AGR Model Store Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Lastest Hornby Gresleys now in Stock - https://www.agrmodelrailwaystore.co.uk/index.php?route=product/search&search=LNER Gresley 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 hours ago, JamieR4489 said: I think it's both. On my BR buffet it seems to be rubber for the 'concertina' part and then a plastic end. Being only familiar with the Maunsells in Hornby's recent range, I assumed gangways were rigid plastic on other types as well ........... the old rubbery things Mainline used to fit were far too stiff to have been coupled - if they'd ever met, that is ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted August 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 hours ago, AGR Model Store said: Lastest Hornby Gresleys now in Stock - https://www.agrmodelrailwaystore.co.uk/index.php?route=product/search&search=LNER Gresley Not for long it would seem. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Model Store Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, gwrrob said: Not for long it would seem. Dam, But Still a few left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I await a decent end photo of these to confirm if there is any tumblehome ? All photos are side on which makes you wonder. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 29, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 29, 2019 They aren’t new toolings Mick so will have the same lack of tumblehome as previous ones. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 29, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 29, 2019 One of the rails images of the Full Brake shows it missing the bit that sticks out the side to see out of (what’s this actually called by the way). Hopefully just a one off. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium The White Rabbit Posted August 29, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said: One of the rails images of the Full Brake shows it missing the bit that sticks out the side to see out of (what’s this actually called by the way). Hopefully just a one off. Ducket. (Or guard's ducket). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2019 That’s the word I was looking for lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 9 hours ago, The White Rabbit said: Ducket. (Or guard's ducket). Co-incidentally, probably what the owner of that model will say when he gets it home and sees the part missing... 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dominion Posted August 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2019 Sorry to say it seems to be missing form the one Hattons have on their website too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 On hattons site compared with R 4530 A, pre owned one, there's clearly difference, missing the duck-et. I will wait with ordering one, production fault? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold resin001 Posted August 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) Received my full brake from Hattons today ; also missing the ducket , otherwise it looks ok - swapped the wheels for Bachmann ( Hornby wheel spec changed a while back - they ride on the sleeper chairs when using C&L Finescale track ) Edited August 30, 2019 by resin001 Hornby sp 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) So both rails and hattons full brakes lack the Ducket Just when Hornby were producing what are otherwise mightly fine models again. Something has to go wrong. Very poor QC. EDIT - spelling of brake! Edited August 30, 2019 by G-BOAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, G-BOAF said: So both rails and hattons full breaks lack the Ducket Just when Hornby were producing what are otherwise mightly fine models again. Something has to go wrong. Very poor QC. Definitely a shame. They have the team looking great again and they do that. Hopefully gets rectified fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted August 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said: Hopefully gets rectified fast. I can't see them doing anything about it and they won't have any spare duckets in the warehouse here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, gwrrob said: I can't see them doing anything about it and they won't have any spare duckets in the warehouse here. I mean basically the factory in China failed to either fit the parts (or possibly never prepared them in terms of not removing them from the sprue). Assuming Hornby didn't make an error in the the parts list and assembly instructions to their factory, the factory should at very least suppy the parts free to Hornby to enable them to be sent out to customers who are willing to fit their own. A more thorough solution would be sending the models back to China to have the parts added. Hornby should be enforcing its contracts with its suppliers. Edited August 30, 2019 by G-BOAF 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbridge Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I find it ironic that people are up in arms about the teak finish, yet completely ignore the errors in the actual shape of the coaches. Indeed some stating they were Hornbys best coaches. Hornby got the bodies horribly wrong, but seemingly that doesn't matter. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 If they all are missing the Ducket ?, MJT do a very cheap etch with the needed part, agreed you shouldn't have to do so !. https://www.dartcastings.co.uk/mjt/2817.php 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headstock Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Denbridge said: I find it ironic that people are up in arms about the teak finish, yet completely ignore the errors in the actual shape of the coaches. Indeed some stating they were Hornbys best coaches. Hornby got the bodies horribly wrong, but seemingly that doesn't matter. Hornby got the underframes horribly wrong in almost every major dimension bar length, even the bogies are wrong on the full brake. If they were locomotives the internet would shut down. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold resin001 Posted August 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2019 The photo on Hornby's web site also shows the ducket missing from the Brake Coach 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) Three generations of Teak. 1st pic is the second run, E11000, 2nd is new Buffet 21611, 3rd is the original full brake 2426- with ducket! Edited August 31, 2019 by miles73128 Update 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie Whizz Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 22 hours ago, Denbridge said: I find it ironic that people are up in arms about the teak finish, yet completely ignore the errors in the actual shape of the coaches. Indeed some stating they were Hornbys best coaches. Hornby got the bodies horribly wrong, but seemingly that doesn't matter. It's a long while now since they were first launched, and if you can think back that far, even with their manifest faults they probably were "Hornby's best coaches" back then, certainly compared to the great majority of what had gone before. Also, it takes someone with a degree of knowledge to recognise most of those faults; to >80% of modellers I would guess they either don't know or else they accept that, if they're wrong, at least they're consistently wrong and therefore don't stand out as such in normal 'layout' usage. Whereas, whether the shape is correct or not, if the 'teak' finish plainly stands out as looking more like horrible Formica, then frankly no amount of tumblehome is going to make up for that, for anybody! We can but hope that Hornby eventually get around to re-tooling them. Meanwhile, though, if you want a R-T-R Gresley carriage and don't have the skills or confidence to modify the Hornby products, then I refer you to what the cowboy replied when his wife complained: "Honey, why d'ya keep goin' ter thet thar poker game at the Saloon every Friday when ya knows it's crooked?" ... "But sweetheart - it's the only game in Town!" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County of Yorkshire Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I took a look at both full brakes that my local model shop had in today - neither had the ducket. Looks to be a batch-wide problem, which is a shame as they are such a nice bit of kit otherwise. The older ones will probably go for even more silly money now! CoY 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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