RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 6, 2016 Oh, A gentle reminder. I have been informed, that next Saturday is Valentines Day. Someone is having you on - next Sunday - a week tomorrow - is Valentines Day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) Someone is having you on - next Sunday - a week tomorrow - is Valentines Day. Thank you, for drawing my attention to my error, as my name is not Valentine, it hold's no particular concern,to me. The relevant post has been, ammended, thanks. Edited February 6, 2016 by David Todd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 A general overview,of the site today, East to West. 1200-1300 hrs. 1. P1280026 by ferriesdover, on Flickr 2.P1280003 by ferriesdover, on Flickr 3.P1280003 by ferriesdover, on Flickr 4. P1270974 by ferriesdover, on Flickr 5.P1270964 by ferriesdover, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Work, along the site East to West. Up at the office site, laying of more foundation slabs for more containers'. P1270952 by ferriesdover, on Flickr Looks like the Spoil heap,has been graded, for machines to work at above ground level, a better height to unload materials from perhaps. P1270974 by ferriesdover, on Flickr The inboard section of seawall,that was excavated. This has been reinforced. P1270988 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270988 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270982 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270980 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270971 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270974 by ferriesdover, on Flickr 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 The west section,from the foot bridge supports,to the tunnel mouths. Two guys,painting white markers',on the sleepers'. P1270964 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270977 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270992 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1280018 by ferriesdover, on Flickr More Rocks,to be placed behind the new piling ? P1280019 by ferriesdover, on Flickr West end of the site, well,it is Saturday, first of the 6 Nations matches and shopping with the missus. At least the new stone material has been leveled, so it don't blow away in this Force 6-8 wind, I can hardly stand, up here. P1270967 by ferriesdover, on Flickr That is all for today, I do not envisage being here tomorrow though, Monday, is looking equally as bad, but with rain. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Switched the iPad on,then off, before I lost it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Looking at the location of the more recent buffer stop, I do wonder if it's been put there so that road-rail dumpers can travel twixt batching plant and worksite without a risk of collision with any 'proper' trains. The distance is so short between the two points that I'm pretty certain there'd be no need to tie up a road mixer or two on the job. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I believe they also needed to put in a catch point or derailer (my contact was a bit vague) and when Network Rail couldn't find one in their own stores for the South of England, they went instead to the Bluebell Railway to borrow one. Jon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted February 6, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 6, 2016 I believe they also needed to put in a catch point or derailer (my contact was a bit vague) and when Network Rail couldn't find one in their own stores for the South of England, they went instead to the Bluebell Railway to borrow one. Jon Damed useful having a thriving Heritage railway sector in this country.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) Fitted buffer stops to the down line, adjacent to The Dover Concrete Company Brett. A "Coincidence" ? Looking towards the curve to the beach, from the A20 road bridge. P1270887 by ferriesdover, on Flickr Now further down, this from the viaduct. P1270928 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270900 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270902 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270921 by ferriesdover, on Flickr Edited February 6, 2016 by David Todd 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) This is Dover Priory, because of the beach section closure,it is acting as a terminus. The clever part,it has at the bottom of the screenshot,under the road bridge and in the dark gully, A scissor s crossing,which sit outside the North portal of Harbour Tunnel (684 yards). From the South portal. Approx..250. yards to the newly installed stops. Edited February 7, 2016 by David Todd 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 This is Dover Priory, because of the beach section closure,it is acting as a terminus. The clever part,it has at the bottom of the screenshot,under the road bridge and in the dark gully, A scissor s crossing,which are, approx. 7,000. Yards from those newly installed buffer stops. image.jpeg 700? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) There is/was a military guardroom built into Harbour Tunnel,all bricked up, also interlinking,with other Foot tunnels. In the link below, Nick Catfords website,tells the history of Dover Harbour Station. http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/d/dover_harbour/ This link below, is also Nick Catfords, history of Dover Town station, where, Network Rail have their site offices at present,for the project . http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/d/dover_town/index.shtml Edited February 7, 2016 by David Todd 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) This is the scissors crossing a few yards south of the platforms of Dover Proiry station and before the North portal entrance to Harbour tunnel. (2008). This crossing was renewed,in October 2015. My layout model,of the same, Viewed from platform 2. Dover Priory. Kent Rail.org.uk Edited February 7, 2016 by David Todd 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I wonder if they're looking at operating spoil/ballast trains on a more frequent basis, possibly using the shorter track to stable one rake in, whilst the other is moved. What I would envisage is:- First working of the day:- Lead loco detaches at Dover Priory, then proceeds to rake of wagons on the 'long' siding, couples to them, and returns to DVP. Second loco then propels new rake of wagons to 'long siding', remaining attached to them until loading/unloading is completed, then either taking them back to Hoo or placing them on the 'short' siding. Alternatively, the 'short' siding could be used to stable a 'buffer rake' of either empty wagons, or wagons bearing materials. Presumably, with the current method of working, the second loco isn't crewed, and simply runs 'dead-in-train', adding nothing to the power and 120t + to the load? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_A Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Here's the view south from Dover Priory Station in July 2014, the ivy somewhat in retreat. https://www.flickr.com/photos/25876334@N00/14533370329/in/datetaken/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapland Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Suspect with tonights forecast the site will be cleared today, strong winds and large waves forecast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Suspect with tonights forecast the site will be cleared today, strong winds and large waves forecast. I have no intention of going today, nor tomorrow , as the wind speed is increasing, I have to consider my own safety Tuesday,is when I will return, for an update on the site. Thanks for your likes and your interest and also to the OP,for starting this thread. At present,am in a submarine off the Heligoland coast, hunting the Brandenburg , While making 200 dropper cables, for the g/children's layout. Edited February 7, 2016 by David Todd 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted February 7, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2016 At present,am in a submarine off the Heligoland coast, hunting the Brandenburg , We Dive At Dawn - darn forgot it was on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Dcc cable laying, was severely intrupped to today, by visitors to the spare room. A servere test to their layout out was conducted and questions asked,like, Why have you not stuck the track down, grandad ? Where are the platforms and people ? That's females,direct and the the point ! Has to be finished by Friday, the G/sons turn up then. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D854_Tiger Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I wonder how they resource these repairs at such short notice. The plant, raw materials and engineering staff. Presumably, other already planned projects have to take the hit. Also, I wonder if that layer of rust on the tracks presents any problems when reinstating the services. I would think rust is no problem for 750V but maybe signalling circuits are another matter. There again plenty of sections of rusty track out there that from time to time get pressed into service without problem. On Youtube there are some clips of Cambrian specials described as rust removers, prior to the return of services, after those bridge works had closed the line north of Harlech. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I wonder how they resource these repairs at such short notice. The plant, raw materials and engineering staff. Presumably, other already planned projects have to take the hit. Also, I wonder if that layer of rust on the tracks presents any problems when reinstating the services. I would think rust is no problem for 750V but maybe signalling circuits are another matter. There again plenty of sections of rusty track out there that from time to time get pressed into service without problem. On Youtube there are some clips of Cambrian specials described as rust removers, prior to the return of services, after those bridge works had closed the line north of Harlech. The plant, by and large, is commonplace, and not rail-specific. Likewise, the personnel will not be railway specialists. I doubt that their presence at Dover is having much effect on projects elsewhere. The accumulation of rust will be dealt with by running empty-stock trains to-and-fro under possession until the signalling engineers are happy that the track circuits are being activated properly. You'd be surprised to see how quickly that coating of rust is removed. Don't forget that the section you see in David's invaluable postings is but a small fraction of the line that is affected; there have been no trains between Folkestone East Junction and Dover for over a month. This is a distance of about five and a half miles, the majority exposed to the sea. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuartthegrant Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 David thanks for recording all this ongoing engineering work. Its a historical record of the event. Stuart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dp123 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 The buffer stops have appeared as the worksite is now considered a "high street environment" (hate that term) and as such, the track leading to it has been reclassified as a terminal siding to remove the worksite from T3 operating arrangements. Effectively, the railway between Dover Priory and Folkestone East is now no longer part of the national network. There are special operating arrangements to move engineering trains from Dover through Harbour Tunnel to the siding, which is protected by the signals at Dover and a set of derailers at the Folkestone end of the tunnel, and terminates at the buffer stops. The stops can be lifted to allow trains into the worksite. The conductor rail is still live as far as the siding end, and the siding has been christened the Shakespeare Railhead. Buffer stops have also been placed at Martello Tunnel at the Folkestone end, clear of Folkestone East. There's no requirement for derailers at this end as there's no requirement to move or stable engineering trains from Folkestone. A similar arrangement of buffer stop protection exists at London Bridge for the Thameslink worksite, another section severed long term from the operational railway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 The buffer stops have appeared as the worksite is now considered a "high street environment" (hate that term) and as such, the track leading to it has been reclassified as a terminal siding to remove the worksite from T3 operating arrangements. Effectively, the railway between Dover Priory and Folkestone East is now no longer part of the national network. There are special operating arrangements to move engineering trains from Dover through Harbour Tunnel to the siding, which is protected by the signals at Dover and a set of derailers at the Folkestone end of the tunnel, and terminates at the buffer stops. The stops can be lifted to allow trains into the worksite. The conductor rail is still live as far as the siding end, and the siding has been christened the Shakespeare Railhead. Buffer stops have also been placed at Martello Tunnel at the Folkestone end, clear of Folkestone East. There's no requirement for derailers at this end as there's no requirement to move or stable engineering trains from Folkestone. A similar arrangement of buffer stop protection exists at London Bridge for the Thameslink worksite, another section severed long term from the operational railway. Thank you for you input, dp123, very much appreciated . One of my bug terms " Going forward", Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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