Wolf27 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, pwr said: Another example of poor quality control! I have to say its not unique to Hornby. Dapol and Heljan both have their problems Paul R What is your understand of quality control? Do you think they test every single item? The wire may have come adrift while it was being packed. We simply don’t know. It sounds like a one off as there isn’t hoards of people reporting the same issue. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 53 minutes ago, pwr said: Another example of poor quality control! I have to say its not unique to Hornby. Dapol and Heljan both have their problems Paul R 18 minutes ago, Wolf27 said: What is your understand of quality control? Do you think they test every single item? The wire may have come adrift while it was being packed. We simply don’t know. It sounds like a one off as there isn’t hoards of people reporting the same issue. I find solder breakages to be much more common in modern RTR because of the plethora of fine (i.e. fiddly and small) wiring (long gone the days of a single tag lead or wire in Lima or Hornby models!). In recent years I have had to sort out a Bachmann 150, a Realtrack 143, Hornby VEP and 56. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2022 25 minutes ago, Wolf27 said: What is your understand of quality control? Do you think they test every single item? The wire may have come adrift while it was being packed. We simply don’t know. It sounds like a one off as there isn’t hoards of people reporting the same issue. That’s not so much a lack of quality control it’s a lack of development testing if a part that is going to go through occasional/constant movement fails due to a lack of a secure fixing, be it soldering, snap fit or fastened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2022 36 minutes ago, Wolf27 said: I had it less than two hours then devalued it. I noticed on the parts sheet the nose was a separate moulding, and wondered about using a Kadee behind the nose for a bit of recovery work, as you have dismantled it how are the front/rear lamps connected to the main loom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, boxbrownie said: I noticed on the parts sheet the nose was a separate moulding, and wondered about using a Kadee behind the nose for a bit of recovery work, as you have dismantled it how are the front/rear lamps connected to the main loom? This may help. The lighting panel will need some electrical modifications to allow the nose to come off 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, andyman7 said: I find solder breakages to be much more common in modern RTR because of the plethora of fine (i.e. fiddly and small) wiring (long gone the days of a single tag lead or wire in Lima or Hornby models!). In recent years I have had to sort out a Bachmann 150, a Realtrack 143, Hornby VEP and 56. Compounded by the requirement for lead free solder. I find that such solders from the far east are not as good as versions sourced in the EU (RS Components etc) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRail Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Had a problem with my 7 car APT I thought it was the motor which had burnt out but just got the vehicle back from Hornby and it was actually the capacitor. Extremely fast repair and turn around with postage to be refunded. brought direct from Hornby who honored the pre-order price well done Hornby all round 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 2, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Wolf27 said: This may help. The lighting panel will need some electrical modifications to allow the nose to come off It strikes me that with a magnet or two inside the shell at the outer edges in each of the three places would allow the nose to be posed open or closed and a blanking plate, 3D print anyone?, with the buffers on could also pop in on the same magnets. If you could make it clip around the boss would be useful for hauling a set by a wire loop coupling too Pic copyright Wolf27 as quote above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 43 minutes ago, PaulRhB said: It strikes me that with a magnet or two inside the shell at the outer edges in each of the three places would allow the nose to be posed open or closed and a blanking plate, 3D print anyone?, with the buffers on could also pop in on the same magnets. If you could make it clip around the boss would be useful for hauling a set by a wire loop coupling too Pic copyright Wolf27 as quote above. That’s sort of the plan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 2, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2022 If you modify the circuit board with wipers to connect it hidden by a dummy coupling plate in the raised position you could do away with the wires. Sprung wipers where the n’s are and new contact pads where the o’s are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Or something clever with the buffers maybe? Pull the buffers out to reveal sockets? Guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 42 minutes ago, PaulRhB said: If you modify the circuit board with wipers to connect it hidden by a dummy coupling plate in the raised position you could do away with the wires. Sprung wipers where the n’s are and new contact pads where the o’s are? That is also part of the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e30ftw Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 looks suspiciously like they might have thought about a removable nose end in early development of the model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) Things didn’t end so well tonight. Edited February 2, 2022 by Wolf27 Duplicate photo 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leavesontheline Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Wolf27 said: Things didn’t end so well tonight. Gutted for you. Looks like (big) bird strike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonM Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 With apologies for the construction site that is my house (!), here is a video I've taken of my APT power car on my boy's work-in-progress DC layout. Anyone experienced anything like this degree of slowing on corners? If so, is there an obvious fix? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigeddie Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 32 minutes ago, MoonM said: With apologies for the construction site that is my house (!), here is a video I've taken of my APT power car on my boy's work-in-progress DC layout. Anyone experienced anything like this degree of slowing on corners? If so, is there an obvious fix? Thank you! Not had this problem myself but 1 ) is it run in yet? 2) does it happen both directions and with the car placed both ways round? 3) 2nd or 3rd rad curves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigeddie Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 43 minutes ago, Wolf27 said: Things didn’t end so well tonight. Omg gutting, damage report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonM Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bigeddie said: Not had this problem myself but 1 ) is it run in yet? 2) does it happen both directions and with the car placed both ways round? 3) 2nd or 3rd rad curves? Been fully run in on a rolling road. Occurs in both directions and appears to get a little slower each lap. It's on Hornby r609 (3rd radius). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) For some reason this topic has stopped showing in VNC for me. Any suggestions @AY Mod? Have I managed to click something? Edit: And now I've added a new comment it's showing again... out of bananas error, Redo from Start Andi Edited February 2, 2022 by Dagworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 38 minutes ago, Bigeddie said: Omg gutting, damage report? No damage. Which is quite surprising, pans and couplings all good. Back up and running 15 minutes later. It was a dog strike. Caused by trespassing. And the dog doesn’t has PTS 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Dagworth said: For some reason this topic has stopped showing in VNC for me. Any suggestions @AY Mod? Have I managed to click something? Andi That’s because there is nothing see, move along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2022 Just now, Wolf27 said: No damage. Which is quite surprising, pans and couplings all good. Back up and running 15 minutes later. It was a dog strike. Caused by trespassing. And the dog doesn’t has PTS Glad no damage, I'd be looking at putting some kind of derailment guards around the track if I were you. I had to add derailment barriers around Dagworth after a Mainline 56 went straight on at one end! Andi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 29 minutes ago, Dagworth said: Glad no damage, I'd be looking at putting some kind of derailment guards around the track if I were you. I had to add derailment barriers around Dagworth after a Mainline 56 went straight on at one end! Andi I may do, it’s only happened once before in this spot and I think that was dog related as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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