RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted June 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2015 Hi all, You have very kindly helped to identify a number of unidentified negs which I have acquired over the years. There are still some which though defy identification, would any of you have any ideas where these might be? 1 This could be anywhere as there are no clues. 2 The point looks to be hand thrown, does that indicate a light railway? the Baisingstoke and Alton has been suggested of which the nearest match based on angles and having a loop is Herriard which appeared in the Wrecker in 1928. 3 Ruthven Road was a 2 coach platform and when the photograph was taken the signal protecting the road had probably been removed. Bull head track and well used rails would apply to 1965. The photographer was standing adjacent to the crossing keeper's cottage with the gates behind him. Probably taken after 1962 when the line was one engine in steam and the electric tablet had been withdrawn. The chimney could be Lumsden and Mackenzie Bleach Factory which was served from a siding at Almondbank. I had struggled with CR lines and had completely forgotten about Perth - Crieff. I am sure this is the answer with passenger traffic having been withdrawn in 1951. 4 This one has a bit of a look of and LSWR box from behind, but I could be very wrong 5 Looks like 755 is very clean, maybe on test which would put it somewhere around Eastleigh, but I could be way off 6 Thought to be on the ex GWR, This page www.s-r-s.org.uk/RailRef/ref-gw.php shows the mileages on most if not all GWR lines, and so I searched for all mileages of circa three miles. Because a lot of mileages were measured from Paddington there are not all that many. Excluding areas that I know are urban or flat, the candidates are:3m26c Staple Edge Halt (Forest of Dean)3m35c Bacton (Golden Valley)3m48c Tonllwyd Halt (Dare Branch)3m07c Tondu North Junction (Abergwynfi branch)3m64c Kenfig Hill (Ogmore Valley Extension)3m20c Dimbath Junction (Blackmill Branch Tondu-Gilfach Jn)3m19c Pontyrhyll (Garw Branch)3m55c Lewistown Halt (Ogmore Branch)3m28c Rock Castle (Mountain Branch)3m32c Maes-y-Crugaiu (Pencader-Aberystwyth)3m72c Kingsland (Kington Branch)3m49c Sun Bank (Ruabon-Dolgelley)3m23c Frongoch (Bala & Ffestiniog)3m14c Rhos (Rhos Branch)3m19c boundary (Pontycysyllte Branch)3m22c Brymbo Junction (Wrexham & Minera)3m24c Brynmally Colliery (Wrexham-Brynmally)3m24c end of line (Camerton Branch)3m45c Cove Halt (Tiverton & North Devon)3m74c Teign Valley Junction (Moretonhampstead Branch)3m58c Causeland (Looe Branch)3m29c Goonbell Halt (Truro-Newquay)3m20c Treamble (Treamble Branch)This does not include the pre-grouping constituents of the GWR, so there will be some more to consider 7 8 9 10 now identified as Caerphilly West box 11 Trelewis 12 Based on the headcode this could be Waterloo or Nine Elms & Portsmouth via Woking & Guildford.Southampton, Eastleigh & Salisbury.Waterloo & Wimbledon via East Putney (sure it's not that)Fareham & Gosport.Bodmin & WadebridgeThe disc with a dark centre over the near side buffer should indicate a special train, which would agree with all the people leaning out and waving. Any ideas would really be appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Any chance you could edit the post to put a reference number before each one, so it's easier for us to discuss them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Clearly they are shots from around Reading General. I say this with confidence after my last identify the location debacle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted June 10, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2015 Hi no worries, I have updated it with numbers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I think 6 and 12 are the same location Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted June 10, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2015 Thanks Kenton, Thanks I was having a senior moment, I have deleted the duplicate and added more on possible locations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted June 10, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2015 No 4 looks similar to another I've seen of Lyme Regis ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 No 4 looks similar to another I've seen of Lyme Regis ? The pic with the tall signal box ? Lyme Regis was a squat ground-level box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted June 10, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2015 The pic with the tall signal box ? Lyme Regis was a squat ground-level box. Yes, you're right. Just shows how far "off region" I am .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted June 10, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2015 8, 9, 10, and 11 are all reported to be either Cambrian railway, although I think some could be Rhymney or Barry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonman Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 number 8 looks more like south Wales than the Cambrian... