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Seconded.  My main field of interest is the Canton sets that were such a major part of my working life in the mid-70s, but I am delighted that someone of clearly considerable erudition in the matter has taken up the baton from Chris. 

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On 03/04/2023 at 21:44, EddieK said:

I suspect that much of Chris’ source information originated in Railway Observer, and I admit that I have not been a subscriber to said publication.

 

The Railcar website is very comprehensive. But if you were so inclined the RCTS has digitised all the volumes of the RO. Prior to 2012 they can be purchased (as a 1 year volume) in pdf format. (Not sure if you have to be a member to do this.) I also note that they have just published a book on 1st generation DMUs.

 

I think that keeping the thread going is a fitting tribute to Chris, so thank you for doing that. But when it was in its infancy I did suggest that the curated information would merit a more permanent home/archive. I still think that is worth considering - maybe the Railcar website is an appropriate place.

 

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1988

 

Western Region

 

Compared with the quantity of Class 116 vehicles in use on the region at the start of 1987, the fleet was significantly reduced as at January 1988 and it remained relatively stable for the year. A survey on 6th June found the following sets: -

 

(L = London area, C = Cardiff area)

 

L307 53083  53820  2x Brakes, had been in Parcels use but returned to passenger use mid 1988.

 

C360 53080  53122

C362 53086  53128

C365 53089  53131

C375 53855  59561  53908   Metro Cammell Trailer

C377 53858  59539  53911   Metro Cammell Trailer

C390 51128  51141

C391 51132  51145

C392 51134  51147

C393 51135  51148

C394 51139  51152

C395 51140 51153

 

C985 53624  59039  51509 Class 108 / 116 / 101 hybrid, 59039 supposedly allocated to Landore

 

The Class 116 power twins shown above had no toilets, and in theory were for use on the Valley Lines network where Class 150/2 Sprinters provided most of the service, but I have seen evidence of Cardiff - Hereford and even Cardiff - Shrewsbury workings; leg crossing time, methinks…

 

Another snapshot of the fleet at 18th August found C375 and C377 reduced to power twins, and the sole Class 116 centre trailer in a Landore set with Class 108 power cars:

 

S947 53942  59039  51567

 

By the end of 1988, the only casualty was 59039, withdrawn from Landore 3/11/88.

 

 

Eastern Region

 

During 1987, Heaton had gathered together a collection of other depots’ cast off DMU vehicles, including two Class 116 triple sets ex Cardiff to assist in providing a service while the Class 143 Pacer fleet had a reliability. er, blip….

By 1988, it looks as if Class 143 reliability had improved. On 10th March the following Class 116 vehicles moved from Heaton to Chester: -

53847

53856

53900

53909

59364

 

A snapshot of the Heaton allocation in July found supposedly 24 sets designated “Power Twin / Triple” with a selection of mostly Metro Cammell power cars, and a collection of five centre trailers of classes 101, 116, 118, 119. The Class 116 vehicle remaining was 59040. 

By December 1988, the fleet of Class 101 Power Twin sets was reduced to eight while 59040 was listed as “spare”, presumably it made occasional forays by augmenting one of these sets. (59040 was obviously a useful vehicle at Heaton as it remained on the allocation there until mid 1990).

 

 

London Midland Region

 

Bletchley

This depot started the year with a solitary Class 116 trailer, 59367, which had been running in a four car set during 1987. By January 1988, the set had been reduced to three cars:

53628 - 59367 - 51570

 

This vehicle migrated to Tyseley in May 1988 and eventually took up residence within one of the T400 series hybrid four car sets.

 

 

Chester

This depot began the year with eight Class 116 vehicles, and five more vehicles arrived from Heaton in March. By the end of the year, all of these vehicles would be withdrawn.

 

As at February, the units were formed: -

53824  53906  Non Gangwayed set

53904  59054  53910  Class 101 Trailer Brake Van

53081  59120  53123 Class 101 Trailer

53051  53072 Parcels unit, 2x Motor Brakes

 

See above for the five vehicles that moved from Heaton to Chester in March, giving a fleet size of thirteen though this did not last for long and by June there were three power twin units : -

CH297  53081  53904

CH298  53847  53910

CH299  53856  53909

 

Reference to the railcar website has found these sets typically used on the Chester - Hooton shuttles, where their lack of toilets would not be too much of a problem. By October, only CH297 remained, but this was withdrawn at the end of the month. A few Class 116 vehicles would appear in Chester’s allocation for a couple of months in Autumn 1989, but I am getting ahead of myself….

