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Good to see you back producing your lovely models.

 

Do you have a sequence that you follow to get the sides and ends properly aligned at the bottom of the hoppers (the part where the sides angle inwards as well as the ends). I found that very difficult to get joined up properly.

 

I’d be grateful for any advice - you seem to get things accurately aligned.

 

Thanks

Jon

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8 hours ago, Jon4470 said:

Good to see you back producing your lovely models.

 

Do you have a sequence that you follow to get the sides and ends properly aligned at the bottom of the hoppers (the part where the sides angle inwards as well as the ends). I found that very difficult to get joined up properly.

 

I’d be grateful for any advice - you seem to get things accurately aligned.

 

Thanks

Jon

 

Thanks Jon,

I draw it all out on paper first to make sure everything fits.  When cutting out the plastic bits, you got to remember to make allowances for the different thicknesses. 

 

To be honest, the long slope bits came out 2mm too long, which I just trimmed down. The bottom chute is a little too wide and is  tight to the inside of a OO wheel sets.

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On 02/05/2022 at 21:45, Barry O said:

Have you tried

 

Barrowmore

 

They have the BR wagon diagrams on their site.. follow the British Rail link on the front page of their website

 

Baz

Yeah found those, the diagrams are fairly basic Screenshot_20220429-083010_Drive.jpg.a3e8a7c0f38b7ea9827a878aa8b9cba1.jpg

 

 

so I've made a preliminary drawing as below.  Was hoping if anyone could point me in the direction of a book like Peter Tatlow's with drawings of a similar detail

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So hopefully I'll be able to make a couple off wagons like these.

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cheers

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But until I finish these 20t'ers the 13's will be on hold.  Have added the outside brakes on all 5 wagons and just starting to add the spring details

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Thanks for looking

 

TTFN

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On 03/05/2022 at 22:05, gobbler said:

Yeah found those, the diagrams are fairly basic Screenshot_20220429-083010_Drive.jpg.a3e8a7c0f38b7ea9827a878aa8b9cba1.jpg

 

 

so I've made a preliminary drawing as below.  Was hoping if anyone could point me in the direction of a book like Peter Tatlow's with drawings of a similar detail

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So hopefully I'll be able to make a couple off wagons like these.

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cheers

Hi Gobbler, There is a full set of drawings in the NRM at York. You can book into the reading room and ask for the drawings to be made available (in advance) and then photograph the drawings for your own personal use...drawing numbers here...(use 'control and F' to locate the '13t hopper' drawings)... https://www.railwaymuseum.org.uk/sites/default/files/2019-01/London %26 North Eastern Carriage and Wagon.pdf

 

Cheers

Duncan

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The next bits are done.  I've fitted one set of wheels, no wobble and free running.  Next will be adding the axle boxes, a layer over the frame sides to hide the joints on the end and give a bit of relief around the axle boxes.   Then to add a lip over the the top edge.  The gaps in the bogie frames were used to reinforce the bogie sides and help keep the square.

 

Any Q's don't hesitate to ask 

 

Cheers

 

Scott

 

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Even more done tonight, quite literally 'on a roll'.  The bogies are coming along quite nicely.  Started work on the axle box details, done in my usual way. 

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The coaches now have sole bars and headstocks.

 

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Any Q's or ideas from my fellow scratch builders are always welcome.

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I have only recently found your thread, and am enjoying following your build.

May I ask how you complete your axle boxes? It appears as though you had glued a piece of plasticard to the axle, and then you mention 'axle boxes filled'.

 

Best regards,

 

Tom D

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1 hour ago, Bucoops said:

What's the difference between Gresley and Thompson bogies?

 

In reality they were quite different and the Thompson design was discarded in favour of a reversion to the better riding Gresley in fairly short order.

 

In Bachmann's world they're the same thing, but called Thompsons because they make them for their Thompson coaches.

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On 13/11/2022 at 15:33, Tom D said:

I have only recently found your thread, and am enjoying following your build.

May I ask how you complete your axle boxes? It appears as though you had glued a piece of plasticard to the axle, and then you mention 'axle boxes filled'.

 

Best regards,

 

Tom D

Hi  Tom

 

Thanks for asking.  Basically.....

1. once the bearings are pushed through the holes a quick clean up to take any nipples left by the machining process

 

2. I then secure with super glue, I cut small rectangular pieces the dimension of the axle box and glue again with super glue

 

3. Once all that is dry, fill in around the bearing with some squadron green filler.

 

4. Square off any excess filler, then add some basic details  (I'll be posting some more pictures soon of my bogies)

 

Any Q's, don't hesitate to ask.  Hopefully this will inspire you to make some of your own stock.  Post pictures on here or start your own thread.

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Bogies are coming along.  The top edge is looking good.  Have done a little bit of detailing to the exle boxes.  Contemplating how to tackle the underside details, will post some more pictures soon.

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I'm thinking of skipping the rivet detail on the bogies.....

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