Castle Aching

[TT-Pete]

20 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

>>Try Czech

 

I did, but it bounced.

 

Oh, mine was blank.

[James Harrison]

2 hours ago, Martin S-C said:

I had a moment just now and randomly wondered if there was any further news on the BBC WotW mini-series that was discussed by parishioners a few months back. It seems not, though the BBFC has given it a 15 certificate which means the show is complete in its entirety. One wonders what the Beeb are waiting for.
 

 

Commissioning editor, or whomever is in charge of the affair, has gone on holiday. 

 

[Edwardian]

Why sit on The War of the Worlds? One can only assume that the BBC does not want to prompt a wholesale flight to France on the assumption that it, unlike Woking, it is not suffering from the complete breakdown of civilisation as we know it.

[nick_bastable]

1 hour ago, James Harrison said:

 

Commissioning editor, or whomever is in charge of the affair, has gone on holiday. 

 

In need of brain bleach and a forget it all  drugs  I offer this as a attempt at sanity

 

 

Nick

 

 

Edited August 1, 2019 by nick_bastable
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[Donw]

Regarding the comments on my railway room. At the moment any modelling has to be done elsewhere. I do go the the local club weekly. I am a great believer in what I call 10 minute jobs handy for odd times usually when  Marion is 'getting ready'. However to be practical you need somewhere where the task can be done with it ready and tools etc. to hand. Track building is a good task. In 10 minutes you can apply woodstain to a number of sleepers/timbers, next time aplying pva stick a number down, when sufficient are stuck down, cut a bit of rail and thread the chairs on ready  etc. etc. quite theraputic after a busy day but you do need either baseboard or workbench set up ready. Oh and do include washing stain or pva out of the brush or the next time is rather non productive. 

 

As to Jonathan's brass folding, generally a Hold and Fold is a great help. If you need to fold a Narrow U it may be easier to start one side but only do a small part of the bend then start the other side, keep swapping sides moving each up it may reach a point where you cannot get the hold a fold between the two sides. They may then squeeze up in a vice. If the vice jaws are too short a couple of pieces of ground steel stock can be used in the vice. Alternatively if it is very narrow you can use a steel rule on edge. You may need a bit of card or something to  pack it out. Make sure the steel rule is the side you are bending so you may need to move the packing. Which ever you try I would do as Jim says a run a knife along. I have used  the tip of some Gilbows as a scraper to score a sort of V where the etch bend line seemed to shallow. I would also recommend using a length of ground steel stock or hardwood to push the bend down although with the hold a fold once clamped pushing the edge to be bent down onto the bench surface works well. Tweaking it down it steps along the edge can cause ripples so is only used as a last resort.

My two pieces of Ground steel stock are about ten inches long by 1inch by 1/4inch which were fine for EM  but a bit short for 0 gauge coaches. However I got an extra long Hold andFold instead.

 

Don 

[Compound2632]

Deal or no deal: post-grouping posters posted. Pre-grouping posters, please post pre-grouping posters. This is much more how pre-grouping posters should be imagining their holidays:

 

 

 

This young lady is probably being a bit too optimistic about the weather:

 

 

 

Pre-grouping paddling, as it should be done:

 

 

 

But of course it's the train there that's the real attraction:

 

 

So why stop at the Kent coast?

 

Edited August 1, 2019 by Compound2632

[Caley Jim]

51 minutes ago, nick_bastable said:

In need of brain bleach and a forget it all  drugs  I offer this as a attempt at sanity

 

Or no deal?

 

Jim

Edited August 1, 2019 by Caley Jim
Apologies for cross posting. You beat me to it, Compound!

[Compound2632]

Feeble wits think alike...

[Hroth]

11 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

This young lady is probably being a bit too optimistic about the weather:

 

If it were advertising a French bicycle, she would be wearing NOWT!

[Hroth]

1 hour ago, nick_bastable said:

In need of brain bleach and a forget it all  drugs  I offer this as a attempt at sanity

 

 

Nick

 

 

 

I'd be more worried about the seagulls, its not just the chips they're after (according to the "popular" press), they're pinching lager now, and vomiting over holidaymakers.....

 

You'd definitely need the bleach!

 

[Compound2632]

9 minutes ago, Hroth said:

 

If it were advertising a French bicycle, she would be wearing NOWT!

 

We've been there before - but I can see why it came to mind. Not recommended - I dread to think what would happen if her "garment" got caught in the sprocket...

