Peter Kazmierczak Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 If things come to pass, it might end up as the Kim Jong-un Line.......... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted December 30, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2017 They should name parts of the Overground after Edward, George and Henry. That way they have lots of numbers to play with for the different services that use them. So from Liverpool Street Chingford could be Henry I, Cheshunt Henry II etc. When they finally get their upgrade to Camden Town and split the Northern into Edgware to Battersea and High Barnet to Morden* there are at least plenty of divorced royal couples to choose from when naming the two parts. *Or it may be the other way round - who gets custody of the Edgware is always a prime cause of dispute. And I suppose you could name a service that didn't get to it's intended destination the Charles 1st line. Jamie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 That would be the service to Mill Hill East then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.snowdon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 That would be the service to Mill Hill East then... Don't you mean Bushey Heath? Jim 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.snowdon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 They should name parts of the Overground after Edward, George and Henry. That way they have lots of numbers to play with for the different services that use them. So from Liverpool Street Chingford could be Henry I, Cheshunt Henry II etc. When they finally get their upgrade to Camden Town and split the Northern into Edgware to Battersea and High Barnet to Morden* there are at least plenty of divorced royal couples to choose from when naming the two parts. *Or it may be the other way round - who gets custody of the Edgware is always a prime cause of dispute. The "Elizabeth Line" is purely a figment of TfL's publicity organisation as the only line to be named after a person - yes, I know about the Victoria Line, but that was named for the fact that it went to Victoria as a location; the Royal connection is incidental. All of the names for London's Underground lines have come about through simple common sense and/or adoption by the public. Time will tell whether the travelling public adopts Elizabeth Line or simply sticks with Crossrail, which is of course what we have all known it as for over a decade. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2017 If things come to pass, it might end up as the Kim Jong-un Line.......... I often get the impression that TfL seem to be presenting Crossrail in that manner. I'm surprised I'm still around having had the gross cheek to write and tell them their trains are awful and we don't want them west of their bailliwick. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2017 The "Elizabeth Line" is purely a figment of TfL's publicity organisation as the only line to be named after a person - yes, I know about the Victoria Line, but that was named for the fact that it went to Victoria as a location; the Royal connection is incidental. All of the names for London's Underground lines have come about through simple common sense and/or adoption by the public. Time will tell whether the travelling public adopts Elizabeth Line or simply sticks with Crossrail, which is of course what we have all known it as for over a decade. Jim The Maidenwood Line does have quite a ring to it although I'm not so sure about Termfield. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 They should name parts of the Overground after Edward, George and Henry. Probably not, because the units on the Edward line would all have to be painted blue and have faces, and on the Henry line the tunnels would have to be bricked up with the train inside. Not sure about George, was he mates with Gilbert the gay engine? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) And I suppose you could name a service that didn't get to it's intended destination the Charles 1st line. Jamie Deleted as I was spouting nonsense. Edited December 30, 2017 by jonny777 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 Now just under one year to go before the Lizzie proper starts. http://www.crossrail.co.uk/news/articles/one-year-to-go-until-beginning-of-elizabeth-line-services-that-will-transform-travel-across-London . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) Why does it have to be named after royalty ? The name could be sponsored, as could the trains and each station adopted, to gain additional income ? It’s a Railway line, run as a business, not a charity or community function. Edited December 30, 2017 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Taplow sponsored by Plumb Center Maryland sponsored by Maryland Cookies Iver sponsored by Ivor the Engine I could go on..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Deleted as I was spouting nonsense. Not a problem, we are used to it! Only kidding! