RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted June 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 22, 2017 A blue class 45 with sealed beam headlights.......surely got to be a better seller than a number of basically similar niche 37s in liveries that only seem to last a year or two . I've been buying on eBay for years and have noticed 70s/80s BR blue locos always seem to go for a premium, either the manufacturers are not producing enough of them or there are an awful lot of 70s/80s BR blue layouts we don't know about ! I agree that these 37s are quite niche but surely this is the point of Limited Editions. It brings the more unique and different locos to the market for the people that want them. I'm sure that the DRS liveries and other liveries would be very popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted June 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 22, 2017 They are not minor differences the nose side grilles are completely different as 609 is a refurbished body and 038,059, 069 and 219 are not. Thank you for letting me know. I wasn't aware of this. In that case 609 could be produced and if customers chose to they could ignore the differences if they wanted to and renumber it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted June 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) So a revised list of the locos that could be produced. This is a sensible amount and these locos could be produced with two changes to the tooling to incorporate the flush and headcode noses. Batch One 37606 & 37607 in DRS Compass livery as a twin pack 37608 in original DRS livery 37609 in DRS Revised livery Batch Two 37608 & 37611 in Europhoenix livery as a twin pack 37607 & 37612 if and when they recieve their new livery as a twin pack Surely this has to be worth some consideration. *37423 has been removed because I have been informed that it would require an upgrade to the tooling to incorporate the ETH sockets. 37610 has been removed because I doubt it would sell a minimum of 504 models in BR Large Logo Blue livery. 37608 and 37611 in plain DRS blue with Europheonix logos have been removed because no doubt the majority of people would want 608 in original DRS blue or 608 in Europhoenix livery and 611 in Europhoenix livery. 37038, 059, 069 and 218 have been removed because I have been informed that the grilles are different to that that 609 has. Edited June 22, 2017 by DRS Crewe On A Mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 So a revised list of the locos that could be produced. So when are you going to commission them all then? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 So a revised list of the locos that could be produced. This is a sensible amount and these locos could be produced with two changes to the tooling to incorporate the flush and headcode noses. As I have said before - the nose end of these models would be fairly easy for Bachmann to produce and swap to make these. The problem is that all these 37s have the extra headlight mounted on top of the cab roof between the air horns. That is a tooling change needed to the main body part of the model and that will be the reason why Bachmann have not done these yet and seem unlikely to do so given it would need a change to the mould to allow this, and extra wiring into it if it were to retain the ability to have a cab light as well. Those are costs and changes which Bachmann probably wont do - as the cab headlight mod to the tooling where it is probably scuppers this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted June 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2017 So a revised list of the locos that could be produced. This is a sensible amount and these locos could be produced with two changes to the tooling to incorporate the flush and headcode noses. Are you just going to whittle your wishlist down one loco at a time, until there's nothing on it and the thread is left to die in dignity!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted June 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2017 As I have said before - the nose end of these models would be fairly easy for Bachmann to produce and swap to make these. The problem is that all these 37s have the extra headlight mounted on top of the cab roof between the air horns. That is a tooling change needed to the main body part of the model and that will be the reason why Bachmann have not done these yet and seem unlikely to do so given it would need a change to the mould to allow this, and extra wiring into it if it were to retain the ability to have a cab light as well. Those are costs and changes which Bachmann probably wont do - as the cab headlight mod to the tooling where it is probably scuppers this. Thank you very much for letting me know about this. I had forgotten about the top light on these locos and I didn't consider that the main body tooling would need upgrading to produce these locos. I can now clearly understand why Bachmann haven't modelled these locos as yet. I was thinking that it might have been because of the noses, but if the main body needs upgrading to incorporate the top lights I would imagine that this would be costly. For a small amount of locos I can now see why this clearly isn't a priority. Thank you very much for the information. I really appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Are Rails of Sheffield intending to commission new models based on the companies that used Sheffield? Lots of options GC, MR, LNW, GN, LYR! Regards You've forgotten the Hull & Barnsley Railway which started running direct services between Hull & Sheffield in 1906. Davey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 LMS Standard left hand drive Compound in LMS crimson, seeing as Bachmann seem to be in no hurry to produce one in the most common and long-lived livery carried by the class. I gather they did used to frequent Sheffield from time to time... In fact you could do two, one in 1924 livery with the number on the tender and one in the later 1930s livery with the number on the loco. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bescotbeast Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 A blue class 45 with sealed beam headlights.......surely got to be a better seller than a number of basically similar niche 37s in liveries that only seem to last a year or two . I've been buying on eBay for years and have noticed 70s/80s BR blue locos always seem to go for a premium, either the manufacturers are not producing enough of them or there are an awful lot of 70s/80s BR blue layouts we don't know about ! We must be long overdue a class 45 with sealed beam headlights, more so than another 37. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted July 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) Just when you all thought the thread had withered......., and if anyone oat RoS is watching........ N Gauge Falcon. Please and thank you. Four livery options (albeit the first livery is tenuous). It has an association with the Master Cutler and the Sheffield Pullman, to boot. Edited July 14, 2017 by scottystitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Rails Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) Some cracking ideas here Great stuff, I will make a shopping list and see what happens! Edited July 22, 2017 by Oliver Rails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted July 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2017 Some cracking ideas here Great stuff, I will make a shopping list and see what happens! When you have a couple of spare moments,nip down to Cutler's Hall and have a look at a large piece of metal made by Firth Brown with a title proudly engraved on it.Surely,that's the city's pride.Model that...in several incarnations.....and they may even invite you to a Cutler's Lunch.Rails is a Sheffield firm..Can it not reproduce "The Master Cutler" in model form..both "n" and "OO" gauges.? Now there's an opportunity... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Some cracking ideas here Great stuff, I will make a shopping list and see what happens! New models: RHTT set, Mentor Coach, Class 170, GWR inspection saloon, Caroline inspection saloon Adaptations: Class 55 Deltic, with working head light. New liveries: Class 66 - 66775 HMS Argyle, 66957 Stephenson Locomotive Society, 66750 in blue or GBRf (with headlight mod), EWS/DB class 66 with different new headlight mod. Class 47 - 47701 Waverley in Fragonset, 47813 in Rail Operations Group, 47812 in new ROG livery (think numbers are right way round), 47804 in WCRC, Class 37 - 37116 in Transrail Blue, 37416 in EWS Royal Scotsman, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) New models: RHTT set, Mentor Coach, Class 170, GWR inspection saloon, Caroline inspection saloon Adaptations: Class 55 Deltic, with working head light. New liveries: Class 66 - 66775 HMS Argyle, 66957 Stephenson Locomotive Society, 66750 in blue or GBRf (with headlight mod), EWS/DB class 66 with different new headlight mod. Class 47 - 47701 Waverley in Fragonset, 47813 in Rail Operations Group, 47812 in new ROG livery (think numbers are right way round), 47804 in WCRC, Class 37 - 37116 in Transrail Blue, 37416 in EWS Royal Scotsman, Nice list and would especially welcome a RHTT Set pristine or weathered and yes more named sheds (especially 66775) with or without tooling mods would be good as well. As for further new models I think a Mk2f DBSO Set in Network Rail or DRS livery wouldn't go amiss. Edited August 2, 2017 by classy52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hawkins Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Nice list and would especially welcome a RHTT Set pristine or weathered and yes more named sheds (especially 66775) with or without tooling mods would be good as well. As for further new models I think a Mk2f DBSO Set in Network Rail or DRS livery wouldn't go amiss. A MK2f in DRS livery ? I certainly hope not, as I've only just received one from Britannia Pacific models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 A MK2f in DRS livery ? I certainly hope not, as I've only just received one from Britannia Pacific models Must admit never heard of Britannia Pacific until now thus taken a look at their website and models and yes they look nice but they're unpowered, being bespoke not sure they would be to everyone's taste hence why a new mainstream powered version of the DBSO from either Hornby or Bachmann would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted August 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2017 Must admit never heard of Britannia Pacific until now thus taken a look at their website and models and yes they look nice but they're unpowered, being bespoke not sure they would be to everyone's taste hence why a new mainstream powered version of the DBSO from either Hornby or Bachmann would be nice. The DBSO should be unpowered! It is a driving trailer. Cheers, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 The DBSO should be unpowered! It is a driving trailer. Cheers, Mike Yes I know but was thinking for the OO model to have them powered to take the strain off the other diesel model at the other end if you were to push-pull a full rake, it was just an observation and a suggestion nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted August 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2017 Yes I know but was thinking for the OO model to have them powered to take the strain off the other diesel model at the other end if you were to push-pull a full rake, it was just an observation and a suggestion nothing more. I don't see the need, even my Lima 47/7 coped with a full length push/pull set without issues. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I don't see the need, even my Lima 47/7 coped with a full length push/pull set without issues. Roy Perhaps for the wow factor or novelty value, we could all pretend it is the diesel generator that powers all the system controls within the DBSO and get Biff to do a sound project for it...the ultimate DBSO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Henriksen Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Must admit never heard of Britannia Pacific until now thus taken a look at their website and models and yes they look nice but they're unpowered, being bespoke not sure they would be to everyone's taste hence why a new mainstream powered version of the DBSO from either Hornby or Bachmann would be nice. Well, obviously Bachmann is making the DBSO, but there is no way Bachmann could justify the cost of tooling up a powered version of a non-powered prototype, particularly given how few they would actually sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted August 3, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3, 2017 Perhaps for the wow factor or novelty value, we could all pretend it is the diesel generator that powers all the system controls within the DBSO and get Biff to do a sound project for it...the ultimate DBSO. Yeahhhhhh... no. We could also pretend that mk3s are steam powered, but that would be equally crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Yeahhhhhh... no. We could also pretend that mk3s are steam powered, but that would be equally crazy. To quote the then Margaret Thatcher on her resignation, “What a good idea!” A comfy air-conditioned steam railmotor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Ok people calm down it was all tongue n' cheek, just relax and enjoy the wait for the forthcoming DBSO in 2018 which will hopefully include Network Rail and DRS liveries after the initial Scotrail/BR Blue & Grey editions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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