AngryMeerkat Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Just a couple of questions (admittedly I haven't the time at the moment to research properly)..... Will this run as individual cars, power cars coupled, power cars and test coach only? Or does it have to be coupled as a 4+ car set? Is there a maximum number of orders that can be placed before the April deadline, or will every order placed be honoured? I have absolutely no use for this model, I'm building a small depot layout based in Liverpool. But seeing such an iconic piece of British engineering produced in 4mm scale, with so many working parts (the tilt system is something I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing!) and for such a great price has got me really tempted. The sound version sat idling while some slow action solenoids 'test' the tilt mechanism in the depot is just too tempting!! Best of luck with this project, it sounds fascinating. Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2014 APT-E - whoever would've guessed that? Very interesting that alot of people seem to be thinking of a new layout to accommodate the APT-E so its good news all round for the hobby in general. I've already started building a layout based upon the RTC, but in the present day. This is the excuse I need to backdate it........ Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60800 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) Very pleased with the chosen prototype, I couldn't resist ordering the DCC sound version and have done so, but I am a tad disappointed to learn that the £49.99 for the separate trailer car requires payment up front. Maybe looking at closer to the deadline for ordering that one - can't wait to see a prototype model at Warley. Now there's just the dilemma of rebuild, reprofile and repaint my APT-P, or wait to see if Bachmann or Rapido do one in the next three or four years....... Edited June 24, 2014 by 60800 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ryde-on-time Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2014 Having read the e-mail newsletter I find it refreshing to find a manufacturer stating a clear time-scale for the model. http://www.rapidotrains.com/aptschedule.html Some uk models from other manufacturers seem to have been in the pipeline for years. I think Rapido (along with DJmodels and Realtrack etc) will be good for the hobby and perhaps give the status quo a bit of a boot up the rear! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post geoff Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2014 APT-E approaching Glendon North Junction from Rushton. 10:33 31/7/75. APT-E approaches Glendon North Junction on the down main 13:33 14/4/75. The real thing at large on the Midland Mainline, Glendon North Junction. Will this be the next project? Geoff 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard w Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Been following this with great interest over the past few months. I've ordered one even though its out of my era by about 12 years! Having seen the quality of previous Rapido models I'm very much looking forward to this one. I wish Rapido every success with this new venture and hope it brings future UK models. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 3D scanned exterior for accurate body contours That'll be a world first, then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjgardiner Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 That'll be a world first, then. On this APT-E yes, by Rapido, no. They laser scanned the FPA-4 at Exporail in Montreal a couple of years ago to get the contours of the nose on it right as well. You can read about that one here: http://www.rapidotrains.com/scan.html -Stephen 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I think (and am happy to be corrected) it only ran as a 4 car set. Mark It also ran as a 3-car leaving TC1 in the RTC for static testing on several occasions. Anyone do a model of Kit Spackman in 4mm? A It was discussed today and it's referenced in a video I should have done by the end of the week featuring Jason, Kit and the APT-E preservation group which gets into some nitty-gritty about the model along with memories and motivations. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I have ordered the all bells and whistles DCC sound APT-E. Thanks for offering this in the first run. I think for the quality being proposed the price is correct . I could not find anything on Locomotions website about pay all now and get free postage.... But hey, I,ll let Locomotion clarify that option. I hope orders meet or exceed expectations because I bet there would be delays if they do not. And to all those who want to wait to see one in the flesh before buying.... Be careful, remember the Bluebell C class. If we want to gaurantee the price then we need to gaurantee the order. Finally WHAT A GREAT INTRODUCTION TO THE UK MARKET (don,t forget the dust behind the buffers and round axle boxes) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex Duckworth Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2014 That'll be a world first, then. On this APT-E yes, by Rapido, no. They laser scanned the FPA-4 at Exporail in Montreal a couple of years ago to get the contours of the nose on it right as well. You can read about that one here: http://www.rapidotrains.com/scan.html -Stephen Possibly an irony deficiency?. Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2014 Oh dear.....heart says yes but brain says no. Brain.....Got till April next year to consider if I want/need one. Heart.....Always wanted a model of it since seeing it ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMING a few times on the MR mainline undergoing test and once going slowly through Bedfird Midland Road station. Oh dear what do I do? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2014 Oh dear what do I do? Start saving up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Buy one, you're only here once after all! :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I'm guessing by the 'only' £100 increase for DCC sound, that either 1x ESU v4 is fitted with two speakers? Or two ESU non re-programmable 'select's'? Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidobill Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) Just wanted to say that it was great to get the chance to day to meet and talk with several RM WEB members today at Locomotion. The launch event went extremely well, Jason and I are tremendously encouraged by the response! We're also extremely tired....! Thanks also to the NRM/Locomotion staff and APT-E Support Group for their efforts in making this a very successful day. Wait until you see the video.... Bill Schneider Rapido Trains Edited June 24, 2014 by rapidobill 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 A good point although just to put the record completely straight I also made a specific exception for museums when it came to the matter of deposits as I consider their approach (and giving them the money) to be in a rather different category. However having said that I do tend to agree with your point that a deposit may well put off some people although overall I bet it will still sell like those proverbial hot cakes because of the iconic nature of the prototype and the quality of the model itself. I placed an order today, and it is Locomotion which takes the deposit and provides the receipt, not Rapido. I would think it is an essential safeguard for the museum. CHRIS LEIGH 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2014 3) Waiting until the exchange rates are in your favour is very risky. These rates change due to a number of factors, any and all beyond your control and mostly not in your favour anyway Which is why you talk to your bank and get various foreign exchange forward contracts, that fix the exchange rate for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 The only comparable product is the NRM Deltic prototype. 4800 made so far. The APT E won,t get that far I suppose. 3 to 4000? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 A bold move by Rapido and at a fair price XF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CPRAIL3000 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Very nice. Right Jason get back in that Voyager with your scanner and visit the Severn Valley Railway. Class 50026 is running this week and once you hear and see this you will give up on those old MLW/Alcos!! Seriously a Class 50 done correctly to Rapido Standard would be great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) For those in doubt: 1) Rapido is a batch-manufacturer: once out of stock, it'll be a fair while before a new series is commissioned... 2) If not enough orders are in, the model isn't forthcoming. Period... 3) Waiting until the exchange rates are in your favour is very risky. These rates change due to a number of factors, any and all beyond your control and mostly not in your favour anyway As I don't model 00 gauge, I won't buy one. However, Rapido is to be commended for this step, a leap of faith really, into an unknown market Slightly different in this case I think. The model is an NRM Exclusive being produced for them by Rapido and there is no indication that production won't take place if there are insufficient orders (although possibly the fifth coach might come into that category but the NRM have not said so - it could well become the most 'collectible' item for those so inclined). We simply do not know the commercial arrangement between Rapido and the NRM although the NRM website says 'produced to order only' and that is a clear incentive to place an order to ensure getting one. As far as the rest of any commercial arrangement is concerned that is down to the contracting parties and in this case of little concern to us - we have a quoted price, a manufacturer of known provenance, and the NRM 'Exclusive' tag which has also established - in my view - its own hallmark for quality and standards through the Bachmann models sold under that heading. But the leap of faith as you describe is perhaps not just down to Rapido but also to the NRM for the way, whatever it may be, in which they have become involved in the project so we should be hoping it goes well for both of them. And if it does go well maybe there will be future co-operation between them under that same 'NRM Exclusive' banner - after all that was rather an iconic engine Jason and Bill were sitting under the other day. And I'm sure the National Collection could offer some other very tempting 'targets' for further joint ventures - as long as this one goes as well as it deserves to. Edited June 24, 2014 by The Stationmaster 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mcowgill Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2014 Is it going to look out of place on my GE branch line? Don't need one, wrong period, never ran round 'ere - BUT, it sounds like it might go round the curve into the fiddle yard... Have to think about it, head is laughing itself silly, the heart is remembering the one time I saw it in motion - I'll think about it for a bit but...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Henriksen Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Very nice. Right Jason get back in that Voyager with your scanner and visit the Severn Valley Railway. Class 50026 is running this week and once you hear and see this you will give up on those old MLW/Alcos!! Seriously a Class 50 done correctly to Rapido Standard would be great. But Jason is already very familiar with the class 50, per this picture of him in the cab - http://rapidotrains.com/rapidonews55.html#anchor10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2014 Dam that is tempting... Glad there is a fair bit of time to save up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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