[Hroth]

5 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

We've been there before - but I can see why it came to mind. Not recommended - I dread to think what would happen if her "garment" got caught in the sprocket...

She'd go arse over tip.... 

 

(To clarify my position, this could happen to any person wearing similar garments, not just a young lady)

Edited August 1, 2019 by Hroth
Amazing! the Net Nanny and Auto-Bowdleriser didn't have a fit of the vapours......

[Donw]

Much joy and happiness as this turned up today

 

 

It is a proper steam engine to run in the gardenbut the detail and finish is superb it is a very good model of the real one

[Edwardian]

10 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

Deal or no deal: post-grouping posters posted. Pre-grouping posters, please post pre-grouping posters. This is much more how pre-grouping posters should be imagining their holidays:

 

 

 

This young lady is probably being a bit too optimistic about the weather:

 

 

 

Pre-grouping paddling, as it should be done:

 

 

 

But of course it's the train there that's the real attraction:

 

 

So why stop at the Kent coast?

 

 

What a splendid array of posters, thank you.

[Buhar]

The misty view of Constantinople/Istanbul is more or less from where the Pera Palace Hotel was built a few years later to serve the Orient Express. Looking across the Halic/Golden Horn towards Topkapi Palace with Asia beyond.

 

There are a couple of mis-placed mosques but it evokes the scene. Sadly both of Istanbul's magnificent termini are out of use. The Orient Express restaurant at Sirkeci was a particular treat as was the barber at Hydarpasa. 

Alan 

Edited August 2, 2019 by Buhar
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[Northroader]

Don, here’s a picture of your loco, taken from the “Picture Post” for 19/11/49. The person using the tree as a viewpoint  is a Mr. Rowland Emett.

[Edwardian]

20 minutes ago, Buhar said:

The misty view of Constantinople/Istanbul is more or less from where the Pera Palace Hotel was built a few years later to serve the Orient Express. Looking across the Halic/Golden Horn towards Topkapi Palace with Asia beyond.

 

There are a couple of mis-placed mosques but it evokes the scene. Sadly both of Istanbul's magnificent termini are out of use. The Orient Express restaurant at Sirkeci was a particular treat as was the barber at Hydarpasa. 

Alan 

 

 Constantinople's Sirkeci station, on the west side of the Bosphorus, point of arrival and departure for the Orient Express ....

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 2, 2019 by Edwardian
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[Compound2632]

More than a passing resemblance to Slough. 

[Edwardian]

2 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

More than a passing resemblance to Slough. 

 

Indeed, the elongated dome at Sirkeci resembles the Great Western's French Chateaux style as applied at Slough, though, fascinatingly, in 1872 Turkey was still dependent upon Western architects for such stations and hotels and Sirkeci is an example of Prussian Orientalism!

[Tom Burnham]

Haydarpasa station in 1971, taken from a ferry.  Sorry to hear this fine station is not in use at present (although it may be reopened in due course, apparently).  Built for the Anatolian Railway in 1909, so a Near Eastern example of high Edwardiana - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haydarpaşa_railway_station

 

[St Enodoc]

2 hours ago, Buhar said:

The misty view of Constantinople/Istanbul is more or less from where the Pera Palace Hotel was built a few years later to serve the Orient Express. Looking across the Halic/Golden Horn towards Topkapi Palace with Asia beyond.

 

There are a couple of mis-placed mosques but it evokes the scene. Sadly both of Istanbul's magnificent termini are out of use. The Orient Express restaurant at Sirkeci was a particular treat as was the barber at Hydarpasa. 

Alan 

I understood that Haydarpaşa is about to reopen. Don't know about the barber though.

[Edwardian]

I think it had a bad fire in recent years.

[Edwardian]

Closer to home, I am delighted to learn that David Eveleigh's Great Eastern 6-wheelers are now available to order.  David's email is easternandmidlandsmodels@gmail.com.  They will cost £45 plus £4 P&P.  Unlike the 4-wheelers, which were essentially body kits, these are full kits, but etches only, so for the 'castings', please visit Guy Rixon's Shapeways shop,  Set A (with the central springs only on the 'J' hangars) is the one you will need: Link.

 

This is a very exciting moment for me, as it was in hopes of just this type of GE 6-wheel coach that I first approached David.  Though the 4-wheelers have proved a happy bonus, the 6-wheelers are exactly what I'd wanted for a GE through service to CA, behind a No.1 Class Sharpie 2-4-0 or a T26 2-4-0 Intermediate.  