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Number 3 has been on here before, and I thought it had been identified. But I can only find it in this thread - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/35553-unidentified-locations-can-you-help/page-3?hl=%2Bunidentified+%2Bhalt&do=findComment&comment=714283and I don't see an answer there. I'll look a bit more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted June 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2015 Here are some additional candidates for No.6 from among the GWR's constituents - purely on the basis of having a milepost at around 3 miles. I've omitted some that I've investigated and found not to fit. For instance the Port Talbot Railway seemed promising, but had no overbridges anywhere near a 3 mile pointTaff Vale 3m48c Llantwit Fardre (Mwyndy Jn - Llantrissant Branch)3m26c Treferig (Treferig Valley Railway)Neath & Brecon3m76c BlaenantQuakers Yard & Merthyr3m62c Troedyrhiw HaltCambrian3m17c Llanyblodwell (Llanblodwell)3m70c Nantmawr (Blodwell Jn - Nantmawr)3m07c Llansantffraid (Llanfyllin Branch)3m59c Kerry (Kerry Branch) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted June 11, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11, 2015 Photo 2. Not necessarily a Light Railway. The lever could be locked with a key obtained from the signalbox. But actually, I think it might be a Light Railway - Basingstoke-Alton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted June 11, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11, 2015 8, 9, 10, and 11 are all reported to be either Cambrian railway, although I think some could be Rhymney or Barry I agree that they look more like the wilder bits of the South Wales Valleys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted June 11, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11, 2015 I know this is completely "off-the-wall" but 12 reminds me of a scene from a St.Trinian's film. But filmmakers don't usually get the train right never mind the headcode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted June 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2015 I wonder if No.11 could be near here https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.687047,-3.297865,3a,75y,357.44h,76.71t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sgpQUm9yDRrUNBM41oI7QzA!2e0?hl=en It is at the lower end of the Taff Bargoed line; in which case the view would be looking down-valley and the original reversed orientation of the photo was correct. Note the ballast encroaching onto the rail of the other track, which suggests it is out of use. The Taff Bargoed line was originally double track and I have an idea it was singled while the passenger service was still operating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Miles Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Number nine looks like Taff Vale and number 10 is probably Rhymney - they went in for SB's with stone bases. It could be R&SB though just to be uncertain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted June 12, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2015 Sadly we never got an answer on 3, hence having another stab that someone else might see it and know where it was. That's an interesting idea for 2 and Trelewis looks like a good fit with the hills, bridge and road in the background. Thanks for the suggestions on the boxes - I will add a bit next to it for anyone else who might then be able to finish the identification. In terms of 2 Herriard on the Basingstoke and Alton is about the nearest match there is in terms of how the line is running and having a loop. I have not yet identified if there was a siding as well there. Thanks again for all your help it really is appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2015 Number nine looks like Taff Vale and number 10 is probably Rhymney - they went in for SB's with stone bases. It could be R&SB though just to be uncertain. I'm sure that No.10 is Rhymney And after a lot of looking and delving over several days I am reasonably sure that it is Caerphilly West - this still had its original RR nameboard in 1960 (according to a published photo - taken from the opposite direction), the signal format matches, the position and colouring of the lamp hut matches and, also the position of the WR type of pressed metal nameboard fixed to the bottom of the window framing also matches (and they weren't all taht common plus being unusual to find the original nameboard in place after one of those was provided. I'm not so sure about No.9 - doesn't look ornate enough in the bargeboarding for a TVR 'box. I suspect - completely without any supporting evidence - that it might be one of the small 'boxes on the Rhymney main line such as Energlyn or Pwll Y PanT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Sadly we never got an answer on 3, hence having another stab that someone else might see it and know where it was. I still feel I've seen an answer to this. Part of it involved a picture taken from the other side of the station, looking back towards where your picture was taken from. Still haven't been able to find it, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Miles Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 There is confirmation on http://forum.signalbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7155 that 10 is Caerphilly West. This comes from Garth Tilt who is reliable. He doubts no.9 is Rhymney. Having looked at Taff Vale boxes, I have to agree with the Stationmaster, I was was wrong to suggest it is TVR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightengine Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Looking at the Caerphilly West box photos online I cannot see any similarity. Photo 10 shows a box between running lines and is stone built. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 13, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2015 Looking at the Caerphilly West box photos online I cannot see any similarity. Photo 10 shows a box between running lines and is stone built. I've found a photo which matches the box - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PHOTO-GWR-LOCO-9425-WITH-AN-UP-FREIGHT-PASSING-CAERPHILLY-WEST-BOX-26TH-APRIL-/191596887740 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightengine Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I've found a photo which matches the box - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PHOTO-GWR-LOCO-9425-WITH-AN-UP-FREIGHT-PASSING-CAERPHILLY-WEST-BOX-26TH-APRIL-/191596887740 Have to agree with that except the houses behind but theymay have been built later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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