Show us your Pugbashes, Nellieboshes, Desmondifications, Jintysteins

[Hacksworth_Sidings]

On the topic of R1s… Here’s one I made earlier:

 

 

Dublo R1 acquired from Hattons for £15, cleaned out the chassis with WD-40 and white spirit (previous owner must’ve used 3 in 1 to lubricate it, the stuff was like freshly chewed gum on a hot day!) got it running to a reasonable standard though I think he might want a remag… Some extensions to the tanks with milliput and card, the face from an old “ERTL” Thomas, and he was done! Made him as a birthday present for my younger brother last year, he isn’t run awfully often, but he loves the thing, it’s a model unique to him. 

Edited February 9 by Hacksworth_Sidings

[Annie]

1 hour ago, Hacksworth_Sidings said:

What wheels did you use?

Basically the smallest set I could find.  I can't remember what they were off now, - I was 18 when I did this and that was a long time ago.

[Dunsignalling]

10 hours ago, Annie said:

Basically the smallest set I could find.  I can't remember what they were off now, - I was 18 when I did this and that was a long time ago.

8F then, I'd think.

[Dunsignalling]

On 09/02/2024 at 08:12, Hacksworth_Sidings said:

 

So I’ve been thinking.. In the first article I shared in that post, it shows another pugbash, an 0-6-0T for TT track (narrow gauge in 4mm scale), presumably built around the Triang TT Jinty chassis…

 

 

…Could OO wheels be fitted to the Triang TT Jinty chassis? I’m still on the hunt for a good OO, short wheelbase chassis, so if such is possible then I’ll start looking into that…

Check out  www.3SMR.co.uk 

 

They offer TT wheels down to 12.5mm diameter, and Romford-style square-ended axles. 

[robert17649]

23 hours ago, Dunsignalling said:

Check out  www.3SMR.co.uk 

 

They offer TT wheels down to 12.5mm diameter, and Romford-style square-ended axles. 

In my experience their wheels are pretty good although the have abs centres and need care, the square axle holes give a pretty good positive lock and they do tun true I think the profile is to rp25, work in em gauge certainly.

[bobthemilk]

On 05/02/2024 at 17:12, 25kV said:

It's been a long while since I built an Airfix/Dapol Pug...  In fact I think it was around 1980 if this photo is dated accurately.  I'd just built the one on the left - the one on the right is the remains of my dad's Kitmaster attempt from a generation earlier.  No paint, just decals straight on to plastic. 

 

Inspired by this thread a mere 44 years on (with a pause in other projects while waiting for paint), I wondered if it might be time to build another Pug kit or two... and perhaps create a small variation on the original.  Not sure whether it truly qualifies for this topic, as it's unpowered and the wheels won't even rotate fully, but here it is anyway!  Not sure how this is going to blend in with the APT fleet, but whatever!

 

Presenting the Pugger-Garratt, an insane L&Y design for hauling massively long freights along tightly curved dockside sidings under low bridges on incredibly steep hills.  Seen here sitting on a bit of OO gauge track dumped unceremoniously atop my dad's OO9 layout for the scenic backdrop.

 

The boiler is from a Hornby 3F body, I think - it looked "about right" on the Peter's Spares website, albeit a Midland design rather than L&Y.  Cab, tanks, running gear, chimney and dome are from the pug kits; the coal bunker (inspired by the design of a NZ Garratt) is carved from an old Dapol 9F kit tender (I pulled it apart to investigate whether the 9F's boiler might suit - it might have suited...), while the mid-section frame is plasticard and H-beams.  Some very basic plastic-rod-in-hole pivots provide articulation.

 

A bit of Photoshop AI smoke just for fun.  It's still in need of some numbers and a couple of other details.  I wanted to keep a certain Puggishness to the look of the loco, hence trying to find a boiler of similar dimensions to the curve of the original saddle tanks, and using the chimney/dome from the kit (probably impractical in reality for a that size of boiler!).

 

Broadside view - it comes in at about a scale 60ft over the buffers.  I suspect in reality it'd need a little more in the way of wheels ... I completely failed to install weights in the tanks, so both engine units are ever-so-slightly nose-up with the weight of the boiler on their tails.

 

Catching the rays on the curve, and highlighting my badly-carved plasticard end plates on the tanks...

 

Stabled with my more usual traction preferences.

 

And as for what happened to that 1980 pug kit ...

 

 

It spent a few decades in the attic, but was rolled out to meet its crazy cousin. 😉

 

 

[bobthemilk]

I like that very much

 

Mine from March/April 2017 from the missing pictures

[25kV]

57 minutes ago, bobthemilk said:

I like that very much

 

Mine from March/April 2017 from the missing pictures

 

Love it!  Excellent name! 

