Little Muddle

[Oldddudders]

40 minutes ago, Tim Dubya said:

 

Look, even I've got two panniers on my (soon to be) ex LSWR BLT.  That's because a Pannier never offends.

 

Don't tell the SW Circle!

 

 

Too late.

[Ponthir28]

Panniers are just too cute to offend anyone.

[KNP]

Talking of Panniers.

7750 moving through paint workshop.

It’s had three coats of GWR green, Humbrol acrylic RC405, sanded with a mixture of f/g pen and carborundum paper between coats applied with a fine flat brush.

Black areas are my normal Vallejo Black Grey.

Once dry a coat of Matt varnish with a small amount of Vallejo Roof Dirt added to dull.

When all dry transfers, number added then weathering will commence.

 

Edited November 11, 2021 by KNP

[MrWolf]

I think that Swindon would have approved. 

BTW, my copy of The pannier papers No3 has just arrived.

Nurse, pass me the razor saw....

[Tortuga]

What was the GWRs obsession with pannier tanks? I’m probably totally wrong here and making a very general assumption but only the LNWR Bissel tanks come to mind as examples of standard gauge pannier tanks that aren’t GWR ones.

“I’ve got the latest design for our new six wheel shunting locomotive”

”Um, it looks the same as our last six?”

”No, no. Not at all! As you can clearly see, this design has a cab six inches lower than previous designs!”

[MrWolf]

IIRC it was so that crews and fitters had easier access to the inside motion etc and wouldn't have to crawl underneath (a potentially dangerous activity out on the working line) in order to oil round and make running checks.

[Harlequin]

Pannier tanks, I mean the actual tanks not the eponymous locos, fit neatly around the Belpaire fireboxes.

 

[John Besley]

2 hours ago, MrWolf said:

IIRC it was so that crews and fitters had easier access to the inside motion etc and wouldn't have to crawl underneath (a potentially dangerous activity out on the working line) in order to oil round and make running checks.

That said you have to be pretty agile to oil up reaching over the running plate into the inside motion, it is easier to do the inside and axleboxes from between the frames, standing on a old wooden chair in the pit to reach up in the old days - well when I did that back in the 70's and 90's

[KNP]

And 2251 0-6-0 Collett returns with what looks like a yellow dot on the tender.......!

 

 

Edited December 9, 2023 by KNP

[KNP]

Ahh...its the shirt button!!

 

 

Edited December 9, 2023 by KNP

[2ManySpams]

On 07/11/2021 at 23:25, bgman said:

 

I've seen several gang up on "foreign" engines that have the audacity to run on their lines ! 

 

Don't worry, will soon have the GWR bullies sorted out...

 

[The Stationmaster]

19 hours ago, Harlequin said:

Pannier tanks, I mean the actual tanks not the eponymous locos, fit neatly around the Belpaire fireboxes.

 

Exactly.  The change came when the GWR went from round top fireboxes to Belpaire and found that fitting a saddle tank over the different firebox shape was not an easy task.  So to go with the belpaire fireboxes they adapted pannier tanks instead of saddle tanks.

 

3 hours ago, 2ManySpams said:

 

Don't worry, will soon have the GWR bullies sorted out...

 

Off which a certain Mr Churchward might well have said that any three of ours could push any eight of yours backwards 

 

BTW that would be the original Mr Churchward n known for teh design of railway engines rather than his distant relative of the same name who I used to work with - on the Western of course - in the 1970s.  I don't think that Bill Stanier, a perway supervisor at Reading, was even distantly related to his namesake who became a 'Sir' however there were men i knew on the Western in the 1980s who were directly descended from men who'd worked n the broad gauge GWR doing a simlar job (engine driving in several instances).

[Oldddudders]

23 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said:

BTW that would be the original Mr Churchward n known for teh design of railway engines rather than his distant relative of the same name who I used to work with - on the Western of course - in the 1970s.  I don't think that Bill Stanier, a perway supervisor at Reading, was even distantly related to his namesake who became a 'Sir' however there were men i knew on the Western in the 1980s who were directly descended from men who'd worked n the broad gauge GWR doing a simlar job (engine driving in several instances).