 

 

Newton Heath

The year began with twenty eight Class 116 vehicles allocated. The fleet was bolstered by three ex Cardiff trailer cars being reinstated along with five vehicles transferring across from Tyseley. To counter this, however, the Class 116 fleet was cut back during the year to leave only seven vehicles at the end of December. 

 

A snap shot in February found these Class 116 units: -

 

Non-Gangwayed

53078  53109

53059  53117

53870  53923

 

Gangwayed

53087  59037  53129

53091  59041  53133

53839  59433  53857  Class 119 Trailer Buffet; 2x Brakes

53842  59527  53895  Class 101 Trailer  (Confusingly, the two power cars were seen by me,                                           operating from Tyseley in January 1988….)

53843  53896

53848  53901

53862  59528  53872  Class 101 Trailer

53866  59114  53887  Class 101 Trailer

53867  59372  53920  Plain Blue livery

53869  59035  53922

 

As the year progressed, some Class 116 vehicles were withdrawn (see Withdrawals list, below). A small number of vehicles were transferred here from Tyseley, but a couple of these were withdrawn almost immediately. 

 

By mid July, the Class 116 fleet at the depot comprised two hybrid triples, three power twins and a new concept, gangwayed Class 116 Motor Brakes running with Metro Cammell Driving Trailers….

 

Hybrid Triple

N358 53867  59114  53920  Plain Blue motor coaches, Blue/Grey Class 101 trailer

N361 53839  59433  53922  Class 119 Trailer Buffet

 

Power Twin

N650 53059  53117

N651 53078  53109

N652 53870  53923

 

Hybrid - Cl 101 Driving Trailer

N619 53087  54398

N620 53091  54381

N621 53843  54219

N622 53848  54071

N623 53857  54375

N624 53869  54408

 

By the end of October, the two plain blue Class 116 motor coaches were in Berry’s scrap yard and of the July list, only N619 - 623 sets remained, with a few odd coaches spare.

 

 

A final stock take in December found only seven Class 116 vehicles at the depot: -

 

Hybrid - Cl 101 Driving Trailer

N621 53843  54219

N622 53848  54071

N623 53857  54375

 

Power Twin

N683 53866  53887

N684 53869  53922

 

Getting slightly ahead of myself, Newton Heath would end its relationship with Class 116 three months later, with four vehicles withdrawn but three moving to Cardiff!

 

An oddity in the history of Class 116s at Newton Heath was the transfer of 53887 to Buxton in May, with it returning in October. I have no information as to what it did when it was based there.

 

 

Tyseley

In 1987, you may recall how the previously (relatively) stable Class 116 fleet gained vehicles (mostly from ScotRail), lost vehicles either to the scrap man or to other depots, and became mixed-up as part of the creation of the T400 series hybrid four car sets, with a number of temporary formations thrown in as part of the process.

By February 1988, the shape of the fleet for the next few years was becoming clear. The old faithful “500” series sets (non-gangwayed) that remained were soon to be withdrawn, the “600” series (introduced 1983) gangwayed sets still in existence were to be partly absorbed into the “400” series hybrid four car sets, and three car suburban sets were adopting a new “300” set number series. Confused? Here’s a snapshot dated 5th February. Class 116 vehicles underlined.

 

T200 Power Twin

 

T207 53842  53895 (These vehicles also shown as allocated to Newton Heath…..)

