DavidB-AU Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 EMU overhaul includes heritage liveryhttp://www.railwaygazette.com/news/traction-rolling-stock/single-view/view/emu-overhaul-includes-heritage-livery.html 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPH 603 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Looks good. Nice to see these companies can see their train's heritage, unlike various other operators who paint their trains in stupidly ugly colours and vinyls! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Nice - and made a good job of the Equality Act door contrast too Let's hope it eventually ends up in the NRM collection as the first example of this type of ground-breaking 2nd generation EMU as none of the PEP vehicles survived 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted December 22, 2017 Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 Another picture here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BRblue313201.jpg Cheers David 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 08221 Posted December 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2017 Looks good and the full depth grey doors do not detract too much from the original livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Nice - and made a good job of the Equality Act door contrast too Let's hope it eventually ends up in the NRM collection as the first example of this type of ground-breaking 2nd generation EMU as none of the PEP vehicles survived And then maybe Locomotion can do a model of one. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 And then maybe Locomotion can do a model of one. That would be a nice thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium HillsideDepot Posted December 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2017 Well done Southern! I'm probably the only person who thinks this, but blue/grey is such a smart, clean, simple, yet effective livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPH 603 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 I agree. That livery does indeed look very smart on 313 201. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted December 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) Now if they could hurry up and get it back to the Sussex Coast, we are a little short of serviceable 313's at the moment!! Apparently it is not supposed to be getting white double arrows on it but knowing my colleagues I am sure there must be some lurking in a dusty forgotten box in a corner of the Lovers Walk Depot stores somewhere that will mysteriously find their way onto it. Still five years (at least) to go until the farewell railtour... Edited December 22, 2017 by John M Upton 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted December 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2017 Looks good. Nice to see these companies can see their train's heritage, unlike various other operators who paint their trains in stupidly ugly colours and vinyls! If only more train companies could do what Norfolk Southern did with their heritage fleet...that was a marvellous initiative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southof1E top tmd Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 313201 back in blue dragged by Network rail 313121 with a 350 trying to spoil matters at Leighton this afternoon! Unit returning to Brighton from wolverton works Happy Xmas to all at RM web NR 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 If only more train companies could do what Norfolk Southern did with their heritage fleet...that was a marvellous initiative.UP did something similar (and picked the wrong version of SP...). It does happen in other places though. For example GWR and their HST power cars (I'd love to have seen a full set, but that probably would have ended up scattered within a month), SWT did a few mk1 units in historic colours. Chiltern had a green bubble car...Wonder if anything similar might happen to the more modern types - will Stagecoach colours come back (assuming SWR ever apply their brand...) when the 450s are coming to the end? How about Connex colours on a 375? Seems ridiculous now, but I doubt anyone in 1976 thought there would be much nostalgia for blue and grey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2017 I cannot see one franchisee painting any of it's fleet in another franchisee's colours IMHO BR colour schemes are somewhat different to franchise "branding" Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crompton 33 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) One more pic of 313201 on it's way to (BI) Lovers walk. https://www.flickr.com/photos/gibbo53/39195073372/in/photolist-ek27cS-rcdYRn-22HwZM7-rtfyU3 Edited December 22, 2017 by crompton 33 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted December 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2017 313201 back in blue dragged by Network rail 313121 with a 350 trying to spoil matters at Leighton this afternoon! Unit returning to Brighton from wolverton works Happy Xmas to all at RM web NR Assuming it is moving and has an air supply from the tractor unit, why are some of the the door lights illuminated? Not that it is in service, but I wouldn't expect to see it like that. Does bring back memories of catching them from KX to FP in the late 70s. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted December 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) There should be no BIL (Bodyside Indicator Light) lights lit at all unless it was stationary at the time of the photo and both cab doors platform side were open. The only thing I can think of is that the electrics are incompatible, 313121 probably being original spec door controls and interlock whereas 313201 has a modified system with the central coach Conductors Panel which could be causing the BIL lights to accidentally come on. 313201 is definitely not powered up, only dead in tow as the tail lights are not lit, hence the tail lamp provided. Edited December 23, 2017 by John M Upton 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 If only more train companies could do what Norfolk Southern did with their heritage fleet...that was a marvellous initiative. NS and UP don't do it for any altruistic reason. It's simply to protect their intellectual property. If a livery is in use, they can charge more for model companies to reproduce it. Cheers David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 I'm probably the only person who thinks this, but blue/grey is such a smart, clean, simple, yet effective livery. You're in a much bigger club than you might think. Blue/grey. Simple. Effective. Yes, I'd even go so far as to say smart. Things like the Colas livery and the toyshop vinyls that most TOCs wrap their units in just make me want to revisit my lunch, sorry... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunburnt Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 You're in a much bigger club than you might think. Blue/grey. Simple. Effective. Yes, I'd even go so far as to say smart. Things like the Colas livery and the toyshop vinyls that most TOCs wrap their units in just make me want to revisit my lunch, sorry... I love blue and grey but must admit the reason this looks so good is because it's clean and shining! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Why was this unit being dragged by another? Surely if it had just been given a repaint it should be in a condition to work under its own power? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Why was this unit being dragged by another? Surely if it had just been given a repaint it should be in a condition to work under its own power? No pantograph on the -2xx units? At least not on this one, judging by the photo linked in post 16 above, which also shows those side lights illuminated away from a station. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted December 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2017 For example GWR and their HST power cars (I'd love to have seen a full set, but that probably would have ended up scattered within a month) AIUI they did consider it, but the passenger coaches would have had to comply with the equality legislation, whereas by just doing the non-passenger carrying power cars they could make them as authentic as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 No pantograph on the unit in this video clip at Watford: https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/944490379960901632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Southern's fleet of 313/2 sets only work off the third rail so the pantographs have been removed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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