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I would normally have been earning a crust these past two months, so I must finish off the road bridge tomorrow and then call it a day for a couple of months. I hope the images help people, whether now or in the future, who may be considering making a building. I certainly do not earn a crust making buildings, nor is it a labour of love with me, so I think it is just a matter of cutting out the first wall and then carrying on until you have a building. 

 

It doesn't seem so long ago that I worked on the signalbox in order to keep my mind of certain things, and now in less than four weeks I have all the basic structures needed to model Carrog. Slaters and Wills products are your friend....  :biggrin_mini2:

 

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The previous image was only the start colour. I next laid the bridge on its side and gave it a 'wash' of water containing Fairy Liquid to break down the surface resistance. Then my usual 'wash' of acrylic black & red mixture was brushed all over it while taking care to ensure it was all as wet at the same time....

 

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When the colour was dry on the surface of the bricks, the bridge was held under the tap to wash out all the wet stuff in the mortar courses....

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This left a pattern that is a not bad bit of weathering, and all done in less than 10 minutes. Naturally the underside and the roadside walls were done next in the same way....

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Individual stones were picked out with a dab of the weathering mix using a small brush. After the brick arch was sprayed orange-ish brick red the mortar courses were added with diluted  TamiyaColor matt anamel. When virtually dry, I wiped the surface of the bricks with a wet tissue (white spirit). Further weathering was added in corners. The the smoke effect was sprayed on with matt cellulose black....

 

 

Finally the whole structure was sprayed with Phoenic-Precision Satin varnish...

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Under the arch....

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Finally, a view over the bridge...

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That last image could very easily be taken as the real thing with the foreground shadow that of a vehicle about to cross the bridge. The only thing that lets it down as the total lack of potholes in the road surface!

 

Brilliant

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That last image could very easily be taken as the real thing with the foreground shadow that of a vehicle about to cross the bridge. The only thing that lets it down as the total lack of potholes in the road surface!

 

Brilliant

Being totally picky, the shadow would be seen after the vehicle had passed over the bridge, through the rear window. Unless they are now driving on the right in Wales!  :jester:

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Being totally picky, the shadow would be seen after the vehicle had passed over the bridge, through the rear window. Unless they are now driving on the right in Wales!  :jester:

 

 

Encountering some of the K#ob ends today coming back from a trip to Llansanan in a fair bit of snow, I think they have!!!!

 

 

Lovely work on the waiting room and the bridge Coachman, thanks for the tips with regards to painting and weathering stone.

 

Jinty ;)

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Another digression.  At first glance, the vehicle below looks like an LMS standard Period I coach, but look again. It has recessed door handles. One of the LMS Divisions must have required some coaches to suit lines with limited clearances (the Western and Midland Divisions already had some coaches with recessed door handles), and so the  Midland Railway design D1282 corridor third fitted the bill admirably seeing as it fitted in perfectly with the new mass-production assembly lines. However, it was given a new LMS diagram number to D1756, probably because it was put on a standard LMS design underframe. The batch were not built at Derby, but at the ex.LNWR works at Wolverton in 1924. They carried LNWR hemispherical dome roof vents....

 

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The Period I corridor thirds (to D1695) continued in production until 1928. In 1930, a spacious 60ft design with 6ft 6ins compartments and deeper windows was introduced. These coaches were used initially to upgrade Royal Scot services. Both are 4mm scale models, but it is likely I will replicate them in 7mm for Carrog Road, in fact I already have a Sidelines kit for the D1695....

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An LMS 60ft corridor composite. This coach is to D1898 rather than the more familiar D1925. It is also to Lot 728 of 1934 with torpedo roof vents, which makes a change from shell vents. The end pipes have to hang loose until the roof is attached.....

 

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An LMS 60ft corridor composite. This coach is to D1898 rather than the more familiar D1925. It is also to Lot 728 of 1934 with torpedo roof vents, which makes a change from shell vents. The end pipes have to hang loose until the roof is attached.....

 

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Leave 'em like that Coach so you can gauge the bridge for all your stock to pass under safely !

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Stanier resemblance.....

When William Stanier moved to the LMS, he initiated the fitting of a proprietary sliding window in new carriage stock built from 1933. Three years later, Collett at the GWR followed suit. But while the GWR kept to 6' compartments for it's third class passengers, Stanier gave LMS travelers rather more spacious 6' 3" and 6' 6" compartments. The coach illustrated is a GWR C70 corridor third using Comet sides and buffers on my underframes ...

 

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BR blood & custard in its various forms.

 

GWR C70 corridor third showing the typical Western Region narrow band above the windows...

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There was a marked difference between GWR and LMS Stanier stock once the paint was applied....

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LMS Stanier 60' corridor composite with a deep band above the windows as applied to all Period III coaches...

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The lower window level and greater spacing between windows is apparent even in third class...

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Period II stock also had a lower waistline but shallower windows than Stanier stock, which led to a very deep cantrail. However, the red band above the windows varied in depth and did not always fill the cantrail panel as shown here....

 

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This vehicle is an early 60' corridor third to D1782 built while the LMS was still building coaches with raised panelling....

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Despite the panelling, the Period II design was a marked step up from the previous Period I design with high waist illustrated below. This 57' D1756 was almost identical to a Midland Railway diagram...

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Note the painters treatment of the recessed door handles, filling the recess with carmine red paint. Once again, the red band above the windows was not full height despite the raised panelling...

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Hi Coach

 

I may have missed this elsewhere but do you have any particular tips for fixing droplights please?

 

Peter

Yes, my finger tips ....  :biggrin_mini2:

 

I am pretty thick skinned anyway......One need to be on forums.....but I also have the usual solderers burned finger tips which helps considerably when holding small items like droplight while one edge furthest from the finger is tagged with a spot of solder. The rest of the droplight is then easily soldered while pressing it down with a pointed file. I hope you can visualize this description.

 

95% of my own coach sides have the droplights etched in, but it is not always possible, the LMS Period II D1782 being one such case. 

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