Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[DaveF]

Clapham, Floriston and Wreay today.

 

If there is anyone who doesn't know where they are:

 

Clapham viaduct is over the River Wenning in Yorkshire on the line from Settle Junction west to Carnforth and beyond not in London.

 

Floriston is on the WCML north of Carisle whikle Wreay is also on the WCML south of Carlisle.

 

 

Clapham viaduct Aug 79 J6630

 

 

Clapham viaduct Aug 79 J6631

 

 

Clapham viaduct Class 101 and 110 Morecambe to Leeds Aug 79 J6632

 

 

Floriston Class 85 down 11th April 86 C7400

 

 

Wreay Class 81 up freight March 81 C5287

 

 

David

Edited November 7, 2018 by DaveF

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Clapham, Floriston and Wreay photo’s. They are all full of interest and nostalgia. In J6632, at Clapham viaduct, the two units are a class 101 and a class 110 on the service to Morecambe to Leeds in August, 1979. You can tell the second unit is a 110 from the four character head code box, the sloping tops to the outer windscreens, and the raised surrounds to the passenger saloon windows. Also it has RollsRoyce engines.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[keefer]

C5287 - wagons look like PTA tipplers. these were in semi-fixed rakes with tightlock couplers between wagons. At the end with the orange body band, these were rotary couplers so the wagons could be rotated without splitting the train.

(i.e. the fixed coupler on one wagon connected to the rotary one on the next wagon)

The wagons at each end of the rake had normal buffers and screw couplings at one end for coupling to the loco.

 

These were more commonly seen on iron ore flows to steelworks, I don't know if they were used for anything else?

Edited November 7, 2018 by keefer

[Fat Controller]

C5287 - wagons look like PTA tipplers. these were in semi-fixed rakes with tightlock couplers between wagons. At the end with the orange body band, these were rotary couplers so the wagons could be rotated without splitting the train.

(i.e. the fixed coupler on one wagon connected to the rotary one on the next wagon)

The wagons at each end of the rake had normal buffers and screw couplings at one end for coupling to the loco.

 

These were more commonly seen on iron ore flows to steelworks, I don't know if they were used for anything else?

Lime from BSC's quarry at Shap to Ravenscraig steelworks; they used short rakes of 7 or 9 (I forget which) wagons. Later, there was a similar train from Ferryhill, with 'dolofines'.

[DaveF]

Hi, Dave. I like the Clapham, Floriston and Wreay photo’s. They are all full of interest and nostalgia. In J6632, at Clapham viaduct, the two units are a class 101 and a class 110 on the service to Morecambe to Leeds in August, 1979. You can tell the second unit is a 110 from the four character head code box, the sloping tops to the outer windscreens, and the raised surrounds to the passenger saloon windows. Also it has RollsRoyce engines.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

The dmu identification curse strikes again, why didn't I notice the headcode box?

C5287 - wagons look like PTA tipplers. these were in semi-fixed rakes with tightlock couplers between wagons. At the end with the orange body band, these were rotary couplers so the wagons could be rotated without splitting the train.

(i.e. the fixed coupler on one wagon connected to the rotary one on the next wagon)

The wagons at each end of the rake had normal buffers and screw couplings at one end for coupling to the loco.

 

These were more commonly seen on iron ore flows to steelworks, I don't know if they were used for anything else?

 

 

I think they may have been empties to Shap quarries from Ravenscraig.

 

 

Edit - Fat Controller got there first

David

Edited November 7, 2018 by DaveF

[keefer]

Thanks guys, had only seen them on Ravenscraig or Llanwern ore trains before

Edited November 7, 2018 by keefer

[The Border Reiver]

Floriston and Wreay, two of my favourite photo locations in the 1960s

[DaveF]

Once again we visit Radcliffe on Trent and Bottesford this afternoon.

