBHBxc3RybAMEcXN0cmwDMTYEcXVlcnkDSmludGllcyUyMDAtNi0wVAR0X3N0bXADMTYwMDA5NTA0NQ--?p=Jinties+0-6-0T&fr=sfp&fr2=sb-top-images.search&ei=UTF-8&n=60&x=wrt#id=65&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rail-online.co.uk%2Fimg%2Fs%2Fv-10%2Fp1830679492-4.jpg&action=click https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrJ4NY5g19fxcsAGbaJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBsZ29xY3ZzBHNlYwNzZWFyY2gEc2xrA2J1dHRvbg--;_ylc=X1MDOTYwNjI4NTcEX3IDMgRhY3RuA2NsawRjc3JjcHZpZANTOHF5a1RFd0xqSmhEUF9DWHpPZk1nbmJPVFV1TVFBQUFBQW9GbXZYBGZyA3NmcARmcjIDc2EtZ3AEZ3ByaWQDOWh2VDVXel9RQ2FRWVRjSjlmMXhIQQRuX3N1Z2cDMQRvcmlnaW4DaW1hZ2VzLnNlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20EcG9zAzAEcHFzdHIDBHBxc3RybAMEcXN0cmwDMTYEcXVlcnkDSmludGllcyUyMDAtNi0wVAR0X3N0bXADMTYwMDA5NTA0NQ--?p=Jinties+0-6-0T&fr=sfp&fr2=sb-top-images.search&ei=UTF-8&n=60&x=wrt#id=141&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rail-online.co.uk%2Fimg%2Fs%2Fv-3%2Fp1689109697-4.jpg&action=click https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrJ4NY5g19fxcsAGbaJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBsZ29xY3ZzBHNlYwNzZWFyY2gEc2xrA2J1dHRvbg--;_ylc=X1MDOTYwNjI4NTcEX3IDMgRhY3RuA2NsawRjc3JjcHZpZANTOHF5a1RFd0xqSmhEUF9DWHpPZk1nbmJPVFV1TVFBQUFBQW9GbXZYBGZyA3NmcARmcjIDc2EtZ3AEZ3ByaWQDOWh2VDVXel9RQ2FRWVRjSjlmMXhIQQRuX3N1Z2cDMQRvcmlnaW4DaW1hZ2VzLnNlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20EcG9zAzAEcHFzdHIDBHBxc3RybAMEcXN0cmwDMTYEcXVlcnkDSmludGllcyUyMDAtNi0wVAR0X3N0bXADMTYwMDA5NTA0NQ--?p=Jinties+0-6-0T&fr=sfp&fr2=sb-top-images.search&ei=UTF-8&n=60&x=wrt#id=209&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rail-online.co.uk%2Fimg%2Fs%2Fv-10%2Fp1778124696-4.jpg&action=click Edited September 14, 2020 by LMS2968 Add photo links Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, LMS2968 said: The provision of a red and a white lamp at both ends of a station pilot goes back well into steam days. By day, they looked simply like a Class A (express passenger) headcode and led many an enthusiast to believe he was seeing an 0-6-0T on an express turn when it was simply moving stock within station limits. Not simply "enthusiasts". An error all too common in the supposedly professional railway enthusiast press. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now