RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted April 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 25, 2019 My reading of Southern Wagons Vol. 3, caption to plate 104, is that the five wagons that survived in traffic with BR did so because they had been allocated since 1933 to a specific traffic - paper between Aylesford and Blackfriars - but that could be a misinterpretation on my part: the literal sense of the text is that the one wagon in the photo was allocated to this traffic in 1933. It could have been put back into general service and the other four survivors might never have been so allocated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 12 hours ago, Oliver Rails said: Many thanks to everyone who has ordered and shown interest in the model. Whilst we wait for some decorated samples, I thought I'd share an image of the CAD design which shows the level of detail the van has. *snip* Oliver, will the final version have sprung buffers? I have two on pre-order regardless! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Miss Prism said: The roof needs to be a smidge longer and a smidge wider. I'm also not sure where the upper edge of the headstock is. 17 hours ago, Compound2632 said: Leafing through Southern Wagons Vol. 3, I'd say a smidgeon in each dimension. It seems to be characteristic of the construction of these vehicles that the upper face of the headstock is at floor height, per the CAD model, though the reference photo for the BR-lettered Southern brown livery (plate 104) is an exception, with the end floor board visible - presumably the headstock had been renewed. (1) re the roof; it looks OK to me on the CAD, but I see your point about the roof as seen in the photograph. (2) I was about to post something similar to Compound; I think everything he said in his post is exactly right. All I can add is some pictures that illustrate the point and that show the CAD correctly reflects the construction of the wagons. I don't have a GA, but here is the end view from a livery drawing: Compare it to this nice end view 1936 photograph of the earlier SER D1422, to an essentially similar design: Finally, here is a picture of another D1424 (same as the model), if you look to the left of the left-hand stanchion, you can see enough to confirm the height of the headstock. In fact, this seems to be an entirely standard form of construction. Edited April 26, 2019 by Edwardian 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted April 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 26, 2019 Does this wagon have NEM coupler boxes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, D9020 Nimbus said: Does this wagon have NEM coupler boxes? The sample I fingered did have these. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted April 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Edwardian said: In fact, this seems to be an entirely standard form of construction. I think it goes back to the earlier designs with the four uprights forming the end framing, flush with the headstock, and the boarding inset (giving a shorter internal length relative to the length over headstock than the later form of construction) - and indeed in common with the construction of similar externally-framed 19th century covered goods wagon designs on, for example, the Midland and LNWR. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 hours ago, D9020 Nimbus said: Does this wagon have NEM coupler boxes? 2 hours ago, 'CHARD said: The sample I fingered did have these. I believe the painted samples on the Rails stand had couplings fitted. The other sample that I saw did not. I had the presence of mind to photograph the underside. It has standard Dapol mounts integral to the base. The Dapol version of the NEM coupling arrangement screws into a hole in the mounting and this gives it the necessary lateral play - an essential, if sometimes overlooked, factor. 2 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted April 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 27, 2019 Very few British wagons have the "swinging link" arrangement common on European stock, which makes it impossible to fit some types of coupling. However tension-locks and Kadees—which aren't sufficiently rigid to work well with the swinging link arrangement—are the types most likely to be used in the U.K. Pesonally, I find the Dapol arrangement works well, better than the almost rigid style favoured by Bachmann and Hornby, especially on longer wagons. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Installation of three-links shouldn't be too tricky. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr chapman Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 On 25/04/2019 at 16:46, CarriageShed said: Thank goodness you're not producing a shrink-rayed version for us underprivileged N gauge modellers of the Southern, otherwise I'd have to buy at least two or three... And me 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 01/05/2019 at 21:13, Mr chapman said: And me Never say never... I'm a OO modeller and this wagon is one I never thought would see an appearance as an RTR wagon. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big James Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just pre-ordered the 2 BR grey version. I was going to pre-order the BR versions inn SR brown but I would like to know how long they lasted in this livery? big James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rue_d_etropal Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I would be interesting to know more about how and who is actually manufacturing the model. There is no mention of Dapol in the RM news page, and I would not be surprised to see prices going up in the future. Quite often when new technology comes along, costs are guessed at but later have to be adjusted to be sustainable. The world of 3D printing is developing so fast that there is no chance for it to settling down to allow prices to even out . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 4 hours ago, rue_d_etropal said: I would be interesting to know more about how and who is actually manufacturing the model. It took me about 5 seconds to guess who the manufacturer was (from clues early in the thread), and I did offer my guess in a post. The post was removed within minutes, which confirmed my guess was spot-on. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 8 hours ago, rue_d_etropal said: I would be interesting to know more about how and who is actually manufacturing the model. There is no mention of Dapol in the RM news page, Dapol is mentioned in the very first post in this topic: Quote Rails of Sheffield in partnership with Dapol have announced that they will produce an OO gauge model of the BR (ex-SE&CR) Diagram 1424 Box Van Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) I think they are implying that Dapol are having them 3D printed by a third party as I don't think that Dapol do 3D printed models themselves. It's not like it's been printed on one of those printers that you can build if you collect 120 fortnightly magazines. Jason Edited May 12, 2019 by Steamport Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 19 hours ago, rue_d_etropal said: I would be interesting to know more about how and who is actually manufacturing the model. There is no mention of Dapol in the RM news page, and I would not be surprised to see prices going up in the future. Quite often when new technology comes along, costs are guessed at but later have to be adjusted to be sustainable. The world of 3D printing is developing so fast that there is no chance for it to settling down to allow prices to even out . Maybe the Coopercraft saga with the moulding machine not working properly is now over? Has he got an even better machine? Stewart 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) Asked Rails today how things were going with this wagon and had a reply Quote Hi Gareth. Things are moving along nicely. We should hopefully have updated images shortly and further updates on delivery to follow. Cheers Rails Edited June 1, 2019 by Garethp8873 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Meant to be in stock in June. That doesn't now sound the case. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 ........ what year ? ............................................................... crossing fingers that it'll be 2019 - even if June's missed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Rails Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 UPDATE Final checks have been made and production is due to begin early next week. If all goes as expected then we expect the vans to be completed and ready to despatch late June / early July 2019! Low numbers remain to pre-order. We have less than 20 pieces (total) left to sell. The order book will close very soon. 4 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) Any update pics so we can see what we're getting @Oliver Rails Edited June 3, 2019 by woodenhead 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Sounds like they could be OUT of stock in June ( 2019 ) then ......... Cheers, Rails - what's next ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarriageShed Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I'm really hoping these sell well as I'm looking forward to the N gauge batch in time for next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Rails Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, woodenhead said: Any update pics so we can see what we're getting @Oliver Rails Hi, As soon as I get a fully decorated sample, I will share it on here. Thanks Oliver 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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