 

 

Radcliffe on Trent 47164 Parkeston Quay to Manchester April 79 J6440

 

 

Radcliffe on Trent 47175 Manchester to Parkeston Quay April 80 J6866

 

 

Bottesford West Junction March 77 J5650

 

 

Bottesford Class 114 Nottingham to Grantham Feb 82 C5625

 

 

Bottesford 47484 Parkeston Quay to Glasgow and Edinburgh 28th Feb 84 C6404

 

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Radcliffe on Trent and Bottesford photo's, which are full of interest. In J6866, with 47175 on a  Manchester to Parkeston Quay service, in April, 1980, it's interesting to see that colour light head on a semaphore post. I haven't seen too many signals so treated.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

Hi, Dave. I like the Radcliffe on Trent and Bottesford photo's, which are full of interest. In J6866, with 47175 on a  Manchester to Parkeston Quay service, in April, 1980, it's interesting to see that colour light head on a semaphore post. I haven't seen too many signals so treated.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

 

There was  a connection  to the Cotgrave branch from the east  forming a triangular junction (i.e. in front of the train).  The signal post used to have a feather above the main aspects.

 

The photo below shows it in October 1975.

 

 

Radcliffe on Trent Class 105 Nottingham to Grantham Oct 75 C2518

 

 

David

Edited November 8, 2018 by DaveF

[great central]

There was a connection to the Cotgrave branch from the west forming a triangular junction (i.e. in front of the train). The signal post used to have a feather above the main aspects.

 

The photo below shows it in October 1975.

 

 

Radcliffe on Trent Class 105 Nottingham to Grantham Oct 75 C2518.jpg

Radcliffe on Trent Class 105 Nottingham to Grantham Oct 75 C2518

 

 

David

David,

I think you mean from the east onto the Cotgrave branch? The western side of the triangle was at Rectory junction, the erstwhile end of Colwick yard. Radcliffe is east of the junction so the picture is looking west. That signal survived until the full resignalling of the area 5 or 6 years ago.

Out of curiosity, do you know if the eastern side of the triangle was ever used? As far as I understand it most if not all of the coal from Cotgrave went west?

 

Edit to clarify.

Edited November 8, 2018 by great central

[DaveF]

David,

I think you mean from the east onto the Cotgrave branch? The western side of the triangle was at Rectory junction, the erstwhile end of Colwick yard. Radcliffe is east of the junction so the picture is looking west. That signal survived until the full resignalling of the area 5 or 6 years ago.

Out of curiosity, do you know if the eastern side of the triangle was ever used? As far as I understand it most if not all of the coal from Cotgrave went west?

 

Edit to clarify.

 

 

You are right - I did mean east, I must have confused it with west facing.  I've corrected my original post.

 

I don't know if it was ever used, Mum and Dad moved to Radcliffe in early 1975, I don't think I ever took photos there before then and I've not found any of Dad's before then looking in that direction.

 

David

[leopardml2341]

J6866 Manchester to Harwich; a typical cross country route.

 

1980 - 10 coaches, perhaps over provided, but nowadays (if there was such a service) would be most likely a 4 coach Artiva Xcountry voyager full and standing all the way. That is what, I think they would have us believe, is called progress?

 

47175; one of TI's pet Brush 4s. It and 47174 used to see a lot of use on Holiday Preview excursions, latterly known as 'Merrymakers'.

Edited November 9, 2018 by leopardml2341

[DY444]

Hi, Dave. I like the Radcliffe on Trent and Bottesford photo's, which are full of interest. In J6866, with 47175 on a  Manchester to Parkeston Quay service, in April, 1980, it's interesting to see that colour light head on a semaphore post. I haven't seen too many signals so treated.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

 

There was  a connection  to the Cotgrave branch from the east  forming a triangular junction (i.e. in front of the train).  The signal post used to have a feather above the main aspects.

 

The photo below shows it in October 1975.

 

 

Radcliffe on Trent Class 105 Nottingham to Grantham Oct 75 C2518.jpg

Radcliffe on Trent Class 105 Nottingham to Grantham Oct 75 C2518

 

 

David

 

Further to this.  That style of post was a common pattern for signals with route indicators in ER resignalling schemes - the signal head mounted on a right angled bracket in front of the post and the junction indicator mounted on top of the post.  I don't know how many are still extant but there were loads at one time (eg in the KX, Peterborough and (former) Sheffield panel areas amongst others).  A very distinctive ER feature, another from the same era being the "scaffolding pole" style gantries.

Edited November 9, 2018 by DY444

[caradoc]

J6866 Manchester to Harwich; a typical cross country route.

