Barry J Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Collected my Hornby HST power car pack in Executive Livery today. First impressions were favourable, but something just didn't quite look right. Then it dawned on me... the "InterCity 125" detail on the loco side is in silver. Now I appreciate that the memory can play tricks on one with time, but my memory makes me think this should be in white? Would be interested to know what other readers think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Hi Barry, I'm pretty sure they should be in white. That's the colour of the Fox Transfers version for this livery... ...and a quick google backs this up. Whether or not any were done in silver, I can't say with absolute certainty, but I don't recall ever seeing any in anything but white either and I did do some research into the livery when I resprayed mine. The InterCity Swallow versions (which just read "InterCity") were in silver. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold pheaton Posted March 26, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2015 never saw a silver version.....even the original executive black outline lettering of InterCity 125 was in white https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3765/9067038974_d97ac243c1_z.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry J Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 As I suspected, it would appear that Hornby's recent track record of obvious livery errors has reoccurred once again. The "InterCity 125" logo on the model is definitely in silver and not the white as it clearly should be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 It's hard not to get the impression that when it comes to 1980s liveries in particular, they don't try that hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold pheaton Posted March 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2015 Barry can you post a photo cos even in hornbys production shots its in white.....very peculiar.....glad i picked up a professionally repainted bodyshell for my swallow set now Sigh.....even lima got that one right!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Barry can you post a photo cos even in hornbys production shots its in white.....very peculiar.....glad i picked up a professionally repainted bodyshell for my swallow set now Sigh.....even lima got that one right!!!! Agreed, pheaton. It looks white in the photos on Rail's website and the artwork on Hatton's site shows it in white too. Assuming it is silver on the actual models, there seems to have been a breakdown in communication somewhere along the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveClass47 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Hi, I received mine on Wednesday, but due to a paint flaw I have sent it back....its now out of stock as they are selling like Hot Cakes! However I have another on the way! This livery has not been released for around 30 years, so we should be thankful that they've listened to consumers and have released it. I lost count of how many 'product suggestions' emails I have sent them about this livery over the last 2-3 years. So WELL DONE to Hornby for giving us what I (we) wanted. My small concern with Hornby is not the tiny livery errors (although this is annoying), its with the QC to do with their paint jobs! Over spray, fuzzing of paint lines, dust in the paint finish, finger marks etc all over the model. Also, what I have noticed on the HST's is inconsistent paint application on the yellow fronts/sides on the HST's....a good coverage of paint on the nose/cab area with a noticeably thinner coverage on the sides. Some one in this thread mentioned that when it comes to 1980's liveries Hornby don't seem to try that hard. Yeah that may be a criticism, but Hornby have an annoying habit of making small mistakes and then making not effort to hide/resolve these. The buffet roof profile on the recent Intercity Exec MK3 coaches was incorrect, they knew it was incorrect, but they still went ahead and produced it anyway! They should have delayed it 6months until they had sourced the correct roof moulding. The silver lettering on the HST, whilst annoying for some is a not a deal breaker for me, but why do I feel the need to order 2-3 of each coach/loco that Hornby release, just so I can try and get one that is free from flaws?! Let me be clear, I am not Hornby bashing. I think they do so much good for the Hobby and I am a massive fan of the brand. No brand is prefect. Finally...I think my total spending on their products in 2014 would have paid the Gas/Electricity bills for their Margate offices for the whole year!!!!!!! However someone needs to check their Quality control. I now await the release of the large logo class 50's with black roof. I am praying that these arrive in top quality finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Kernow have a picture on their website which looks like the models they got and it looks white to me http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/images/prod_42113_3766.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I dug out my earliest photo of one in the 'new' livery. Is the writing in white? I can't really tell. Maybe you can decide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Here's a side-on shot of one I took at Bristol Temple Meads in '85. It certainly looks white to me in this shot and in every other shot I've seen of this livery on an HST power car. What is strange is that it looks white on all the photos of these models on both Kernow's and Rail's website. A photo or two from Barry and anyone else who has bought one would be good... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I dug out my earliest photo of one in the 'new' livery. Is the writing in white? I can't really tell. Maybe you can decide. 