gobbler Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Got a little of my mojo back recently. I've had to move the ends around inside to reflect where the corridor doors are in the ends, these have been guessedimated as I have no interior pictures. Also I've added the windows to one end. Also I've started the restaurant car. The mojo comes and goes in dribs and drabs, so I make the most of it when I get it. Cheers Scott Edited January 13, 2019 by gobbler 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I've been waiting for Tony Wright to take a picture of the 1888 set as his was always going to be far better than anything I could produce. Here is one he's kindly sent me, taken at Stevenage last weekend. Picture by Tony Wright. To recap the way here, 3 of the vehicles (the two luggage brakes and the third) are from Mike Trice Shapeways kits, the other 4 vehicles use laser cut sides through a friend and done by York Modelmaking. Floors are Paxolin, 14mm W irons from Comet, other components from MJT/Mike Trice. Transfers are HMRS Pressfix and the lining was done with a Bob Moore pen. If anyone's contemplating these specific vehicles, just a couple of traps for the unwary - only the luggage brakes have lower footsteps and one of the composites (127) has toplights instead of vents and panels on two compartments on one side only. I've had a few people ask me about producing these and the Mike Trice parts are undoubtedly the way to go. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 Got a little bit of the 'old mojo' today. Have made the ventilators above the doors.....every little is a step closer to completion. Next will be adding the hinges. Cheers for now Scott 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 With this mojo coming and going, i thought I'd make the most of it. Hinges on, glazing done and the corridor connectors made. That's it for tonight, Monday night I will be mostly doing the rib details on the ends. Cheers for looking Scott 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) Bit more mojo tonight...... The corridor window bars and roof done. Not the most popular of steps next.....shaping the roof, but I cant do any of that until the roof has properly dried and then out with humbrol grey or Squadton green putty. Cheers Scott Edited January 22, 2019 by gobbler 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Half way down page 3 on my suburban coach build thread I started a CCT, at the time, I cut and scribed both types of CCT in Nick Camplings book, well in between waiting for the putty on the roof to dry, I've made a start on completing this too. The last day or two I've been making the roof dormers and have now got this far :- Whilst I've got this far with my GE fill brake corridor Well I seem to be making the most of my returning mojo. Thanks for looking, Scott. Don't forget, any crits, queries or questions about my builds, cont be shy......... Edited January 25, 2019 by gobbler 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) Well, my mojo is still hanging around...... The GE corridor full brake roof is progressing, waiting for the roof paint to dry before another rub down. The CCT is getting there too, have added the angle iron details and some relief around the the rows of top lights Soon be time to give the CCT a lick of paint before it gets glazed and the roof made.....but what colour? My 1st CCT is heavily weathered Humbrol Matt 62 What do you guys think? What colour shall I do this CCT? Cheers Scott Edited January 26, 2019 by gobbler 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2019 The mojo may be hanging around, but you're not! The colour you've painted the first one looks OK to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon4470 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Hi Scott The Matt humbrol 62 looks ok to me - just been using some Vallejo flat earth today and it looks similar. (I’ve been told that the flat earth colour is a good match the LNER coach brown). I have only recently caught up with this thread. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed reading the posts and I amazed by what you can create from sheets of plastic. I’m hoping to pick up a few tips along the way.....at the moment i’m busy building coach kits but it won’t be long before i’ll need to scratch build some coaches (starting with a D45 BG I think) Jon 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) Jon Better late than never, I'm always here to answer any questions you may have, or if think there's a better way of doing something, please feel free to chip in with your thoughts and ideas. If you can get the sides looking good, you're half way there, as these are the most noticeable parts of the build you'll see. The next bit is how you decide to support the roof, I have found to my way of working, getting the compartment dividers to act as the roof formers has worked best for me, however getting the roof top radii all the same can be a bit of a challenge. But this can be sorted/camouflaged with the I use strips of plastic and the use of squadron green/ Humbrol fine grey filler sanded down. I was later told that this is the Bill Bedford method, and I thought I was being clever to devise this way myself. Hope you do have a go a scratch building a coach and post your progress here or add a link, so we can see what you've been up to. With the BG there's a lot of top lights to cut out, but shouldn't present too much of a problem. Just need a sharp scalpel, plenty of 10A's will help. Although getting the radiused ends is something I haven't done. The roof lines of all the carriages and coaches I've done have been straight to the ends. This will be interesting to see how you cope with this, but don't let it put you off, good luck. Cheers Scott Edited January 28, 2019 by gobbler 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 And begins the CCT roof...... Then I'll concentrate on the underside and bogies of both vehicles. The CCT will have Fox bogies and of course the full brake will have the GE bogies.... More later Thanks for looking Scott 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon4470 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Hello Scott Thanks for the words of encouragement! Before I start a new project I must finish off the 4 coaches and 2 wagons on the workbench....at least then I should have some space to work in! I have a vague idea about the BG. I’m thinking about using MJT components for everything except the sides. The end can have the beading filed off - although I’ll have to check that the radiused corners are feasible. If not then it will be built up sheets of plastikard. Initially I was thinking about using brass for the sides - but the top lights put me off. My wife has a scan and cut machine so my thoughts are that I will try to master this technology and use that to cut the plastic sides. I’m not sure what thickness it will cut but I’m pretty sure i’ll Be laminating layers to make the sides. I’m hoping that this approach will be evolutionary I.e from kits to a bit of scratch building. I’lllet you know how I get on. In the meantime I will continue to enjoy your work! Jon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) Well, I've been a bit busy these last few evenings. 