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Nice to be still breathing and waking up alive in the mornings Mike :jester:  Really Nice to see some old names and some old previous forum mates popping up again, have you all been in Hibernation? ..........Fillipe!.... :sarcastichand:  will the real Phil' please sign in!  :mosking: Wow! Ian! Sundays day out! i'm still recovering from a really great day ..it'll take some beating Ian...Thanks! :friends:

 

Sunday was a pleasure. 

 

I'm sure you'll have lots of idea's now for your railways. Flying Scotsman will be on display at Bury over the Easter weekend. Tornado and another, as yet unknown, loco will be running on the service trains.

 

I can't wait to see progress on the garden line and the paste table railway. I'm certain I won't be waiting long!  :mosking:

 

My own locomotive is being woken from it's slumbers and should be back in running condition by the weekend. 

 

It might be visiting one or two lines next month if all is well.

 

Ian

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Thanks Ian! I sure did get close up and personal with some famous loco's on Sunday :O  :yahoo:  I fancy going to the newish one at Preston Docks 'The Ribble valley railway' i think it's called??? I see it has a lot of industrial type locos etc. Will deffo' have to get a trip up to the Narrow Gauge West Lancs'  as well this year!  :)

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The Ribble Valley railway at Preston Docks won't disappoint - a fantastic collection though the run is fairly short. An ex work mate has a loco there - he has been working on her for years and finally steamed last year. She is a blue Hawthorn leslie 0-6-0 named Linda. 

 

https://ribblesteam.org.uk/exhibits/steam/hawthorn-leslie-3931-linda/

 

Brit15

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Thanks Ian! I sure did get close up and personal with some famous loco's on Sunday :O  :yahoo:  I fancy going to the newish one at Preston Docks 'The Ribble valley railway' i think it's called??? I see it has a lot of industrial type locos etc. Will deffo' have to get a trip up to the Narrow Gauge West Lancs'  as well this year!  :)

I'll contact you about the West Lancs. It's on Robs 16mm diary list so a chance for some of your stuff to run on a layout and when you're not running, to take a trip on the line.

 

Ian

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Cheers Ian i will keep in touch and i do get the local meets & events e-mailed to me by Rob' i re-joined the 16mm group last week and all my mags' etc came in the post yesterday, i thought it would be best to be a fully payed up member once again especially if i'm to travel and visit other members lines more in the future. I normally do my own thing and i'm not really into clubs and groups etc. but things change and surprisingly for me it's now best i change with them.    ;)

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O.R. i could never at the time and never ever will understand why such abuse could occur over what is meant to be just a hobby and pleasurable pastime, and why these mindless folk can't just keep their mouths shut and opinions to themselves, this is why i've kept to myself for years, unfortunately as i've seen on this forum there are still lot of opinionated folk about if you look hard enough......i just ignore them O.R. Shame you could be on the move again as i was looking forward to watching the new lines construction this Summer ...never mind onwards and upwards as they say and all could turn out a lot better for you.  :) ..... do like i do these days, and leave all the heavy lifting and moving stuff about to others  :yes:  

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Hi Bob, great to see you getting active again after the troubles of recent times. Sadly its basically a desert round here for any scale but working in 7/8ths means ploughing a lone furrow anyway as 16millers have in the past considered us to be "flat earthers" "eccentric no hopers" " brain dead" and other such abuse. I gave up my membership a very long time ago and do not intend to rejoin. However as you know we are considering another move and at SWMBO's suggestion we may go to an area where there is at least a model engineering society with a big garden rail section in a number of scales.

 

I hope it all works out good for you.

 

Regards.

 

Oi! There is less of a desert now that Bob has inspired many of us secret 16millers to show our wares on here. Albeit mine is still just a pile of mud and a few concrete blocks as yet (and lots of stock in boxes or half-made kits), but once the Rain Goddess has run out of moisture, that will change this summer.

 

I fully understand your views about the old attitude to 7/8ths. But I think you will be pleasantly surprised now in the 16mmNG Assoc - 7/8ths has quite a high following (which several manufacturers have encouraged). The old guard's puritanical approach to the hobby has been replaced by a much broader acceptance of other gauges, not least 45mm, and now scales. It is not even a capital offence to have "bought" something rather than have made it out of lollipop sticks and some brass sheet personally cut from the deck of HMS Invincible. If you ever feel the need for some compadres, I would earnestly suggest giving the Society the benefit of a second attempt at your hard earned £19 (or less if you are a coffin dodger)...whoops. A certain old fella has said I must not use that phrase any more, because it was offensive, rather than descriptive, and its use by a certain T. Wogan every morning on his popular radio broadcast fora couple of decades, was insufficient defence. Imagine I am Irish, slightly overweight, and irreplaceable.