100798 253xxx RG 27:2:85.jpg That's the very earliest version of the livery, Jonny, with the writing in outline only, so it may be different from the solid version portrayed by Hornby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 That's the very earliest version of the livery, Jonny, with the writing in outline only, so it may be different from the solid version portrayed by Hornby. Sorry. I have the knack of confusing the issue. I think they are now called senior moments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted March 27, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27, 2015 100798 253xxx RG 27:2:85.jpg RIP the "real" Reading station. We've had Brutes from Bachmann. How about those ubiquitous luggage trolleys that you can see one of on platform 4A in the photo. Oh, and I certainly don't recall seeing anything other than white letters on the HST PCs in the version of the Executive livery produced by Hornby. Silver came later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted March 27, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27, 2015 The Kernow images definitely seem to have White branding. Can the original poster add picture to show his silver branding? I personally don't see it. Even the 4 images on the Olivias site seem white. http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Hornby-diesel-electrics/Hornby-class-43-high-speed-train/Hornby-r3271-class-43-hst-43021-43022-in-intercity-executive-livery/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveClass47 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Hi, Just had a look at my ones I received today....the lettering is light silver. It looks fine, but I understand it should have been white, as per the real thing. Its a small gaff!, it doesn't detract from the lovely livery on these power cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Hi, Just had a look at my ones I received today....the lettering is light silver. It looks fine, but I understand it should have been white, as per the real thing. Its a small gaff!, it doesn't detract from the lovely livery on these power cars. Any chance of a closeup photo, Dave? Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 A photo on Branchlines facebook page https://www.facebook.com/BranchlineHobbyShop makes them look white but having actually looked at it in the shop, they are silver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry J Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 I will post a pic when I have a moment, but it's definitely in silver. To confuse matters more, the image on the outer box has the logo in white! For me personally, it's one of those issues where you look at it and think, "something doesn't look quite right". Then when you realise the issue, it's really irritating. I appreciate that from distant viewing that it isn't a huge issue... but when you line the loco up along side another model in the correct livery, it's pretty obvious. On a model costing over £200 RRP it's just not good enough. For me, this is THE livery I have been waiting for on the Hornby HST and I'm thoroughly disappointed. I'm on my way to Ally Pally for the show today and looking forward to asking someone on the Hornby stand WHY? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottrains29 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 The highly detailed Virgin HST also has a glaring livery error. The red should come up to the bottom two roof grills but Hornby have painted it black instead. Strangely they got it correct on the cheap railroad version. Hornby really do need to take more care, after all these are expensive models not cheap toys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipperton Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I can also confirm, mine has silver lettering. When I first looked at the model I thought there was something a miss, but when I saw this forum I realised exactly what it was. Get it right Hornby, for £200+ you expect these things to be correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveClass47 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Can anyone help?.... Hornby seem to avoid naming their HST releases in the original Blue Yellow and later Exec liveries. Which is a shame, as a fair few HST units were named! In light of the recent release of Hornby R3271 in Exec Intercity livery, can anyone tell me of a website/book where I might find the history of the naming of the Class 43 HST machines? If Hornby's latest release 43021 and 43022 were named I might like to get etched plates made up to fit to them! Does anyone know where this information can be found? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic79 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Can anyone help?.... Hornby seem to avoid naming their HST releases in the original Blue Yellow and later Exec liveries. Which is a shame, as a fair few HST units were named! In light of the recent release of Hornby R3271 in Exec Intercity livery, can anyone tell me of a website/book where I might find the history of the naming of the Class 43 HST machines? If Hornby's latest release 43021 and 43022 were named I might like to get etched plates made up to fit to them! Does anyone know where this information can be found? I looked for exactly the same information earlier this week. Scroll to the bottom of this page for the start of the Class 43s: http://www.railuk.info/members/diesel/loconame_search.php?offset=600&number_in=&name_in=&order=number,%20named&dir=Next You'll be disappointed though I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60800 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 In light of all of this, I think I'll be sticking with just my current-tool GNER pair for £85...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian182 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Not just livery wrong body by the looks of it just done a quick look on Flicker and 43022 as done by Hornby as there dummy seams to have a Gaurds compartment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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