 

 

T300 Suburban Triple (Gangwayed + Lav)

 

T306 51369  59521  53873  Class 117 set, 53873 temporarily in place of 51411

T319 51129  59756  51149

T320 51138  59720  53890

T321 53854  59723  53907

T322 53071  59760  53880

T323 53818  59724  53093

T324 53053  59672  53101

T325 53060  59757  51142

T326 53822  59668  53881

T331 51133  59595  53090  Two brake vans

T332 53865  59598  53073  Two brake vans

T333 53082  59617  51131  Two brake vans

T334 53054  59596  51136  Two brake vans

T335 53844  59674  53827  Two brake vans

T336 53849  59721  51130  Two brake vans

T337 53853  59751  53838  Two brake vans

T338 53050  59722  53058  Two brake vans

T339 53850  59597  53863  Two brake vans

T340 53826  59719  53837  Two brake vans

T341 53061  59753  53079  Two brake vans

T359 53866  59114  53887  Class 101 trailer 

 

 

T500 Suburban Triple (Non Gangwayed)

 

T505 53065  59638  53121

T511 53832  59649  53913

T512 53063  59642  53119

T513 53077  59650  53120

T522 53833  59714  53100

T526 53070  59626  53095

 

 

T600 Suburban Triple (Gangwayed + Lav)

 

T611 53055  59611  53116

T620 53056  59612  53878

 

 

T400 Suburban Quad (Gangwayed + Lav)

 

T401 51662  59743  59610  53886

T402 51851  59658  59614  51146

T403 51852  59641  59616  53106

T404 51853  59604  59445  53919

T405 51854  59726  59615  51143

T406 51856  59606  59344  53132

T407 51858  59594  59442  53916

T408 51859  59448  59592  53114

T409 51860  59600  59375  53894

T410 51862  59602  59713  53124

T412 51867  59446  59591  53102

T413 51868  59632  59593  53902

T414 51869  59661  59613  51144

T415 51870  59589  59353  53921

T416 51876  59609  59648  53891

T417 51877  59603  59444  53893

T419 51884  59629  59590  51151

T420 51892  59032  59607  53092

T422 51898  59608  59335  53897

 

 

T800 Suburban Quad (Non-Gangwayed + Lav)

 

T802 51865  59748  59636  53914

 

 

Stored awaiting material: 53825 (Subsequently withdrawn without re-entering traffic)

Stored Unserviceable at Crewe: 59330

 

 

As an illustration of how things were changing at Tyseley, a month later the above list had the following changes: -

 

Sets disbanded: T611, T620, T802

 

New set: T342   53055  59673  53056 Two brake vans

This new set included the two Motor Brakes previously in T611 and T620

 

New set: T418  51880  59643  59611  53116  (Last two vehicles ex T611)

New set: T421  51897  59741  59612  53878  (Last two vehicles ex T620)

 

53873 had been taken out of T306 set, where it had stood in for the “proper” Motor Second vehicle, and gone on to stand in for 53893 in T417. 53893 was awaiting material.

 

 

By early April, there was only one of the long-serving T500 sets still in traffic, T511 (see above), also the final Suburban Quad had been formed: -

 

T411 51865  59625  59597  53873

 

Note that 53873 was in its “proper” set and 53893 was back in T417. Also, to release 59597 for T411, set T339 was reformed with 59670 as centre car.

 

The Tyseley fleet of Class 116s had, by around mid 1988 reached a fairly steady state, with the last of the non-gangwayed Class 116 triples leaving the depot allocation in May; the power cars went to Newton Heath where they only lasted a short while before withdrawal, and the Class 115 trailer went for scrap.

The remaining triple sets were all gangwayed, with T319 - T326 being “correctly” formed and T331 - T342 being formed with two brake vans.

The hybrid Suburban Quad sets all had Class 116 Motor Seconds at the opposite end to the Class 115 Motor Brakes, and there were odd Class 116 trailers to be found. One Class 116 trailer of note was 59367, which had been the lone Class 116 vehicle at Bletchley; upon arrival at Tyseley it displaced 59375 out of T409 set and on its way to the scrapyard.

When new, the Tyseley Class 116 fleet had been mainly used on local services, as befitting their non-gangwayed, high density seating layout. By 1988, the remaining vehicles not only operated local services in the West Midlands but also longer distance timetabled weekend services to destinations including Skegness, Scarborough and Yarmouth. They also formed Football specials and excursions, which seems a little at odds with their “suburban” design. The overall reduction in Class 116 units at Tyseley had been caused by an influx of Class 117 and 118 units from the “Provincial” (i.e. not London) area of the Western Region, including the celebrity Western Region Chocolate and Cream set B430, which became T305, but that is another story.

