RMweb Gold tom shaw Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Ian Blenk said: Some progress on No1 and No3. Wish now I'd put them in numerical order. 6 or 7 next? I look forward to seeing them finished Ian. No. 9 is a bit of an ugly duckling but would make a fantastic model. I've sent for two of these from LocoNstuff at £55 each: so I'll report back when I get them. Tom 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted January 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2021 The difficulty with No9 is that it's so low over the outer axles, I couldn't find any reasonable way of driving them. We had the same problem with the LSW electric DS74 - and this is even lower - eventually solved by designing it as a 2-4-2, inner axles geared together, outer ones running (unpowered) as pony trucks and taking the bogie frames with them. The LocoNstuff bogies look interesting if a bit on the expensive side. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I was just too late to see the Harton system. I have seen No9 at Tanfield and marvelled at it. My only experience of electric industrial systems was limited to the Kearsley Power Station system. One of their locos is at Tanfield. I organised a trip for our school model railway club to the system. They were very accomodating, even gave us a loco to go round the system. Chris. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) https://www-anglingdirect-co.uk.imgeng.in/media/catalog/product/cache/b0feda7636da30efa34d4678755a2414/k/o/korda-dark-matter-rig-putty-4_1.jpg Try using this as weights instead of lead, very dense and can be put in all those hard to reach places! Tungsten Putty. Edited January 30, 2021 by Ian Blenk 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Sandhole said: I was just too late to see the Harton system. I have seen No9 at Tanfield and marvelled at it. My only experience of electric industrial systems was limited to the Kearsley Power Station system. One of their locos is at Tanfield. I organised a trip for our school model railway club to the system. They were very accomodating, even gave us a loco to go round the system. Chris. Back in the day I used to work on colliers, we frequently loaded at Harton in the mid 70's up until the mid 80's when they opened the Tyne Coal berth at Jarrow. Everyone was very obliging, lots of footplate rides up to Hilda sidings (and back). Also used to load at Dunston & Jarrow on the Tyne plus S'land and Blyth. Went once to Seaham, but to load scrap not coal. Happy days, (well not really, it was hard bloody work especially in winter) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Michael Edge said: The difficulty with No9 is that it's so low over the outer axles, I couldn't find any reasonable way of driving them. We had the same problem with the LSW electric DS74 - and this is even lower - eventually solved by designing it as a 2-4-2, inner axles geared together, outer ones running (unpowered) as pony trucks and taking the bogie frames with them. The LocoNstuff bogies look interesting if a bit on the expensive side. Yep, I couldn't really figure a way to get it to move and I don't think I could do the bogie/buffer assemblies justice. I only saw it in service once at Westoe in the early 80's or maybe late 70's. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 27 minutes ago, Ian Blenk said: https://www-anglingdirect-co.uk.imgeng.in/media/catalog/product/cache/b0feda7636da30efa34d4678755a2414/k/o/korda-dark-matter-rig-putty-4_1.jpg Try using this as weights instead of lead, very dense and can be put in all those hard to reach places! Tungsten Putty. Ian, did you get it local and what's the weight you get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, long island jack said: Ian, did you get it local and what's the weight you get. 30 g in a small tin, I went on line Angling Direct 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tom shaw Posted January 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Ian Blenk said: Yep, I couldn't really figure a way to get it to move and I don't think I could do the bogie/buffer assemblies justice. I only saw it in service once at Westoe in the early 80's or maybe late 70's. Would be interesting as a static modelled, or pulled around "dead" by another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, tom shaw said: Would be interesting as a static modelled, or pulled around "dead" by another. Or double ended on the weedkiller! Edited January 30, 2021 by Ian Blenk 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted January 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2021 Talk of No.9 makes my knees go weak - having grown up in sight of it working the south end of the colliery. I was there last the day before it left for Tanfield. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 11 hours ago, Sandhole said: I was just too late to see the Harton system. The first job I had was as a delivery driver for a wholesale greengrocer in Sunderland. Apart from local shops, he had the contract for the local fire stations and the NCB canteens. Fire stations were a nightmare - the canteens were always up several flights of steps, and half-hundredweight sacks of potatoes are no fun after the tenth! The NCB canteens were another matter, given the railway interest! I deliverd to both ends of the Harton / Westoe system as well as Monkwearmouth Colliery, and one had to be on the lookout for locos - especially silent electric ones - when driving around colliery premises. It's no wonder that I'm a little overweight nowadays - you never left a canteen without a mug of tea and a bacon / sausage butty, and after a couple of collieries and two or more fire stations in a morning - well, you weren't in a hurry for lunch! Oh - and then there were the shipyards ...... Doxfords was good for steam locos and bacon butties! John Isherwood. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 13 hours ago, New Haven Neil said: Talk of No.9 makes my knees go weak - having grown up in sight of it working the south end of the colliery. I was there last the day before it left for Tanfield. You know what I should give it a go! Need to finish 1 & 3 then I have a 2NOL which is 3/4 done for South Gallions and an Avonside for Tarnhouse Fell, so no breath holding! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted January 31, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2021 No9 is a sorry sight now after many years left out in the open but at least it hasn't yet suffered the fate of No1 at Tanfield. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 This is the condition of No.9 at Tanfield , taken last March..... No.2 at Beamish isn't exactly in sparkling condition..... 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 They have deteriorated since last I saw them how difficult would it be to get No2 under cover 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted January 31, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2021 No2 was plastered with a thick layer of what was supposed to be protective paint - it doesn't seem to have got significantly worse than when we measured it in 2005. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Michael Edge said: No2 was plastered with a thick layer of what was supposed to be protective paint - it doesn't seem to have got significantly worse than when we measured it in 2005. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted January 31, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2021 When was that photo taken? This is what it looked like in 2005 - has it been repainted at last? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 This is what the adjacent excavator looked like last March... The tree growth along the fence line has not helped the condition of #2 as there has been considerable growth between your 2005 photo and my 2020 ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Michael Edge said: When was that photo taken? This is what it looked like in 2005 - has it been repainted at last? May 2007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Some more progress on Harton No1, it must have been towed up to Tarnhouse 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 No 1 finished and awaiting paint shop, some progress with the weed killer. Juggling between this and Tarnhouse, which is elsewhere on this site. Wot Larks. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 looked a little cleaner in 2011 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted February 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 hours ago, long island jack said: looked a little cleaner in 2011 they seem to have lost interest in the railway side of Beamish.. this is in a state, some of the wagons are rotting way.. shame really.. Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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