Bob Urie, sometime Asst GM on the Eastern Region, came to join us in BR Projects in the mid-90s, and his grandfather had certainly designed a loco or two! And ISTR RCA Nicholls, a WR trainee in my year whom the SM probably knew, was descended from a senior luminary on the GWR.

 

And in a recent BRM, Nick Palette, a rather talented modeller of all sorts of prototypes, revealed that he came from good railway stock - father John was GM of the Southern 40 years ago. 

[St Enodoc]

10 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

Exactly.  The change came when the GWR went from round top fireboxes to Belpaire and found that fitting a saddle tank over the different firebox shape was not an easy task.  So to go with the belpaire fireboxes they adapted pannier tanks instead of saddle tanks.

 

Off which a certain Mr Churchward might well have said that any three of ours could push any eight of yours backwards 

 

BTW that would be the original Mr Churchward n known for teh design of railway engines rather than his distant relative of the same name who I used to work with - on the Western of course - in the 1970s.  I don't think that Bill Stanier, a perway supervisor at Reading, was even distantly related to his namesake who became a 'Sir' however there were men i knew on the Western in the 1980s who were directly descended from men who'd worked n the broad gauge GWR doing a simlar job (engine driving in several instances).

 

9 hours ago, Oldddudders said:

Bob Urie, sometime Asst GM on the Eastern Region, came to join us in BR Projects in the mid-90s, and his grandfather had certainly designed a loco or two! And ISTR RCA Nicholls, a WR trainee in my year whom the SM probably knew, was descended from a senior luminary on the GWR.

 

And in a recent BRM, Nick Palette, a rather talented modeller of all sorts of prototypes, revealed that he came from good railway stock - father John was GM of the Southern 40 years ago. 

I worked in Derby with Mike Stanier, who I believe was a nephew.

 

All part of the great Railway Family.

[KNP]

Peaceful day down in the harbour....

 

 

Edited December 9, 2023 by KNP

[KNP]

7750 now being weathered, a bit slow this process as I tend to use washes so I have to wait quite a while, normally overnight, for that days application to dry to see how its worked and if I need to add anymore. To early and you can reactivate the previous application.....

Bit more to go

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 9, 2023 by KNP

[westerner]

I see Misty is still not tied up.  I know she's just about to depar

[KNP]

2 minutes ago, westerner said:

I see Misty is still not tied up.  I know she's just about to depar

 

My plan was to have her fully moored but as the harbour is on the edge of the layout and I lean over it to get to the back of the layout I felt I would damage the rigging so both her and Snowflake live on a shelf and only come down onto layout for photo's.

Also the door handle is just the right height to hit the hull if it gets opened to far and the temporary door stop isn't there so that another reason not to have anything permanently moored.....

[MrWolf]

That really is damage limitation defined. They're beautiful models in their own right.

Have you noticed that you never seem to damage anything that you don't value in some way?

There's probably a theory on that somewhere.

[John Besley]

52 minutes ago, KNP said:

Peaceful day down in the harbour....

 

 

Even the seagulls have gone...

[MrWolf]

They will have gone inland for the winter I expect..

[Andrew P]

1 hour ago, KNP said:

Peaceful day down in the harbour....

 

Now then young Kevin, you have been told before about climbing up that pole to take photographs. And if you tear your trousers your Dad will be having more than a few words with you.

[gismorail]

5 minutes ago, Andrew P said:

Now then young Kevin, you have been told before about climbing up that pole to take photographs. And if you tear your trousers your Dad will be having more than a few words with you.

In other words ‘Wait till your Father gets home ‘ 

[westerner]

1 hour ago, MrWolf said:

They will have gone inland for the winter I expect..

More likely to the nearest landfill.

[5BarVT]

1 hour ago, John Besley said:

Even the seagulls have gone...

 

1 hour ago, MrWolf said:

They will have gone inland for the winter I expect..

 

7 minutes ago, westerner said:

More likely to the nearest landfill.

Or school playground . . .

except that this is the 30s and food debris in the playground was probably 30+ years in the future!

Paul.