 

 

 

Class 116 Withdrawals

 

53051  CH  12/6/88

53052  TS  17/1/88

53059  NH  6/11/88

53063  TS  31/3/88

53065  TS  12/3/88

53070  TS  31/3/88

53072  CH  12/6/88

53077  TS  16/5/88

53078  NH  6/11/88

53081  CH  30/10/88

53087  NH  6/11/88

53091  NH  6/11/88

53095  TS  31/3/88

53100  TS  7/2/88

53108  NH  17/1/88

53109  NH  6/11/88

53112  TS   3/1/88

53117  NH  6/11/88

53119  TS  31/3/88

53120  TS  13/5/88

53121  TS  12/3/88

53123  CH  12/6/88

53129  NH  19/6/88

53133  NH  2/6/88

53819  NH  17/1/88

53824  CH  12/6/88

53825  TS  19/6/88

53832  NH  17/7/88  See Transfers

53833  TS  7/2/88

53839  NH  18/9/88

53842  NH  17/7/88

53847  CH  6/11/88  See Transfers

53856  CH  2/10/88  See Transfers

53862  NH  30/10/88

53867  NH  30/10/88  Plain Blue livery

53870  NH  6/11/88

53871  TS  17/1/88

53872  NH  19/6/88

53895  NH  30/10/88 See Transfers

53896  NH  2/6/88

53900  CH  12/6/88  See Transfers

53901  NH  2/6/88

53904  CH  30/10/88

53906  CH 12/6/88

53909  CH  2/10/88  See Transfers

53910  CH  6/11/88

53913  NH  2/6/88  See Transfers

53914  TS  27/3/88

53920  NH  30/10/88 Plain Blue livery

53923  NH  6/11/88

59035  Reinstated NH  17/1/88

59035  NH  2/6/88

59037  Reinstated NH  17/1/88

59037  NH  2/6/88

59039  LE  3/11/88

59041  Reinstated NH  17/1/88

59041  NH  2/6/88

59345  TS  17/1/88

59364  CH  21/3/88  See Transfers

59372  NH  2/6/88  Plain Blue livery

59374  TS  17/1/88

59375  TS  19/6/88

 

 

Class 116 Transfers

 

53083  OO  Parcels to Passenger use  7/88

53820  OO  Parcels to Passenger use  7/88

53832  TS  -  NH  11/5/88  See Withdrawals

53847  HT  -  CH  10/3/88  See Withdrawals

53856  HT  -  CH  10/3/88  See Withdrawals

53866  TS  -  NH  2/10/88

53887  TS  -  NH  11/5/88

53887  NH  -  BX  17/5/88

53887  BX  -  NH  2/10/88

53895  TS  -  NH  10/7/88  See Withdrawals

53900  HT  -  CH  10/3/88  See Withdrawals

53909  HT  -  CH  10/3/88  See Withdrawals

53913  TS  -  NH  11/5/88  See Withdrawals

59364  HT  -  CH  10/3/88  See Withdrawals

59367  BY  -  TS  10/5/88

 

 

 

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Thanks for posting! Useful info.

 

I've thought modelling 53867/59372/53920 seeing as think they're about the last BR Blue examples on the network. One thing I wasn't sure about is if they had gangways fitted or not near their end. I see you've marked them as having gangways so thanks for that info.

 

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Really glad @EddieK has carried on with this. Especially liked the info on Tyseley sets in mid 1980s as I well remember travelling on the Cross City line then. There seemed to be very varied sets, including using 121 or 122 bubble cars in place of motor cars and the ex Cardiff sets with valley line logos and maps inside. Interesting seeing actual set formations including some sets formed with 2 DMBS - just like the Lima models 😉

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On 27/02/2023 at 13:07, Halvarras said:

I assume you are referring to the RailAir Express Parcels W51137/50, as converted at Newton Abbot in 1969 - according to the 1969 Ian Allan Combined Volume they were not gangwayed

 

RailCar says:

 

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To operate the service the two power cars and two GUVs were converted at Newton Abbot. The GUVs were wired for DMU operation and had strengthened floors to accommodate consignments on pallets or in BRUTE trolleys. The power cars had their seats removed, and could take larger packages not suitable for bulking in BRUTES or for palletisation.

 

Does "seats removed" mean the same as "not gangwayed"?

