Edwardian Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 So how long before the mystery surrounding a missing family jewel or an unrequited passion causes the scion of a west Norfolk family to join the French Foreign Legion .... to forget?!? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Like any bunch of people lost in the desert, we have stumbled upon our own footprints. No doubt The Remembrancer can tell us when we were last here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 Mustapha Leek! Mustapha Camel ... wasn't he a Young Turk though? I'll raise you one Sheik Yerbouti 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted October 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2018 Is that a warning about low-flying jets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2018 Mustapha Camel ... wasn't he a Young Turk though? I'll raise you one Sheik Yerbouti I rather liked the Beano's Sheik Amasivh-bin-Bagh. He was on his way to buy Dundee United when he stumbled across Beanotown FC. Not very PC, this. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Being PC is overrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S-C Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I always thought that Marty Feldman would have been very useful as part of an army reconnaissance unit - he'd have seen twice as much as anyone else. Yes... um... yeah, the non-PCness of this thread was probably established several hundred pages ago.Wasn't there a real Sheik Yamani in recent years? Edwardian - I must expose your Sheik Yerbouti as an imposter. I am certain that's Frank Zappa. To get back on-topic (to an earlier off-topic subject) he did have an ancestor who knew Murat: 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted October 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2018 Being PC is overrated.Yeah.I use a Mac... True story of the you-wouldn’t-believe-this-if-it-was-scripted variety follows. A few months back, I was having a conversation about PC with a couple of colleagues, one a bit younger and the other one younger still (mid 20s). I made the point that when people complain about “political correctness”, they usually meant “political correctness gone wrong/too far”. The basic issue - and the root of the word political means “of the people” - is that of being respectful to others and their differences, which is fundamentally a Very Good Thing. As such, PC Was really important in reframing mindsets and means we cannot use the “n-word” (my youngest colleague is black) nor can we call someone who is gay a “puff”. My younger colleague went on to mention that his particular gripe was people taking offence on the behalf of others, or without being aware of the context of the usage of the word. You know what’s coming, don’t you? Yep. Younger but not youngest colleague and I went to a meeting, and not long after that, someone came over from a nearby desk and said the following to my youngest colleague, “I don’t want to make a big fuss, but I heard one of your colleagues say ‘Puff’ a few minutes ago, and I would like you to ask him not to use that word again as I find it offensive.” He was a little overbearing and my colleague is of a slightly nervous disposition so did not point out the irony of his complaint, and she refused to reveal who it was, so I was denied the delicious irony of telling this guy what an idiot he was, but there you go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 Yes, it's Frank Zappa. If I thought anyone would be genuinely offended, I would reconsider, but a lot of humour on this thread involves whimsical, mildly comic or absurd names. As it's set in Edwardian Norfolk and these people are, presumably,caucasian, nobody thinks twice that we have a Colonel Knap-Flint, a Mariana Trench and a Lord Erstwhile. So, no, the fact that these are "foreign" silly names does not make the attempt at humour racist or inherently offensive, any more than is the case with it's-spelt-luxury-yacht-but-pronounced-mangrove-throat-warbler. It's just playing with words, sounds and ideas to add a bit of fun. So, I must defend the silliness of the past and the silliness of the present. As Bungdit Din once remarked to the irritating Holy Man ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S-C Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) Simon - Yes, come across that before, someone complaining about non-PC phrases used in a conversation about non-PC phrases. Its the old "don't mention the war" joke but dressed up in modern guise.I think Patrick Stewart summed it up well with... Edited October 8, 2018 by Martin S-C 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2018 Personally, I get twitchy when I hear sizeist remarks made about Midland locomotives or the term "double-heading" used in a derogatory fashion in reference to the Midland. Come on, if it's petite you're looking for: 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) Please tell me more about that startling (have I suddenly got double vision?) Crewe double chimbley - it looks to be a single casting. I wonder why Mr Webb didn't opt completely for a double stove pipe - marginally cheaper. dh Edit sorry, that was a case of an over-excited reflex