1st up the CCT, the roof has had its final rub down and is ready for some paint Then, there's the beginnings of the GE (top) and Fox bogies (bottom). These is wear this projects will grind to a halt for a while. I need to make a visit to John Dutfields in Chelmsford to get some more top hat pin point bearings, wheels and 4 more sheets of 0.75mm thk plasticard. So whilst I wait to go shopping, I've started something else...... 2 x 19ft GE Van's. Have cut and scribed 4 sides, and have cut the 2 bases, 4 ends and 10 roof formers. The ends and formers will be profiled and the ends will have the plank detail scribed later. I'm trying something slightly different with the ends.......I've made them with the headstock incorporated to the height. I'd normally only make them 0.75mm higher than the roof formers and add the headstock and sole bars afterwards. I know I'm the inside measurement of the W irons is 24mm. I'll make these out of 0.75mm like I've done on my horse box, cattle wagon and full brake. Happy modelling everyone. Scott Edited February 1, 2019 by gobbler Typo 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) The GE vans are taking shape nicely. Change of plan, the ends were cut down as i had trouble with getting the base at the correct height with the headcstocks All the sides put together and the roof on. I opted to make the roof out of 0.5mm this time as the drawing i have in Peter Tatlow's book shows it to be quite thin. Seeing the wagon built by dseagull has inspired me to do something a bit smaller Cheers Scott Edited February 6, 2019 by gobbler 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) Started to tinker with the door details now, 3 more to do to get to this stage. Not looking too bad, even if I say so myself. Got to scribe the vertical lines for the doors, add some hinge detail and do something with the locking bar..... Thats about it. Cheers Edited February 6, 2019 by gobbler 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 9, 2019 Author Share Posted February 9, 2019 Just a matter of building up the layers of detail, hoping i won't run out of the micro strip I'm using (which i have. Oh well there the ventilated ends to be getting on with. I can also start work on my bogies because ive got myself some of these. This will keep me busy until i came get some more micro strip. Maybe more later. Thanks for looking Scott 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 Whilst the GE vans are having a bit of a dry, the fox bogies have started to take shape. The basic shape is done, super glue the pin point bearings in and then start to build up the details. These will dry nicely over night. Once hardend up, they will be easier to hold while i work on them. Mustn't forget, I've got the GE bogies too, to be getting on with Thats it for now, thanks for looking Scott 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) Well...........the bogies have moved on a smidge compared to the picture taken last night, i think you'll agree. Just a couple of bits of stretched sprue to put in the thin plate of the central double springs. However the plastic needs to dry before i can drill the holes necessary. As a bit of info to those that have dropped in, once the frames have been made, i super glue the top hat bearings in, super glue a small 1.2mm thk rectangle on top. I then back fill around the axles with putty, thats the bit of green you can see. From there its a matter of making the other details and building it up. Ive tested both bogies with the wheels in and both are free running and flat with no wobble. Thats it for now, thanks for looking Scott Edited February 10, 2019 by gobbler 9 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted February 10, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2019 You're scratchbuilding really is great! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 I've mounted the bodies for the CCT She runs nice a smoothly over points,which is a bonus, they're continuing to dry and harden. While I'm waiting for them to cure fully, I've started these.... The W irons for my two GE vans. Only another 7 to do. Scott 13 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Gough Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Which thickness of plastikard do you use for the 'W' irons Scott? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 On 15/02/2019 at 07:35, Nick Gough said: Which thickness of plastikard do you use for the 'W' irons Scott? Nick, The W irons, along with all the main parts of my builds are made out of 0.75mm thk. That's the thickest I've used on all builds. Anything thicker, such as the axle boxes will be laminated. I'll post a pic later. Scott 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted February 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2019 Hi Scott, Apologies if I've missed this - what do you use as a former for creating the roofs? I was going to use this technique of using individual "planks" for creating some 3 arc roofs for brass GWR 4 wheel coach kits that I have no roofs for. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) On 15/02/2019 at 07:35, Nick Gough said: 57xx On my latest carriages I've used the compartment dividers to support the roof. where some vehicles do not have a natural compartment I've estimated that a support every 30-40mm should suffice to support the roof. These however cannot be removed. If you look at my suburban coach thread below, I've used a similar method for the roof, however I had made the roof removable but cutting off the top radius and gluing a piece of plasticard either side of the compartment dividers so the roof radius slots into position. The ends were problematic though. If I remember correctly.....I numbered each compartment divider, glued the tabs either side, put all the radii back and glued a couple of roof strips along each length. Be careful you don't stick the radii pieces back on though, otherwise you won't have a removable roof. Also look out for the position of each roof radius, it is easy to misalign them and get a wonky roof. If you look at the CCT pictures above, you'll see how I've supported the roof, this also adds strength to the whole carriage Scott Edited February 22, 2019 by gobbler 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 The GE wagons have moved on a bit..... All the frames/bracing is now complete, the 'W' irons are on, no wobble and they run very freely too. They are both at the same state of completion. So tonight I'll be working on the axle details. I'll post more later as i progress. Thanks for looking Scott 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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