 

1980 - 10 coaches, perhaps over provided, but nowadays (if there was such a service) would be most likely a 4 coach Artiva Xcountry voyager full and standing all the way. That is what, I think they would have us believe, is called progress?

 

47175; one of TI's pet Brush 4s. It and 47174 used to see a lot of use on Holiday Preview excursions, latterly known as 'Merrymakers'.

 

That's a perfectly valid point regarding overcrowding on XC services, however on the other hand Harwich/Manchester then was one train per day each way (having been cut back by BR from Liverpool so that one set of stock could operate the round trip); Today the nearest comparable service would be Norwich/Liverpool, which runs hourly throughout the day.

[DaveF]

The far north of Scotland today.

 

Inverness Millburn Junction 2 Class 26 Inverness to Euston The Royal Highlander Aug 73 C1310

 

 

view towards Bonar Bridge Aug 73 C1312

 

 

Invershin Kyle of Sutherland bridge Class 26 down freight Aug 73 C1340

 

 

Georgemas Junction lint to Thurso to right, Inverness to left Aug 73 J3289

 

 

Mid Clyth remains of Lybster branch Aug 74 J3879

 

 

Lybster remains of branch looking towards station Aug 74 J3880

 

 

David

[hmrspaul]

Invershin Kyle of Sutherland bridge Class 26 down freight Aug 73 C1340  Interesting formation with the three Fish vans (which don't appear to be rewritten for parcels traffic) and a single Carflat.

 

Paul

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Scottish photo’s which are so full of stunning scenery. The last two photo’s, J3879, and J3880, at Mid Clyth and Lybster show what little remained of that line by August, 1974. An all too familiar story, sadly. Indeed, by today, I would imagine there will be little if anything left.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Steamysandy]

Lybster and Mid Clyth - I was able to follow the route of the line in 1999 from a bus on the adjacent A9 en route from Orkney via John o Groats to Inverness

Edited November 9, 2018 by Steamysandy

[DaveF]

A few photos taken along the Midland Railway's line from Nottingham to Lincoln for this evening.

 

 

Lowdham Aug 78 J6333

 

 

Gonalston Crossing Class 47 down oil Feb 77 C 3210

 

 

Rolleston MR boundary marker Nov 79 J6689

 

 

Collingham Swinderby Lane crossing Class 47 Kings X to Cleethorpes March 80 J6801

 

 

Collingham Swinderby Lane crossing Class 47 Kings X to Cleethorpes March 80 J6802

 

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Midland Railway photo’s, and in J6802, at Collingham Swinderby Lane crossing, with a class 47 on a Kings Cross to Cleethorpes train, in March, 1980, the Mk1 kitchen car looks very much like an RKB as built by Cravens, 1959 to 1961. They were the only Mk1 catering vehicles that Cravens built.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[uax6]

I often wonder what was in all those jerry cans on the front of the tamper. Was it hydraulic fluid for when they got on site and a hose burst?

 

Andy G

[DaveF]

A visit made in August 1979 to the Lakeside and Haverthwaite Railway in Cumbria for this morning.

 

 

Haverthwaite Fairburn 2-6-4T 2085 NCB Barclay and Peckett Caliban Aug 79 J6616

 

 

Haverthwaite Barclay Alexandria and Peckett Caliban Aug 79 J6617

 

 

Haverthwaite Hudswell Clarke Renishaw No 6 Aug 79 J6618

 

 

Haverthwaite Bagnall Princess Aug 79 J6622

 

 

Lakeside Bagnall Princess Aug 79 J6626

 

 

Lakeside Pier Swan and Swift Aug 79 J6625

 

 

David

Edited November 12, 2018 by DaveF

[DaveF]

An assortment of locations on the ECML between Peterborough and Retford this afternoon, between 1976 and 1979.

 

Burton le Coggles Class 47 down May 78 J6133

 

 

Barkston Class 55 55005 up Sept 76 J5440

 

 

Dry Doddington 47514 up June 79 J6514

 

 

Carlton on Trent Class 254 up Sept 79 J6647

 

 

Gamston Class 31 down June 79 J6518

 

 

David

[SHMD]

What an odd effect in J6647!

 

 

Kev