 

If you are the "Oily Rag" that I recall from something past (I don't know what, I really can't remember), you are sorely missed. Just ignore the few, self-opinionated to$$ers that inhabit the Yahoo forum, mostly called Brian, Bill or something similar.

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Mike you are so spot on, and well yes! all those to$$ers do seem to be called Brian or Bill come to think of it. :jester: O.R. Please carry on mate and just do your great stuff, i'm sure it'll be well worth waiting for. Monday looks like a horrible day weather wise so i'll stay in and strip down my live steamers and hopefully try to learn and remember how to put them back together . :dontknow:  :mosking:  I cleared up the area where the subsidence is and brought the Chapel in for a tidy up and repaint yesterday, the gutters were hanging off it and the paint on the roof had worn right down to the resin again. Between showers today and tomorrow i'll try and get the track lifted and the lump hammer & chisel on the job. :bb:

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I'm not even a member of the 16mm group but as one is a friend I get invites to some of the local do's and very friendly they are too. There are a couple of 7/8ths modellers too, like me, and there's no scale or gauge nimbyisim. Not quite worth me joining as it's very much an interest rather than active modelling in the current place but I probably would if I get a place where I can have a garden line just for the sociability.

My G scale stuff still gets to run when a bunch of us meet up at a friends 45mm line too.

I think Bob's ignore button for the opinionated experts is the best approach. Just enjoy the trains ;)

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O.R. i'll patch up the slippage once again but if it ever gets any more serious, then it's the last time and i'll be giving up on it! :jester: Quite warm and pleasant in the Sun yesterday Aft' so i got stuck in....i had to go a lot deeper and demolish all the wall where the Chapel was on the corner, it had cracked all the mortar lines and most of the blocks were loose! As you can see i've quite a pile of left-over rubble. I've done away with two sets of points and the sidings. The points are on flee-bay now. :secret: I'll have a mad hour on it today and clear the rubble away. The cement mixing will have to wait a few days by the look of the weather forecast for this week. :no2:

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Thanks Mike. i will be back working somehow soon I hope before the Floor Monster in the workshop consumes any of the smaller bits I made for the railcar gearboxes. LOL! However Bob I'm glad that you have been able to shore up the subsidence. There has been no more slippage I take it? It must have been soul destroying to see that happen. I hark back a bit and often muse about your engine shed and its fitting out inside in readiness for when I finally get to make buildings. Look forward to seeing more.

 

regards

 

May I call you Oily, or is it Mr Rag for now?

 

I was going to refer you to another thread for your 7/8ths fix, but I see you have already found it! Mr James Hilton's very impressive constructions.

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A couple of years ago the first diesel shunter i built ..named 'The Blue Meany' got sold on and here's the pics' of it being taken out of the shed and into storage in the coal yard before transfer to a new home in the Midlands.

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All in all O.R. i retrieved over 600 pics'! :O Don't worry i won't post them all....well! not at once! :mosking:  Just taking my saddle tank (Roundhouse Katie) to bits at the mo' on the dining table and i'm toning down the weathering a bit whilst i'm fixing the regulator.  Heres some pics' i just found from a few years back during its construction, and some recently seen ones. 

 

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The small Allen key headed grub screw on the regulator arm from the servo on 'Warrior' kept coming loose so i filed a small flat onto the shaft after working out the correct position, and i put some thread-lock on it, all went back nice and tight so now hopefully i can control it a lot better than i did on its last steaming! I cleaned the loco up a lot as well and got rid of a bit of weathering. Some pics' of yesterdays doings with some more old ones thrown in.

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Old stuff! 

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Wonderful work there Bob - I like the canal basin, a bit like the one that was in Leigh, was it Bedford basiin ?, though it was the railway that ran into the tunnel there. Bit before my time.

 

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/index.cfm#zoom=17&lat=53.4945&lon=-2.5133&layers=168&b=1

 

I'm waiting for warmer weather to do a bit to my outdoor line - us Wiganers are not as hardy as yo Leithers !!!!!!!!  Eyup, currant bun's just shown up !!!

