Andy Y Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 My understanding is that the volume sold (in total) is somewhat higher than that assumption so it could be that larger numbers of 103 and/or 104 were produced to meet demand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 My understanding is that the volume sold (in total) is somewhat higher than that assumption so it could be that larger numbers of 103 and/or 104 were produced to meet demand. I'm not sure what the total production was but I don't think it was necessarily 500 of each livery. I don't think we increased the runs on 103 and 104, we merely added another different lined green one and weathered black one to provide alternatives to the ones that sold out quickly. I understand that the sales figures are very positive, to the extent that we are being asked what we have lined up to do next. We have a plan....... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) I'm not sure what the total production was but I don't think it was necessarily 500 of each livery. I don't think we increased the runs on 103 and 104, we merely added another different lined green one and weathered black one to provide alternatives to the ones that sold out quickly. I understand that the sales figures are very positive, to the extent that we are being asked what we have lined up to do next. We have a plan....... MR-104 was, at least in 2013, (according to the web page I saved at time of my order) limited to 500 MR-103, as stated on website is a production of 750. All others seem to be 500. Can MR clarify how many of each are produced in the end? I assume these are not certificated limited editions. Edited August 28, 2016 by G-BOAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted August 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 28, 2016 I would certainly like one of MR109, 30067 late logo without weathering. However, having had to scrimp and scrape to put together the money for an APT-E, it might be a while before I have the necessary funds. They might be sold out by then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrySVR Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I ordered the lined green when they were first announced but am still waiting, fortunately Kernow have confirmed they have my order so shouldn't be long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 It would be nice to know what those plans are....It might well save someone buying a loco for a possibly unnecessary respray lol! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted August 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 28, 2016 It would be nice to know what those plans are....It might well save someone buying a loco for a possibly unnecessary respray lol! ....... which is precisely why it would not be sensible business practice until all of the current batch are sold !! Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 ....... which is precisely why it would not be sensible business practice until all of the current batch are sold !! Regards, John Isherwood. If they are all sold...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted August 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2016 My 68 has arrived and can be read about further here https://grahammuz.com/2016/08/28/the-excellent-model-rail-magazine-sr-usa-0-6-0-tank-arrives/ 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted August 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2016 My 68 has arrived and can be read about further here https://grahammuz.com/2016/08/28/the-excellent-model-rail-magazine-sr-usa-0-6-0-tank-arrives/ USA 68_1.jpg USA 68_3.jpg I note,Graham,you state that a 5 pole motor is installed in this model.So this is a step-up from Bachmann's usual 3-pole,I take it.There has been some discussion here as to whether or not a coreless motor is used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted August 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2016 I note,Graham,you state that a 5 pole motor is installed in this model.So this is a step-up from Bachmann's usual 3-pole,I take it.There has been some discussion here as to whether or not a coreless motor is used. I think this post below shows that the motor is in fact a 5 pole open frame motor. I have not opened mine up yet. Simple answer is to take the body off and have a look This motor in the USA KWVLR 72 does not look like a coreless one to me 20120101_224903.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted August 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 28, 2016 If they are all sold...... Well, if they're not, I wouldn't hold out much hope for further batches / variants ! Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted August 28, 2016 Author Share Posted August 28, 2016 It would be nice to know what those plans are....It might well save someone buying a loco for a possibly unnecessary respray lol! I can tell you that these 10 livery/detail variants are the only 'USAs' Model Rail will be producing. Once they're gone, they're gone. It may be that, like the NRM exclusives, Bachmann will run the 'USA' in their standard range in due course, but that will be some years down the line. (CJL) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2016 MR-104 was, at least in 2013, (according to the web page I saved at time of my order) limited to 500 MR-103, as stated on website is a production of 750. All others seem to be 500. Can MR clarify how many of each are produced in the end? I assume these are not certificated limited editions. Could you please explain how this information helps the purchaser to enjoy his model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I can tell you that these 10 livery/detail variants are the only 'USAs' Model Rail will be producing. Once they're gone, they're gone. It may be that, like the NRM exclusives, Bachmann will run the 'USA' in their standard range in due course, but that will be some years down the line. (CJL) And just think what the price of them will be then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Jackson Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Hi there, I'm sorry if this is obvious but I can't seem to find it anywhere, how can I order or pre order a weathered version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted August 28, 2016 Author Share Posted August 28, 2016 MR-104 was, at least in 2013, (according to the web page I saved at time of my order) limited to 500 MR-103, as stated on website is a production of 750. All others seem to be 500. Can MR clarify how many of each are produced in the end? I assume these are not certificated limited editions. As far as I'm aware the quantities haven't changed from those originally announced. Orders for 500 are normally delivered (and charged) for 504 which includes the livery sample. Occasionally one has a unique sample model, such as the 'Maunsell' in malachite green, which will remain in Model Rail's archive. The 'USAs', like the Sentinels, are Model Rail exclusives but they are not limited editions as such. We ceased providing numbered certificates long ago, once it became clear that the majority of our sales have been to people who wanted to run their models rather than simply collect them. (CJL) 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted August 28, 2016 Author Share Posted August 28, 2016 Hi there, I'm sorry if this is obvious but I can't seem to find it anywhere, how can I order or pre order a weathered version? MR-106 Late emblem BR black No. 30071 is the weathered model. You can order at www.modelrailoffers.co.uk or by phone on 01209 613984. (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Hi there, I'm sorry if this is obvious but I can't seem to find it anywhere, how can I order or pre order a weathered version? http://www.modelrailoffers.co.uk/p/50864/MR-106-MR-Bachmann-USA-0-6-0T-Steam-Locomotive-number-DS-233 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 47137 Posted August 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 28, 2016 I missed the delivery yesterday but I'm delighted to have mine; it's a superb little model and I'll stick my neck out and say I feel it's the best produced OO RTR steam loco I've seen. My model of USATC '1968' has arrived and I've put a review of it against the Rivarossi model on my blog. I hope this is useful to people. I think the Bachmann product is fair, but the Hornby B12 is still the best RTR 00 steam loco I've seen. - Richard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 29, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 29, 2016 My 68 has arrived and can be read about further here https://grahammuz.com/2016/08/28/the-excellent-model-rail-magazine-sr-usa-0-6-0-tank-arrives/ USA 68_1.jpg USA 68_3.jpg Hi graham. You say that there is a new style of information leaflet included with the loco. Any ch ace of an image of it? Is it closer to Hornbys style rather than just the exploded diagram that used to be Bachmanns standard style? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted August 29, 2016 Author Share Posted August 29, 2016 Hi graham. You say that there is a new style of information leaflet included with the loco. Any ch ace of an image of it? Is it closer to Hornbys style rather than just the exploded diagram that used to be Bachmanns standard style? It's better than they used to be but it's not up to the Rapido standard by a long way. I'm in the process of fitting a decoder to the black 08 that we did (I bought the last one we had in stock). The piece of paper in that doesn't even tell you how to take the body off, despite the fact that it's DCC-ready, so you've got to take the body off to fit a decoder! I've long felt that this was one aspect of British models that was very poor. Hornby's leaflets are little better in my experience. (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) Hi graham. You say that there is a new style of information leaflet included with the loco. Any ch ace of an image of it? Is it closer to Hornbys style rather than just the exploded diagram that used to be Bachmanns standard style? hope it's ok to link to MREMAG, as here is the instruction leaflet http://www.mremag.com/index.php/letters-page/1112-hys10-8-2016 Edited August 29, 2016 by G-BOAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 29, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) Thanks for that Chris. And thanks for the link G-Boaf. It is definitely and improvement for Bachmann but I agree with Chris that Hornbys is still better. Edited August 29, 2016 by Hilux5972 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted August 29, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 29, 2016 Looks to be a very nice model, but I can't thnk of a reason/excuse to have one on my 1970's BR diesel layout. I wonder what one would look like in BR blue with a yellow smokebox? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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