Article 15 Of The Offensive Weapons Bill

[Night Train]

Apologies if this seems a bit political, but the ramifications of this bill will likely adversely affect every modeler in the country.

 

Briefly, the government mistakenly thinks it can reduce knife crime by making it illegal to deliver "bladed articles" to a residential address. So far there have been no exemptions mentioned. This is likely to mean no more deliveries of craft knives, scalpels, chisels, scissors and possibly side cutters.

 

If you are a self employed tradesman, tough luck if you need a Stanley knife or a spare blade for your woodworking plane. The government in their wisdom has said NO! If you use single edge razor blades, or a cut throat, then you are equally stuffed.

 

Incidentally, this is the same legislation that bans knives in further education establishments. Tough luck if you are a budding artist or a trainee chef. Maybe you will learn how to beat vegetables into submission with a wooden spoon.

 

There is a petition to repeal this part of the act.

If you use modelling tools and value your hobby, please sign here.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/222776

Edited July 7, 2018 by Night Train

[Fat Controller]

Another carefully thought-out bit of legislation from an establishment full of experienced lawyers. From experience, blades can be made from things like old hacksaw blades, pieces of ceramics and probably many other things. There are even pointed sticks..

'Carrying a bladed weapon' is already covered by legislation; why is more needed?

[Mark Saunders]

Trying to read the documentation.

 

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8349

 

It is tough reading and has references to voluntary agreements and then leaves you even more confused than when you started!

 

Mark Saunders

[Tony Davis]

I signed it.

[royaloak]

Another carefully thought-out bit of legislation from an establishment full of experienced lawyers. From experience, blades can be made from things like old hacksaw blades, pieces of ceramics and probably many other things. There are even pointed sticks..

'Carrying a bladed weapon' is already covered by legislation; why is more needed?

Because none of the current laws/legislation are enforced by the Police/ Courts.

 

Petition signed!

[Sidecar Racer]

From experience, blades can be made from things like old hacksaw blades, pieces of ceramics and probably many other things.

 

Ice even .

 

https://www.wimp.com/kitchen-knife-made-out-of-ice/

[sir douglas]

signed

[MarkC]

Signed

[Captain Kernow]

Also signed.

[4630]

Signed.

[sp1]

Signed

[K14]

Signed

[Andy Hayter]

signed - as an avid user of the Swann Morten Post Mortem knife and blades, I could see these as high on a list of banned items.

[BoD]

Better off writing to your MP or meeting with them directly to discuss this.

[Andy Hayter]

I don't have an MP since being stuck off the electoral register for using my freedom of movement within the EU.  Now that is becomng dangerously political.

Edited July 7, 2018 by Andy Hayter

[robert17649]

signedbut s ever this is a bit of dogoody legislative nonsense which may owe its origins to Mr Richard Soles and friends.

[Titan]

I don't have an MP since being stuck off the electoral register for using my freedom of movement within the EU.  Now that is becomng dangerously political.

 

How will this knife legislation affect you?

[Andy Hayter]

UK suppliers will not be able to mail me replacement blades.  Currently I have only found UK suppliers.

[soony]

Looks like giving up shaving as well, If I can't carry razor blades home, and six months in jail for carrying them on a camping holiday. And how are the female of the species expected to manage  without nail scissors. Walking  thru  a multinational market , its surprising how many machettes are used on international veggies stands , which are then left on open display , and access to the ANY punter....

[JeremyC]

Given the act contains this statement, then it would appear an amendment would be more a more suitable route than repeal.

4) It is a defence for a person charged with an offence under section 15 to prove

that they reasonably believed that the buyer bought the bladed product for use

for relevant sporting purposes or for the purposes of historical re-enactment.

[Thunderforge]

Does it specify blades over a certain length?

Mentioning sport (fencing?) and re-enacting maybe it’s to reduce the number of “collectors katanas” which can be bought without license being shipped in?

Also I notice in the above post that the risk is put on the supplier not the customer, which would be policable if it’s a U.K. or EU company but how do they prosecute a Chinese eBay merchant?

[Thunderforge]

I wonder how many blade crimes are committed by the individual who ordered the blade?

[jjb1970]

The point is to show that politicians and the law and order establishment are "doing something". Gesture politics to head off the awkward questions about why the existing laws aren't being properly applied, criminals not being apprehended etc.

[JeremyC]

There is also a section in this act covering corrosive chemicals. Could this have any effect on modellers? Substances that come to mind are flux ( phosphoric acid), and two part etching primers, the thinner of which contains an acid.

First thought is possibly not, but there is often little common sense in the application of these acts.

Edited July 8, 2018 by JeremyC

[RedGemAlchemist]

Signed, as I am not only a modeller but ALSO a self employed tradesman.