 

Brit15

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T'was Bedford basin Apollo :derisive:  Tunnel went down under the towns main railway station and to a coal drop on the canal. For a pie-eater tha knows a few things abawt Leyth! :D  I don't know about being fitter more like thicker for goin' owt in it! :crazy: All this has now gone on my railway  :cry: It all went when i got owd-er and ill-er and we had to raise it all up off the ground for better access etc, you could'nt beat the proper ground level line for plenty of healthy plants and especially for having some nice Green Grass around it, it's a bit harder trying to get the same effect two foot up in the air now  :derisive: but i try my best with planters on stilts...it could still do with some grass though :)

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Yes grovelling and crawling at ground level gets a bit hard as you get on a bit. As for Leigh I know it fairly well, part of my standby district (gas emergencies) in the 90's. We went out as far as Wogden & Chow Bent & Bongs !! (Walkden Westhoughton, Atherton & Tyldesley).

 

Chow Bent & Chequerbent, always got a bit confused with these !! Both had stations, Chow bent was renamed Howe Bridge on the Wigan-Tyldesley - Manchester Line

 

Chequerbent was on the old Kenyon - Leigh - Bolton line. Both were interesting lines (I have the superb Sweeney books).

 

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There's some reet funny nicknames around here for the towns and villages i do agree Apollo, there's one on't other side of Bowton called Knob End! :mosking: I always like going up Bag ( another stupid name)Lane at Atherton in the car, and looking at the remnants of the old cobbled station yard, but most has nearly vanished now, and i do like tracing up the route of the old Bolton to Leigh opened in 1830-ish from Bag Ln. to Chequerbent....Mr. Sweeneys books are superb and i've been to a few of his slide show/lectures that he used to give. In one of his books he says that there are stone sleepers still set in a field up Chequerbent from the 1830 line, they should still be there as i've only ever seen Cows in that field for the last 30 years. :) Edwardian many thanks i've more old pics to post yet...i better start drip feeding them from now on, well! until i can get the line back up and running, I'm getting older, poorer and a lot more infirm as the days go by, and it sure as heck makes you cut back a lot...not just on the railway stuff either :derisive: ....my advise to anybody doing a new garden line is think and plan it to be used for many years ahead and not just for now! I'd deffo' say get it off the ground from the start....now where's my 'firey Jack' gone.  :mosking:

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A few recently retrieved pics' from sometime in the last 12 years of my garden line in one form or another.

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The corner that i'm now having all the subsidence trouble with!

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A couple of years ago the first diesel shunter i built ..named 'The Blue Meany' got sold on and here's the pics' of it being taken out of the shed and into storage in the coal yard before transfer to a new home in the Midlands.

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All in all O.R. i retrieved over 600 pics'! :O Don't worry i won't post them all....well! not at once! :mosking:  Just taking my saddle tank (Roundhouse Katie) to bits at the mo' on the dining table and i'm toning down the weathering a bit whilst i'm fixing the regulator.  Heres some pics' i just found from a few years back during its construction, and some recently seen ones. 

 

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The small Allen key headed grub screw on the regulator arm from the servo on 'Warrior' kept coming loose so i filed a small flat onto the shaft after working out the correct position, and i put some thread-lock on it, all went back nice and tight so now hopefully i can control it a lot better than i did on its last steaming! I cleaned the loco up a lot as well and got rid of a bit of weathering. Some pics' of yesterdays doings with some more old ones thrown in.

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Old stuff! 

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All of the above?

 

'Bob' - Superb, imaginative modelling in a cleverly created environs - just fantastic!

 

If that hex head socket grub screw still comes loose even with the flat filed - try some resin based cyano (ie heat resistant) or one of the thread lock products for use around heat etc....

 

Kindest regards,

 

CME

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Agree with the curious names. I always have a laugh at this, and wonder how it got it's name. (interesting colliery railways off to the right).

 

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Back to garden railways, I spent an hour this sunny (now cloudy) afternoon cleaning the track with WD40 and an abrasive pad. 2 LGB 0-4-0's coupled together been running for an hour. I find if I run once a week the track will stay electrically clean till now till Autumn. I don't do what you do in the scenery department though Bob, my garden loop is purely a garden ornament, nice on those balmy evenings to have a BBQ, few beers and run a train or two. I often thought about live steam - but I think I'll stay electric. I built it for the lad back around 1996, he's now working away so I have to do all the labouring now - but the girls bring me a cuppa occasionally.

 

I keep looking at your wonderful weathering, buildings etc - Hmmmmmmm !!!

 

Brit15

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Nice to see the railway as it was and good to see you;re still out there and haven't yet given up on the line.

 

Warrior looks good in it's 'cleaned' condition. Very much like a working engine, Which it is.

 

Ian

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