[cypherman]

Hi all,

Love these small Garrets. Would love to maybe try and make one using a couple of Hornby ex Dapol Pugs. But for the moment I will have to be content with my current slightly bigger Garrets........ 😁

Edited February 17 by cypherman

[Hacksworth_Sidings]

3 hours ago, bobthemilk said:

I like that very much

 

Mine from March/April 2017 from the missing pictures

Does she actually run? Those chassis’s look to be Dapol’s/Hornby’s rather than the ones supplied in the kits…

[bobthemilk]

On 17/02/2024 at 23:03, Hacksworth_Sidings said:

Does she actually run? Those chassis’s look to be Dapol’s/Hornby’s rather than the ones supplied in the kits…

I had originally built it with airfix chassis as supplied and always wanted it to run , and the years went and one day by chance I  bought cheaply , one and half Dapol pugs and replaced the non runners with them . The motor is in the 'tender' and will pull eight or nine wagons or a couple of four wheel coaches. There is a big lump of fishing weight bashed to fit to keep it level

[bobthemilk]

On 05/02/2024 at 17:24, Hacksworth_Sidings said:

Wasn’t there a similar conversion shown in a magazine a few decades ago? Though it was much smaller, utilising the pug boiler as opposed to a 3F’s, can’t remember where I’ve seen it, certainly on RMWeb*, possibly hidden somewhere on the Airfix/Kitmaster thread…

 

Regardless, I’m all for crazy, unorthodox locomotives, love seeing such designs being produced bad physical models instead of just being in the realm of drawings!
 

*Found it! 33C had sent me photos of these articles a few months ago, top is a double fairlie Pug, bottom is the garratt I mentioned…

 

The bottom article was my inspiration

 

And I bought that magazine when it came out with my pocket money . Was it really so long ago

Edited February 28 by bobthemilk
dotage

[bobthemilk]

On 29/01/2024 at 19:45, rockershovel said:

I was scratching my head over this one till I realised...... the chassis is back to front. 

 

Reverse the chassis and it would be a classic late 19th century "long boiler" 0-6-0

 

You could do that with one of these...https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.7Fp1TDYZgyghXU9LdiFlhwHaC9%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=f870b234bda505a87a0a2dc8e21ddcc00e62ef183b0cf6911efb85f7e26238b3&ipo=images

quite rare I'm told and there was an article in constructor/modelller in the mid late 60's H0-scale Rivarossi 'Bourbonnais'

 

Edited February 28 by bobthemilk
dotage

[33C]

Did mine a few years ago . I added the missing middle wheels on the tender as dummys, because the motor is in the way.

Edited February 28 by 33C
added photo.

[LNWR18901910]

On 27/01/2024 at 22:40, Hacksworth_Sidings said:

Unsure if this is suited for the thread, it isn’t exactly a Pugbash, Nelliebosh, a Desmondification, or a Jintystein (unless you count the use of a few Jinty wheels).

 

A surplus of spare parts, a hacksaw, a bottle of super glue, and nothing to do with your time does strange things to the mind…

 

 

Princess chassis block, Jinty driving wheels (3MT drivers on the centre wheels, as they have the extended crank pins), a rear bogie from a black five, Princess body with the cab snipped off (though I kept the cab floor as to keep the original mounting lug), and the cab & bunker off a damaged 3MT. Half tempted to get a Prairie kit to nick the tanks from… Or maybe Jinty tanks, unsure… Oooh, I have that spare Lima 9400 body with no smokebox…

I say! What an interesting tank locomotive! It would be perfect for the London Midland and Grand Central Joint Railway (or LMGC for short!)

[LNWR18901910]

On 21/12/2023 at 17:26, Jake said:

A bit of progress today. Double dock shunter has gained some underframe detail and a temporary buffer beam (held on with bluetac)

Ah, yes - how I love prototype diesel locomotives! Where can I find a short Bo-Bob chassis like that?

[33C]

10 minutes ago, LNWR18901910 said:

I say! What an interesting tank locomotive! It would be perfect for the London Midland and Grand Central Joint Railway (or LMGC for short!)

It sort of has the look of an Argentinian Ferrocarrill Buenos Aires al Pacifico BAP 4-6-4T. Once you have the tanks on!

[33C]

7 minutes ago, LNWR18901910 said:

Where can I find a short Bo-Bob chassis

Check out the American HO F unit diesels. You can find them cheap. Got a whole CN train, in HO, on your favourite auction site, for sub £15.

