RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2018 Did anybody make any record of the broad gauge west of Reading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Did anybody make any record of the broad gauge west of Reading? Imagining Edison at the lineside, with a prototype phonograph recording Broad Gauge singles bursting out of Box Tunnel on the 9th April in the early 1880s..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webbcompound Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) Imagining Edison at the lineside, with a prototype phonograph recording Broad Gauge singles bursting out of Box Tunnel on the 9th April in the early 1880s..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph When you set those hares running on here: I couldn't immediately find any early train related recordings. Mostly they were voice or instrumental, although there were some sound effect cylinders. So whilst the the population of Castle Aching scurry off to find the goodies and report back here is a little ditty recorded in 1907 on an Edison Black Wax cylinder . Just imagine an irritating youth getting in your compartment, winding up his phonograph, slipping on a cylinder and and playing this whilst you harumph and try to read the Times letter page. There is a scratch at the end which COULD be one of Mr Edwardians steam locos chuffing along. http://02e9244.netsolhost.com/edison/When_The_Sheep_Are_In_The_Fold.mp3 Edited November 3, 2018 by webbcompound 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2018 Just imagine an irritating youth getting in your compartment, winding up his phonograph, slipping on a cylinder and and playing this whilst you harumph and try to read the Times letter page. Plus ca change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2018 Did anybody make any record of the broad gauge west of Reading? How far west? Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2018 How far west? Don Tilehurst? Pangbourne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 .......I'm afraid the discussion on the legitimacy of monarchy was bringing out my inner Jacobite rather than Jacobin - it's not monarchy per se that's wrong, it's just we're saddled with the wrong lot So I take it you will always have a glass of water in front of you when toasting 'The King'? Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2018 So I take it you will always have a glass of water in front of you when toasting 'The King'? Jim The trouble is the Stuarts died out with the Cardinal of York's death in 1807. They were certainly the legitimate Kings of Scotland but the claim to the thrones of England, France and Ireland is debatable. I recall a television programme many years ago in which the true King of England - descendant of the Plantagenets - was revealed to be an Australian sheep-farmer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 ......I recall a television programme many years ago in which the true King of England - descendant of the Plantagenets - was revealed to be an Australian sheep-farmer. So, the glass of water still stands then? Jim 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S-C Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Tilehurst? Pangbourne? Several photos of the BG at Watchet, and of course St Ives. Or am I being led a merry dance by some humour I haven't identified? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) So, the glass of water still stands then? Jim Still water, certainly, as a memorial to opportunities missed, or perhaps more pertinently as a toast to an ideal of just and legitimate government. One mustn't forget to toast the Little Gentleman in Black Velvet. I believe the nearest legitimate living relative of the house of Stuart is the current Duke of Bavaria, though a good number of the non-royal dukes in the British peerage are illegitimate descendants of Charles II. Edited November 3, 2018 by Compound2632 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2018 There’s a guy down the chip shop swears he’s Elvis. Station painting coming up, got to be pregroup, it’s painted green. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2018 Still water, certainly, as a memorial to opportunities missed, or perhaps more pertinently as a toast to an ideal of just and legitimate government. I always think of David Niven’s comment about this, in the earlier parts of his first autobiography. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2018 There’s a guy down the chip shop swears he’s Elvis. Station painting coming up, got to be pregroup, it’s painted green. 53BCD416-3941-4F5C-98F2-4788DAFD7CA1.jpeg Something slightly amiss with the Valve gear. That vertical member (looks it up - combination lever) seems to be freely dangling rather than attached to the crosshead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Harrison Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 There’s a guy down the chip shop swears he’s Elvis. Station painting coming up, got to be pregroup, it’s painted green. 53BCD416-3941-4F5C-98F2-4788DAFD7CA1.jpeg Reminds me of the little train at the start(ish) of Thomas Mann's The Magic Mountain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2018 I always think of David Niven’s comment about this, in the earlier parts of his first autobiography. Pass... There’s a guy down the chip shop swears he’s Elvis. Station painting coming up, got to be pregroup, it’s painted green. Pre-group? Re-group more like. It must be after 1945 as Zielkowo was formerly Zielkau in East Prussia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2018 IMG_20180806_222139.jpg Uphill cutting near Weston-super-Mare, I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2018 Uphill cutting near Weston-super-Mare, I think. Ah. I took it for Sonning cutting. Was there not originally a flying arch there too? Something of a Brunellian trademark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2018 Pass... Pre-group? Re-group more like. It must be after 1945 as Zielkowo was formerly Zielkau in East Prussia. And yet the style of costume and the manner of painting look earlier to me. Could there be another place with the same name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Very interesting photo alert. We've discussed the make-up of trains to transport troops with horses more than once at CA and, while looking for something else, which I haven't found yet (always the way), I found this https://www.casgliadywerin.cymru/items/405437 Since the caption is in Welsh, its a good job that a picture speaks a thousand words, and it seems to show exactly what we've looked for: two tank engines with a train composed of coaches, a van of some sort, 'flat' wagons carrying what look like gun limbers, then a long tail of what look like cattle wagons. On the platform are horses, soldiers, and plenty of 'gawpers'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2018 1915 - the first three carriages are clearly one colour - all-over brown or lake - but the fourth looks to still have cream upper panels so has gone getting on for seven years without a repaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2018 it is of course the military Trawnsfynydd Camp station just north of Trawnsfynydd on the GWR Blaenau Festiniog branch. i am sure it has been published as i have seen it before. By the way there is an "English" button on that page but the English version doesn't tell you much more. Jonathan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) Very interesting photo alert. We've discussed the make-up of trains to transport troops with horses more than once at CA and, while looking for something else, which I haven't found yet (always the way), I found this https://www.casgliadywerin.cymru/items/405437 Since the caption is in Welsh, its a good job that a picture speaks a thousand words, and it seems to show exactly what we've looked for: two tank engines with a train composed of coaches, a van of some sort, 'flat' wagons carrying what look like gun limbers, then a long tail of what look like cattle wagons. On the platform are horses, soldiers, and plenty of 'gawpers'. There are two giveaways. 1) the tab says, Soldiers and horses at Trawsfynydd railway station, 1915, 2) Google Translate says the same. So not much information there. More interestingly are the locos 850s or the earlier 645 class? Edited November 3, 2018 by ChrisN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) Zielkau/Zolkowo: The village actually transferred from German to Polish administration under the Treaty of Versailles, and was known as Zielkowo until 1939, when it came under German control and became Schilkendorf, before becoming Zielkowo again in 1945. I think that the loco belongs to OKB = Ostpreussen Klein Bahn AG, a company that operated oodles of minor lines of multiple different gauges from 600mm upwards, and I think continued to exist while bits of the territory that it served were Polish. So, our painting would seem to date between 1919 and 1939. It might be pre-grouping, but it might not. Edited November 3, 2018 by Nearholmer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Very interesting photo alert. We've discussed the make-up of trains to transport troops with horses more than once at CA and, while looking for something else, which I haven't found yet (always the way), I found this https://www.casgliadywerin.cymru/items/405437 Since the caption is in Welsh, its a good job that a picture speaks a thousand words, and it seems to show exactly what we've looked for: two tank engines with a train composed of coaches, a van of some sort, 'flat' wagons carrying what look like gun limbers, then a long tail of what look like cattle wagons. On the platform are horses, soldiers, and plenty of 'gawpers'. 1st class compartments for officers, 3rd class compartments for their horses, cattle wagons for the rank and file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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