 

I am hoping to inspect the models David has built at some point next week, and will report further.

 

In the meantime, I have pictures of some of them and I have compiled some prototype notes.

 

It is worth noting that most of these have not, to my knowledge, been produced as kits before. The D&S kits nearly all represented the final style of 6-wheelers built by the GE (1897-1903).  John Watling has penned an excellent series of articles on the Great Eastern Railway Society site.  He has adopted a typology for classifying the evolution of GE coaches.  This final type of 6-wheeler is classified as 'Type 7A', and overlaps the introduction of bogie coaches. 

 

David's new kits are the preceding style of 6-wheelers.  These are the Holden standard types built 1886-1896 to either 32' or 34'6".  John Watling designates these as 'Type 5'.

 

The Type 5 is distinguished by square bottom and top radial corners to the lights and vertical panels. The Type 7A, or 'square light' coaches, have square corners top and bottom to the vertical panels and windows.

 

The Type 5s had an internal height to the crown of the roof of 7' and a door height 5'10".   The Type 7As were taller.

 

The Type 5s were built in large numbers over a long period.  Perhaps unsurprisingly, then, a review of photographs tends to throw up pictures of these, with the characteristic radial upper corners rather than the later 'square light' Type 7As.  So far as I am aware, D&S only produced one 'Type 5', the D404 Third. 

 

David is producing:

 

D404 Third - 6-compartment third, and by far the most numerous with 642 built.

 

 

 

D219 Luggage Composite - 32' vehicle with centre luggage compartment. 295 built.

 

 

 

D514 Brake Third - 34'6" - 148 built.

 

 

D516 Full Brake - 32" - This matches well the photographs and diagram book drawing. 152 built to D516 and D513.  D513 has the door right at the end, a less attractive variant. 

 

 

 

D10 Third Saloon - one of a small number of saloons, the D10 dates from 1887. No more than 7 built.

 

 

D105 First.- John Watling's articles suggest this is a central luggage compartment flanked by pairs of compartments. David confirms that his model is from a drawing to this number of a five-compartment First, so that is what we'll get. 40 built

 

D110 Lavatory Composite. 

 

This proved interesting.  I couldn't find a reference to a diagram 110 and I'd expect a composite to have 3-digit diagram number beginning with 2.  Firsts tended to start with 1. David informs me that the NRM drawing is 10146, described as 32ft. lav. compo., Aug 1890  D110c. 

 

This leads me to conclude that this started life as 1st/2nd Lav. Compo of 1890 to D205.  The GE abolished Second on all but its Continental expresses at the start of 1893. Generally 1st/2nd composites were converted to 1st/3rds but, John Watling tells us, exceptionally the D205s were upgraded to all Firsts.  I surmise that D110 was the new diagram number applied once it became a First.

 

As for Castle Aching, the plan is to have a 5-coach train comprising Full Brake, Luggage Composite, Third, Third and Brake Third.

 

 

 

 

Edited August 2, 2019 by Edwardian

[runs as required]

i confess to being very disappointed with first impressions of Sirkeci station on arrival off the Orient Express 57 years ago on possibly this very day. We were over a day late after interminable delays through the Balkans - time enough for a trolley-bus ride in Sofia while our SOE CIWL cars were dumped in a bay platform to await the next train down to the border, without any hook up for lighting and operating loos.

At the Pera Palace hotel we two newly weds could only afford a Turkish coffee in the lounge, we slept in a mosque converted from a Byzantine church now converted into a hostel.  

But our onward First Class Return to Aleppo free tickets issued by  BR  burnt a hole in my pocket after my young bride cried "Enough!" when we took the ferry across the Bosporus to the Haydapasa station on the Asian side to enquire about reservations and train times.

 

Haydapasa remains my most romantic marine station of all time; I do hope it has survived its disastrous fire.

dh

 

Gosh, sorry!

I left this post unfinished obeying a call for a quick lunch downstairs and now find CA has now rolled on through umpteen topics. 

 

Edited August 2, 2019 by runs as required
apology

[sem34090]

Looking at the railway poster discussion there, is it just me who is suspicious of the charms of a place which the railway company felt they could only advertise with young ladies in swimming costumes or some other scant garment?

I first started thinking this when I saw various posters for Bognor, and most of them seem to feature a young lady as the main subject!!!

Another example... Was that all BR could find good about Herne Bay, Portsmouth and Southsea?! 

Things got so bad later on that the only good things they could say about my County of Residence is that you could arrive early there. And they could only find two things to attract people to visit...