[LNWR18901910]

On 24/06/2023 at 22:09, Corbs said:

Pugbashing is not just for OO.
Steve Price on Facebook has posted photos of this stunning conversion of a G scale 'James'.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/814561258654535/media

 

I say! What a beauty of a Mogul! I hope this can be replicated in 00!

[LNWR18901910]

On 01/04/2023 at 13:32, Ben B said:

 

Another from my Triang/Hornby clockwork 'What-if' project :)  I absolutely love the venerable DMU from the range, and have a fair few of them in my collection (including the one that belonged to my Dad when he was a kid; it became my first non-Thomas 00 gauge train when I was 5).  Anyway, I bought a load of damaged bodies in a job lot on Ebay for another conversion, and so decided to add a clockwork DMU to this project.

 

 

It's the later Hornby issue (the last one I think before the moulds were retired in favour of the Calder Valley DMU), with the headcode box.  My vague justification for the project was Hornby engineers/designers trying to milk every last penny from the dying tooling, producing these cut-down versions to fit the standard 0-4-0 chassis sometime in the early 1980's.  The roof incidentally was missing from the bodies, and I was trying to cut-n-shut a standard Triang roof, as above.  It looked a bit naff, but a chance find online saw me acquiring a proper DMU roof.

 

 

Triang bogie sides help disguise -a bit- the standard tank-loco chassis underneath the body.  Again, the vague justification is that, like the earlier 08 I posted a couple of pages back, Hornby would have shoved this into the Thomas range as Daisy (which is certainly what Dad's old Triang DMU ended up being rather a lot!)  The trailer car rides on a broken mechanism from the collection, with the gears and springs missing.  As with the 08, the paint job is kept deliberately simple (with the addition of a bit of yellow for the front; even so, it seems a little extravagant for cost-conscious Hornby with the clockwork range, and would probably have been left plain green.

 

 

OK I'll admit, it's a bit daft, but I really like this one from the project :)

 

 

Does it run? I was thinking of making a similar version using a Dapol Railbus kit and a Black Beetle Motor. It would be an AC 9-Volt powered mini DMU for a 1970s and 1980s BR-era themed layout using short and simplified variations of prototypical real-life locomotives and rolling-stock.

[LNWR18901910]

And now for something completely different as well as relevant to my modellign era and such:

This is supposed to be an LNWR 4-4-0 which is mostly a George the Fifth locomotive made from asecond-hand Bachmann Edward model. And yes, it does run well in both directions and goes nicely with Toby's Museum Coaches which I feel strongly resemble LNWR coaching stock.

[Ben B]

7 hours ago, LNWR18901910 said:

Does it run? I was thinking of making a similar version using a Dapol Railbus kit and a Black Beetle Motor. It would be an AC 9-Volt powered mini DMU for a 1970s and 1980s BR-era themed layout using short and simplified variations of prototypical real-life locomotives and rolling-stock.

 

It does indeed run, the clockwork mechanism is a pretty decent example from a late-80's issue of the tank loco.

 

I love the idea of shorty stock, inspired by the Japanese stuff in N and Z by the likes of Rokuhan and Tomix. I've a part-converted railbus with a Triang DMU cut-and-shut onto a Fleischmann 4 wheel loco chassis, but I also toyed with a mini 101 using Bachmann 'underground ernie' tube car underpinnings, but the chassis turned out to be quite poor quality.

[33C]

19 hours ago, LNWR18901910 said:

And now for something completely different as well as relevant to my modellign era and such:

This is supposed to be an LNWR 4-4-0 which is mostly a George the Fifth locomotive made from asecond-hand Bachmann Edward model. And yes, it does run well in both directions and goes nicely with Toby's Museum Coaches which I feel strongly resemble LNWR coaching stock.

If your on a budget, or your hand isn't too steady, try red and white electrical tape, cut into thin strips and apply. I find the more you handle it the harder it sticks over time. Or, paint sellotape, stuck on a mirror/tile/plate, whatever colour you desire and then cut with a steel rule and scalpel into the thickness you need, e.g. 3mm orange with a 1mm black overlaid in the centre for BR green lining. I can't take credit, I saw it in an old MRC, and it does look okay. The "cast no. plates" on my "Long boiler" are just painted plasticard with hand painted numbers. Cheapo is the way to go!

Edited February 29 by 33C
Added detail.

[AlfaZagato]

Could seek a bow pen, as well.   Can be had for not a lot of money.

[33C]

You can pick up a perfectly usable Bow pen in any art shop for £1.86. It's plastic with bare minimum metal tip but is fully adjustable and easy to use. That's what i started with and never looked back.