 

https://www.railcar.co.uk/type/class-116/railair-express-parcels

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Here's a Class 118 I used to be on, to go to school and back. In winter time, with a high tide and an offshore wind, waves would break over the roof of the Down platform (on the right) and land on the Up platform (on the left). As school children, we thought it was all hilarious, with us cheering-on the station staff. As they peered through a crack in the office door, waiting for the right moment for a run along the Up platform in between the waves.

 

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Copyright (C) RailCar and David Mant.

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45 minutes ago, KeithMacdonald said:

 

RailCar says:

 

 

Does "seats removed" mean the same as "not gangwayed"?

 

https://www.railcar.co.uk/type/class-116/railair-express-parcels


The 116s were non-gangwayed when built. Since the references say only seats removed, it must be assumed that they remained non-gangwayed, or one assumes it would have said so.

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3 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said:

 

The Southern region being an early advocate of equality and diversity?

 

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Not so much a red blind as 'red and stop that or you'll go blind' (ok, I'll just do it til I'm short-sighted, then).

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5 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said:

 

RailCar says:

 

 

Does "seats removed" mean the same as "not gangwayed"?

 

https://www.railcar.co.uk/type/class-116/railair-express-parcels

 

Had the vehicles concerned (W51137/50 initially, followed by W50819/62/72/915) had gangways fitted they would have been retained in passenger service - in parcels service the gangways would have been redundant as the two GUVS (W86174/572) were never so equipped - here's W86174 back in normal (loco-hauled) parcels service at Bristol Temple Meads c. October 1984 shortly after becoming TOPS-compliant W93174 - I wasn't in the habit of photographing GUVs but, having often seen the '128+GUV+116' combos at Reading in the 1970s, recognized the number and significance of this one (is that the former MU bracket below the buffer?):

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I had hankered after doing one of those Reading sets as they were an interesting mix of vehicles, although not really relevant to my favoured modelling location so I resisted........until one day Hattons offered a mint pre-owned Heljan Class 128 in the correct livery/configuration for an inexplicable £46 "with loose detailing" (didn't they all come like that anyway?!) and my resistance crumbled.....so still in my long paint queue is this Lima Class 117-to-116 DMBS conversion clearly with no seats - oval buffers identify it as W50862 - and 'wired' Lima GUV on Bachmann B1 bogies, which will be W86174 (the body is on the lean as it's not clipped to the chassis pending a repaint - these things are difficult to take apart without damage, I broke off one of the lower corner stanchions so I only wanted to do it once!) I was lucky enough to order a '128' parts sprue from Howes not long before they stopped being the UK Heljan agents which included both bufferbeams and all four bogie sideframes, so these - glued to a pair of old MTK plastic coach bogie stretchers - were used to upgrade the Lima underframe, together with Hornby 12.6mm disc wheels and Lima Class 101 bogie steps:

Class116ParcelsandwiredGUV.jpg.87469c2894680b79e55ce3229e38a68d.jpg

 

Hopefully this summer I'll figure out where I can permanently set up my airbrush gear without having to pack it all away every time, as I have had to in the past, so I can begin chewing through that paint queue at last.........

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8 hours ago, Ramblin Rich said:

Really glad @EddieK has carried on with this. Especially liked the info on Tyseley sets in mid 1980s as I well remember travelling on the Cross City line then. There seemed to be very varied sets, including using 121 or 122 bubble cars in place of motor cars and the ex Cardiff sets with valley line logos and maps inside. Interesting seeing actual set formations including some sets formed with 2 DMBS - just like the Lima models 😉

As I recall, the use of a bubble car vehicle in place of a power car in a suburban triple was common practice both at Reading and Tyseley.

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3 hours ago, EddieK said:

As I recall, the use of a bubble car vehicle in place of a power car in a suburban triple was common practice both at Reading and Tyseley.

I recall glimpsing a data panel on a vab front that had been embellished with "Class 121i  Ghia" (in the days when the lads wanted an XR3i)

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Tyseley set T322 (M53071/M59760/M53880) at Sutton Coldfield with a cross-city service to Longbridge via Birmingham New Street on 23/12/87.  This is a gangwayed Class 116 set with a Class 115 TS(L) in the middle.