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.snowdon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Now just under one year to go before the Lizzie proper starts. http://www.crossrail.co.uk/news/articles/one-year-to-go-until-beginning-of-elizabeth-line-services-that-will-transform-travel-across-London . Well, no, not if you are to the west of Paddington, when you have to wait nearly two years, until December 2019 (and I have a feeling that that has been put back by a bit - I have a recollection of seeing May 2019 as a start date for the western services). All that happens to the west is that TfL take over the Heathrow Connect services, using the 345 stock, but oerating from Paddington main line station. That happens, from what I recall seeing recently, with the May 2018 timetable change. Why does it have to be named after royalty ? The name could be sponsored, as could the trains and each station adopted, to gain additional income ? It’s a Railway line, run as a business, not a charity or community function. a) for reasons of TfL vanity. b) Selfridges (for Bond Street)? Hopefully not - that was one that the Central London Railway turned down over a century ago, for good reason. One thing that no-one with any sense wants is to have station names that change because the sponsorship deal has been renegogiated (and one reason why FCC couldn't get rid of the Thameslink reference in City Thameslink station). Jim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) Well, no, not if you are to the west of Paddington, when you have to wait nearly two years, until December 2019 (and I have a feeling that that has been put back by a bit - I have a recollection of seeing May 2019 as a start date for the western services). All that happens to the west is that TfL take over the Heathrow Connect services, using the 345 stock, but oerating from Paddington main line station. That happens, from what I recall seeing recently, with the May 2018 timetable change. Hi Jim. As you correctly say, from next May (in 5 months time!) TfL will replace the Heathrow Connect service...but will run it under the TfL Rail banner until Crossrail proper (i.e. The Elizebeth Line) commences in December. From next December, the Elizebeth Line will commence running initial services through the central core, from Paddington (Crossrail Station) eastbound to Abbey Wood. The 10 new central and east London stations will come into operation. This is what the Crossrail piece is about. (N.B. Heathrow - Paddington will still be using the Paddington main-line station at this point and Shenfield services will still run into Liverpool St. main-line.) As it's a staged process, in May 2019 (in only 1yr 5 months time) Shenfield services will transfer from using Liverpool St. mainline into the tunnel and terminate at Paddington (Crossrail station). Finally the full set of Elizebeth Line services, to Heathrow and Reading will be implemented in December 2019. So yes, the Lizzie does start in just under a years time, but won't be fully up and running until 2 years from now. p.s. For those that don't know, TfL have already taken over the stations they will run west of Paddington. . . .. Edited December 31, 2017 by Ron Ron Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 The name could be sponsored, ..... How about sponsorship from a well known sandwich franchise...... Subway ???? . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2017 My guess is that, however the thing is officially branded, most users will call it Crossrail. The name is short, snappy and it describes the lines function exactly. I doubt that will change until Crossrail 2 happens. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 ... (N.B. Heathrow - Paddington will still be using the Paddington main-line station at this point and Sheffield services will still run into Liverpool St. main-line.) ... . Blimey: that sounds like a very significant change, which no-one seems to have talked about... Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted December 31, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2017 Blimey: that sounds like a very significant change, which no-one seems to have talked about... Paul It will certainly relieve pressure at St Pancras. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2017 Now just under one year to go before the Lizzie proper starts. http://www.crossrail.co.uk/news/articles/one-year-to-go-until-beginning-of-elizabeth-line-services-that-will-transform-travel-across-London . I notice that they don't say it will mean an even longer, and more circuitous transfer to the H&C platforms or the taxi rank at Paddington - hmm, didn't expect them to. (or are they going to turn the Circle Line back into a Circular service I wonder?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 And I suppose you could name a service that didn't get to it's intended destination the Charles 1st line. Jamie Or the Richard 2nd/ James 2nd & 7th 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 Blimey: that sounds like a very significant change, which no-one seems to have talked about... Oops! I don't know if that was a typo, or the bl**dy autocorrect. Well it was long past midnight after all.....that's my excuse and I sticking to it. . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel newling Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I notice that they don't say it will mean an even longer, and more circuitous transfer to the H&C platforms or the taxi rank at Paddington - hmm, didn't expect them to. (or are they going to turn the Circle Line back into a Circular service I wonder?) Now wouldn't that be nice! :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2017 a) for reasons of TfL vanity. b) Selfridges (for Bond Street)? Jim How about “Bond Street” with a second sign under it, saying “Sponsored by Selfridges”... it’s done other places already. Sutton station is sponsored by “Sub Sea Seven”, who ever they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher125 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) a) for reasons of TfL vanity. More like the previous Mayor's vanity, Boris came up with the idea (first suggesting it in 2013) and IIRC insisted on it - rather late in the day as Crossrail had appeared (covered up) on signage at Tottenham Court Road. But is it Crossrail? by Sheep"R"Us, on Flickr Edited January 1, 2018 by Christopher125 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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