reaction to early Bauhaus 'form follows function' I've now just found this http://www.steamindex.com/locotype/lnwr2.htm note Detailed design The coming of the extended smokebox. Locomotive Rly Carr. Wagon Rev., 1942, 48, 215-16.Considers both Dean's and Webb's contributions. In case of Webb this includes the double chimney types fitted to 1532 Hampden and 1502 Black Prince Poole, A.J. Locomotive smokeboxes. J. Instn Loco. Engrs, 1932, 22, 281-98. Disc.: 298-318. (Paper No. 288).Webb divided his smokeboxes into two compartments by means of an horizontal plate and provided a chimney and blast-pipe to each. Unfortunately he used a separate exhaust for each cylinder without any junction, so that the very intermittent effect rather nullified the experiment . The extended smoke box can be easily seen on 1532 Hampden, but I can't see any tell tale rivets indicating that bizarre horizontal divide. And after closer examination it seems to be a fabricated double chimney not a single casting. Edited October 8, 2018 by runs as required Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2018 Pkease tell me more about that startling (have I suddenly got double vision?) Crewe double chimbley - it looks to be a single casting. (I wonder why they didn't opt completely for a double stove pipe - marginally cheaper. dh It was fitted to Hampden in 1897 as a trial for a similar chimney fitted to 4-cylinder compound Iron Duke. After a while it got a top of normal Webb outline, rather than the plain stovepipe seen here. Probably only worn for a few months. The smokebox contained a horizontal plate in front of the tubeplate, with each half exhausting through a separate flue, it was hoped to even out the draught through the tubes and hence, I suppose, the heating. This is rather different to the double chimneys of later years which, as I understand it, were designed to provide a freer exhaust from the cylinders, reducing back-pressure on the pistons. Ref. E. Talbot, An illustrated history of LNWR engines (OPC, 1985). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted October 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2018 At least we haven't had anyone showing off their Bloomers Jonathan 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2018 At least we haven't had anyone showing off their Bloomers Small, Large, or Extra Large? Way bigger than Ramsbottom's Ladies, in any case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted October 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) Post deleted - just noticed someone else had made the same PC/MAC comment! Edited October 8, 2018 by Alex TM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Burnham Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Hmm, I wonder if the occupiers of the Castle Aching Drill Hall (vide supra) might have been deputed by the Surete to assist Inspector Lestrade with the case of the Erstwhile Emeralds - 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted October 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2018 Post deleted - just noticed someone else had made the same PC/MAC comment! You need to be quicker off the blocks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Come on, if it's petite you're looking for: So it wasn't just the Midland that gave you supermarket offers on locos hauling their trains? Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2018 So it wasn't just the Midland that gave you supermarket offers on locos hauling their trains? Jim No indeed... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 Came across these. More or less in-period for CA. If, like me, you find the old illustrations of the Illustrated London News ilk, fascinating, despite their idealised and, of course, pro-imperial treatment of their subject matter, you might enjoy the French equivalent ... 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 No indeed... Touché mon ami! (since mine host has put us on a French theme here at the moment) Jim 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted October 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) In the late 80s I was working in Bristol in a largish open office one of the senior members of the staff was a vey friendly polite mild mannerd person. One day he had a visitor of Afro Caribean ethnicity and were busy discussing work matters when he said 'of course the real n..... in the woodpile problem is ....' at which point the full horror of what he had just said struck him. Don Edited October 9, 2018 by Andy Y Political comment removed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted October 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2018 No indeed... CRdoubleheaded.jpg Reading a book on the Highland Railways last night, 30 assorted 6 wheel carriages, wagons and horse boxes from Perth to Inverness, two locos on the front, one giving a push up the backside. For a while this was not an unusual event!!.. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-Pete Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 No indeed... CRdoubleheaded.jpg Double-heading a la Belge.... (play it loud) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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