RMweb Gold JohnR Posted December 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2017 But its not quite making changes for the sake of entertainment is it? Its completely lying about misrepresenting the capacity of the Electric Car! And why? It adds nothing to the entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 But its not quite making changes for the sake of entertainment is it? Its completely lying about misrepresenting the capacity of the Electric Car! And why? It adds nothing to the entertainment. Can I ask why you watch it? The simple solution would be not to, surely? If it were to become a serious, factual show, it would (imho) run the risk of becoming incredibly boring and viewer figures would doubtless plummet leading to cancellation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted December 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2017 But its not quite making changes for the sake of entertainment is it? Its completely lying about misrepresenting the capacity of the Electric Car! And why? It adds nothing to the entertainment. In the same way as placing a pick up on a tower block and demolishing it, didn't add to the safety spec. The programme is about petrol heads, not tree huggers with jumpers powered by llama dung. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I've had the pleasure of having actually MET all three of these blokes and I can say the following with the knowledge of first hand experience: - Jeremy Clarkson is an extremely nice man (as long as he hasn't got a drink in him apparently) who has a genuine interest in engineering, technology and history. When someone disagrees with him, he is interested in finding out their point of view and debating those differences. His 'orang-utan' character is just that, a character. One which, in print and on the screen, has made him an exceptionally wealthy and famous man, so why on earth would he stop doing it? -James May is not as dull or as fuddy duddy as the series makes him appear. Again 'captain slow' is someone who he portrays on TV rather than his actual personality -Richard Hammond is the closest to his TV persona. He's a loud ex-brummie who enjoys fast cars and country life. Now, the entire TV series since they were together as a three-man band on Top Gear to the present episode of the Grand Tour has never come close to being factual. Its entertainment, and its entertaining to see three blokes mucking about in cars that most of us could only afford if we sold every other worldly possession in the world. it is fun above all other things - what does converting a VW van into a canal boat prove? Nothing, but I laughed until my sides hurt Besides, on those few occasions when they did become serious (looking in the window of the Jensen and TWR factories, The armed forces rally team, The aftermath of hurricane Katrina in the American special, the tribute to Ayrton Senna) the contrast to their usual tone make it all the more noteworthy. Its never going to be all things to all people, and rattling off a series of facts and figures instead of being funny will simply make people turn off the TV and then nothing gets made. Next thing is that people will be annoyed that zebras are stripey 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted December 14, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2017 Surely it wouldbe more useful for journalists to deconstruct and analyse the misrepresentation, distortion and outright lies that appear regularly in newspapers, the TV news media, "serious" documentaries and in opinion shaping social media sites and which are threatening democratic processes rather than whip themselves into a self righteous fit over a light entertainment show? Maybe that'd rock the boat, need serious integrity and commitment and hard work, much easier to have a go at something which is unashamedly just entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 - Jeremy Clarkson is an extremely nice man (as long as he hasn't got a drink in him apparently) who has a genuine interest in engineering, technology and history. Despite the anti-public transport persona on TV, he is actually a railfan. In one of his books he wrote about his interest in things built in his home town (Doncaster) and about Deltics. Some (perhaps a lot) of it came out on the footplate of Tornado. Cheers David 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted December 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2017 They just enjoy dangling the bait and letting the fish bite They won a 'best unscripted' show award and made a point of hiding the script on screen. All entertainment tv and a lot of the 'light news' is staged with all sorts of fiddles. They take the piss out of American cars and electric cars, especially Tesla since Elon Musk took Clarkson to court and lost. Forget Don't Panic, maybe they need a Don't take this seriously header 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Watched episode 2. Another classic race with a predictable and scripted but enjoyable finish. Just saying, there are buses that run non-stop from BUF to Niagara Falls. The Stigletto as the new test driver surprised me, although being from Yorkshire maybe it's not so surprising! Cheers David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted December 16, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2017 So far season two has really hit the ground running and it all feels more at ease than the early episodes of season one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 No spoilers please, folks - I won't get to see Series 2 until I return home in mid-February... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I won't get to see Season 2 until it hits the free-to-air channel. As such, I can expect a few spoilers along the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted December 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2017 Episode 2 struck me as being much better than episode 1. I guess a bit like the first series when the first episode was weaker than some of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Are there any Columbians in the audience? Just finished the first 3 episodes of season 3. I thought the American muscle car segment was strung out a bit too long but otherwise very enjoyable. The McLaren Senna was just mind blowing. The Columbia special was the classic TG adventure/challenge on a bigger budget, although some of it (e.g. the volcano) seemed to repeat the Patagonia special. Cheers David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just seen Episode 4, noted VivaRail even gets a mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted February 2, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2019 They do seem to have gotten more into their stride with the 3rd series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted February 9, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2019 This weeks tribute to Jim Clark was the GT at its best, bravo to them for paying tribute to such a great driver. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Wonderful piece about Jim Clark. Makes you wonder what he could have done if he had lived past 32. Fangio retired at 46. Cheers David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted February 15, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2019 Excellent episode in China this week, may be a bit of an eye opener to many. I have been driven over the Shanghai Yangtze crossings a few times and when you see some of the civil engineering projects in China it does make you realise just how far the country has developed and in such a short time. When I first visited China in the early 90's it was a rather undeveloped country, now it is our country and the other Western countries that look a bit backwards by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted February 18, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2019 I am enjoying this series. Howver the BBC show needs mute on one part time presenter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 The route they took in Scotland confused me. Hammond was tracing his finger along the A838 but then they went north over the Kylesku Bridge and ended up at Ullapool. Cheers David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ryde-on-time Posted February 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2019 I think that’s because it’s an entertainment show, not a documentary. (I have heard rumours that there are some Scots who don’t deep fry all their meals!) This link earlier in the thread points out similar inconsistencies in an earlier show http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2017/12/a-forensic-debunking-of-the-grand-tours-trip-to-switzerland/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) Just watched episode 9. The piece on the astronaut cars was great and the Citroen C3 was very much in the style of the Ford Fiesta (supermarket car chase and Royal Marines landing) from TG days. Cheers David Edited March 11, 2019 by DavidB-AU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Watched episode 10. They are really getting into their stride. I will admit to being one of the (at the time) 330,000 viewers who watched James May unbox a car for the entire 17 minutes, although at the time obviously nobody knew what it was for! It now has over 1.1 million views. Here it is in its entireley. Cheers David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Likewise. I also watched a few episodes of David Souffle Jo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Another one down. Batumi and Baku look amazing! Apart from all the Ladas. But the Russians shifting the border - how did I only learn about this from a car show? Cheers David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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