RMweb Gold 4630 Posted December 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) And here you go, courtesy of an image on Twitter, the full set ready to go. https://twitter.com/125_RailwayInfo/status/1206901611139911680?s=20 Edited December 17, 2019 by 4630 to edit link to photo 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2019 Has anyone any idea what's happening to this set after the charter? I thought it was going to LSL but apparently not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 15 hours ago, 47513 said: Just mocking the ignorance of the quoted comment. So I am ignorant am I? The mileage this railtour(s) is are doing could easily be done in a day hence my post, or are you saying I am wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 37 minutes ago, russ p said: Has anyone any idea what's happening to this set after the charter? I thought it was going to LSL but apparently not People who think they know what they are talking about have all stated their opinion that it is going to LSL although there hasnt been anything from LSL themselves. I suppose they are quite happy for the know all/know nothing but have an opinion* to post to their hearts content. * delete as applicable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2019 Spoke to mate at LSL and he says not . I thought LSL were having a full first class set Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 hours ago, royaloak said: People who think they know what they are talking about have all stated their opinion that it is going to LSL although there hasnt been anything from LSL themselves. I suppose they are quite happy for the know all/know nothing but have an opinion* to post to their hearts content. * delete as applicable. 2 hours ago, russ p said: Spoke to mate at LSL and he says not . I thought LSL were having a full first class set That's the issue. There has been a lot of rumour and conjecture stating that it is going to LSL afterwards. But, there's a number of already known facts that rule this out. LSL were in talks with Porterbrook for a set, this is an Angel leased set with Angel Power Cars. Also, LSLs plans so far largely consist of Trailer Firsts and Restaurant Buffets as apposed to a rake mostly formed of Trailer Standards, aimed more at the luxury dining market than day to day rail tours. It'll all be clearer no doubt over the coming few weeks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted December 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2019 I’d say that this set has a future because doing the full repaint and exam doesn’t come cheap. If it was just a one off effort, I’m sure LNER would have just wrapped the power cars in vinyls and left the trailers as is. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, jools1959 said: I’d say that this set has a future because doing the full repaint and exam doesn’t come cheap. If it was just a one off effort, I’m sure LNER would have just wrapped the power cars in vinyls and left the trailers as is. Citation needed, there are many examples of freshly painted coaches going off lease (at least 3 buffets arrived back at Laira after having body overhauls and repaints but went straight into store, never being used in service), several Porterbrook power cars had F or G exams and went straight into store afterwards, the only 'service' they did was a post overhaul test run. Tgen there is the fact the repaint can be set aside against the tax return so effectively cost nothing. Edited December 17, 2019 by royaloak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigP Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) -- Edited February 1, 2021 by bigP Deleted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted December 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, bigP said: Hmm, that’s an interesting set-up there... 2+7 formation, 253003 set number and W43006 on the cab side. Maybe we shall be seeing her back home on the Western then? Paul Yes, there’s some comment about that on Twitter too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 nothing for years and then suddenly 3 different units are all going at the same time, pacers then 91 and now HST Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted December 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, royaloak said: Citation needed, there are many examples of freshly painted coaches going off lease (at least 3 buffets arrived back at Laira after having body overhauls and repaints but went straight into store, never being used in service), several Porterbrook power cars had F or G exams and went straight into store afterwards, the only 'service' they did was a post overhaul test run. Tgen there is the fact the repaint can be set aside against the tax return so effectively cost nothing. It was just an opinion and not gospel but remember that all TOC’s have to return their vehicles in working order unless they get permission to return them “as is”. Because of this, loose buffet and power cars being overhauled and then put into store isn’t much of a surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, sir douglas said: nothing for years and then suddenly 3 different units are all going at the same time, pacers then 91 and now HST Plus 313 (GN at least), 314! The Nim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted December 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Nimbus said: Plus 313 (GN at least), 314! The Nim. And 315 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 41 minutes ago, jools1959 said: It was just an opinion and not gospel but remember that all TOC’s have to return their vehicles in working order unless they get permission to return them “as is”. Because of this, loose buffet and power cars being overhauled and then put into store isn’t much of a surprise. But every 'set' is just 2 power cars and 7, 8 or 9 loose coaches isnt it. Lets suppose that LSL ARE taking some of this set on, they could take both power cars, both 1ST Class coaches, one or two of the Standards and the Buffet plus a few more 1ST class coaches and another Buffet to make up their rake, they would then only need to pay for the extra coaches to be painted. I am not saying that is the case but it is one of many possibilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted December 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) A little promo video on Twitter from LNER about the repainting of the power cars at Craigentinny for the farewell tour. https://twitter.com/LNER/status/1207004694834487296?s=20 and the set arriving in Edinburgh today for Day 1. https://twitter.com/LNER/status/1207230469793816576?s=20 Edited December 18, 2019 by 4630 to add link to second video. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted December 18, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2019 19 hours ago, bigP said: Hmm, that’s an interesting set-up there... 2+7 formation, 253003 set number and W43006 on the cab side. Maybe we shall be seeing her back home on the Western then? Paul She's 254 something at the back , but I agree looks like a Western tour may be possible at some stage . She looks good , but having seen them introduced 40 years ago , I now feel old 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted December 19, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2019 I was at Peterborough railway station today, talking to a LNER driver and he told me that the “word on the street” that the set is heading towards East Midlands Railway. I’m not so sure but I’d like to think that set will be around for awhile yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted December 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2019 As far as I know, some LNER HSTs are going to the MML as they are closer to complying with the DDA regs than the MML’s own HSTs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted December 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 hours ago, jools1959 said: I was at Peterborough railway station today, talking to a LNER driver and he told me that the “word on the street” that the set is heading towards East Midlands Railway. I’m not so sure but I’d like to think that set will be around for awhile yet. They will HAVE to do something to the doors if thats true - contrasting coloured doors is MANDATORY for all National Rail passenger operations courtesy of the DDA legislation. So you have to ask why paint it in a non compliment scheme (rather than a modified one like the Southern 313 unit) if the set is intended for re-use on the MML Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimble Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 looks nicer... and surely repainting doors isn't that hard to do...?? And that assuming that the livery won't be wholly replaced as it is... either way, I'm looking forward to getting soaked tomo as I'm heading up to Yorkshire to see her in real life! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted December 19, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, phil-b259 said: They will HAVE to do something to the doors if thats true - contrasting coloured doors is MANDATORY for all National Rail passenger operations courtesy of the DDA legislation. So you have to ask why paint it in a non compliment scheme (rather than a modified one like the Southern 313 unit) if the set is intended for re-use on the MML I didn’t ask the logic behind what he said and there are loads of rumours flying about, that’s why I said I wasn’t so sure. I’d like to think that whoever gets it next will “make hay while the sun shines” and put it into good use, rather it goes into storage. If it does go to EMR, they could just vinyl wrap the doors a contrasting colour and not spoil the paint work underneath. Edited December 19, 2019 by jools1959 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I'm a bit surprised no pics have appeared yet of the train running - we've had two days of it so far! I hope to get some on Tyneside tomorrow but I think the weather might be against me! Cheers Trevor 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 10 hours ago, Trev52A said: I'm a bit surprised no pics have appeared yet of the train running - we've had two days of it so far! I hope to get some on Tyneside tomorrow but I think the weather might be against me! Cheers Trevor Plenty on Flickr and videos on YouTube. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Just been sent some pics from my dad who was in York this aft, looks superb. Jealous as im stuck in my office and not sure if i can make it to Leeds tomorrow... Lots of great pics out on the web already, seen a vid of it coming south through the snow in Scotland, lovely! Cheers James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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