 

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Class 116 DMBS M53071 at Sutton Coldfield on 23/12/87 (my photo)

 

 

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Class 115 TS(L) M59760 at Sutton Coldfield on 23/12/87 (my photo)

 

 

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Class 116 DMS M53880 at Sutton Coldfield on 23/12/87 (my photo)

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On 22/04/2023 at 20:01, Halvarras said:

 

Had the vehicles concerned (W51137/50 initially, followed by W50819/62/72/915) had gangways fitted they would have been retained in passenger service - in parcels service the gangways would have been redundant as the two GUVS (W86174/572) were never so equipped - here's W86174 back in normal (loco-hauled) parcels service at Bristol Temple Meads c. October 1984 shortly after becoming TOPS-compliant W93174 - I wasn't in the habit of photographing GUVs but, having often seen the '128+GUV+116' combos at Reading in the 1970s, recognized the number and significance of this one (is that the former MU bracket below the buffer?):

GUVW93174BTM10-84.jpg.a51ab7eb9cb3852afe0abc25b625b488.jpg

 

I had hankered after doing one of those Reading sets as they were an interesting mix of vehicles, although not really relevant to my favoured modelling location so I resisted........until one day Hattons offered a mint pre-owned Heljan Class 128 in the correct livery/configuration for an inexplicable £46 "with loose detailing" (didn't they all come like that anyway?!) and my resistance crumbled.....so still in my long paint queue is this Lima Class 117-to-116 DMBS conversion clearly with no seats - oval buffers identify it as W50862 - and 'wired' Lima GUV on Bachmann B1 bogies, which will be W86174 (the body is on the lean as it's not clipped to the chassis pending a repaint - these things are difficult to take apart without damage, I broke off one of the lower corner stanchions so I only wanted to do it once!) I was lucky enough to order a '128' parts sprue from Howes not long before they stopped being the UK Heljan agents which included both bufferbeams and all four bogie sideframes, so these - glued to a pair of old MTK plastic coach bogie stretchers - were used to upgrade the Lima underframe, together with Hornby 12.6mm disc wheels and Lima Class 101 bogie steps:

Class116ParcelsandwiredGUV.jpg.87469c2894680b79e55ce3229e38a68d.jpg

 

Hopefully this summer I'll figure out where I can permanently set up my airbrush gear without having to pack it all away every time, as I have had to in the past, so I can begin chewing through that paint queue at last.........

By way of clarification, 51137/51150 were withdrawn and scrapped from WR parcels service in the early 1970s - they’d spent a brief period on the ScR also.

 

The others (50819/62/72/915) were all returned to passenger service in 1977 at Tyseley - seemingly without gangways - 50862/72 were in one of the first Tyseley sets given gangways to operate with redundant ex ER class 101 trailers in the early 80s.

 

All info from Railcar.co.uk.

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Many thanks for picking this up, it's a fantastic resource and positive legacy for Chris.  The gen on Tyseley's pick and mix formations is a Godsend.  My experience of Tyseley's Random Unit Generator XL on the Cross City was more from 1990 onwards when I got a job at Centro in Birmingham, but the real anarchy started in 1993 when the go-slightly-faster triple power car lash-ups were slotted in between geriatric Class 304 and the West Yorkshire liveried 308s, plus a few 310s, to try and keep some sort of service going whilst the 323s went on strike.  I remember one peak hour service to Four Oaks turning up at BNS as the two car class 119, which already had fewer seats and a larger guard's van reducing the capacity to cope with a huge crowd on the platform.  Suffice it to say it was already behind time, the guard could barely open the door there were so many wedged in the van, so I gave it a swerve.  I bet that was fun on the slog out of Gravelly Hill.

 

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I do remember travelling around Cardiff with one of the last 116 power twins.

 

The Barry 3 car was driven properly with gaps in gear changing for making it last better.

The 2 car power twin was being power shifted, no  letting off throttle, just change gear.

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On 23/04/2023 at 09:30, franciswilliamwebb said:

 

 

 

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Class 115 TS(L) M59760 at Sutton Coldfield on 23/12/87 (my photo)

 

 

59760 betrays its origins as a TCL as the far end saloon (5 bays) still has the headrest sides from being First Class. 

As an aside, the new-to Allerton Class 115 vehicles had similar side sections on the second class headrests. 

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