darrel Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Recently visited the Scottish submarine centre in Helensburgh. They have an X51 submarine HMS stickleback. It was built at Barrow in Furness in 1951 and was transported to Faslane on the clyde by train. I've found this photo not sure if it's the same boat or not. But could anyone identify the type of wagon? Additionally if anyone has any other photos or more information on the working of the train I would be very interested. I'm thinking it would make for a very unusual model. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Some of the original X craft were built and tested in Huddersfield. The design was produced in Barrow but the shipyard didn't have the capacity to build them. Unfortunately due to the special ops use they would not have been photographed. Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 hours ago, darrel said: But could anyone identify the type of wagon? 4 Sub? MIke. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Lionel has been in the submarine transport business for years! Everybody laughed at that! Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefromacrossthepond Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Brian, Ah, the Lionel submarine car. When I was way way younger, that was my favorite. Thanks for reminding me! Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 The wagon appears to be continental - the bogie and type of roller bearings are unlike bogies used in Britain until much more recently. Is the photograph in Britain? Paul 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanllan Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Could that be a sub that was lost or abandoned and subsequently recovered b the German navy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted March 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2020 The X51 was a post war submarine and (according to Wikipedia) was sold to the Swedish Navy in 1958. The photo of the sub on a railway wagon could have been taken in Sweden. Cheers Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 It looks like it's going to be way over the Brittish loading guage so another country with a more generous height limit would seem to make more sence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirey33 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 The sub in the picture has obviously seen service, so I would guess this is not the delivery trip from Barrow to Faslane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Verth Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 One of the continental manufacturers make or made a submarine on a railway wagon, they also made to accompany it a wagon with a load of torpedoes, it set me thinking how were torpedoes transported by rail in the UK. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2020 12 hours ago, Darius43 said: The X51 was a post war submarine and (according to Wikipedia) was sold to the Swedish Navy in 1958. The photo of the sub on a railway wagon could have been taken in Sweden. Cheers Darius That does look like X51: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJ Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 How do you test a submarine in Huddersfield? The canal’s not very deep 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham456 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, TomJ said: How do you test a submarine in Huddersfield? The canal’s not very deep Can't resist! First you put the plug in, then whilst the taps are running add matey bubble bath, when full clime in and test your submarine to your harts content ! Dosn't just apply to Huddersfield mind you its a wonder. What you learn about when railway modelling Edited March 6, 2020 by Graham456 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 16 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: 4 Sub? MIke. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Here’s one I prepared earlier. 6 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 It may be worth noting that the cranes in the background appear to be the horsehead type which, according to the Dockside Cranes thread elsewhere on RMWeb, was/is far more common in mainland Europe than in the UK. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
friscopete Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Lilliput made a German Seehund minisub on a wagon .it had a conning tower so different in most details from the sub in the photo.From memory the crew needed vast quantities of Pervitin to attempt to go to sea in them .It didnt end well . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Huddersfield Railway Station 4 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Patrick SPF Posted March 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2020 It is a Swedish class Ob, though I am not sure where... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted March 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2020 Is that on a RECTANK? Its going to have to have the capacity to carry a fair amount of weight... Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 One under test in the canal 3 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I had been told that they had tested them in the canal next to what is the university but i always took it with a pinch of salt. Also didn't think anyone would have allowed a camera any where near the project. Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted March 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, 25901 said: One under test in the canal I don't think that that is Huddersfield. I've just done a fly over on Google Earth, and the locks aren't that close together, and there isn't housing that close to the canal. I'd also heard the tale of them being tested in the canal basin at Huddersfield, but I wouldn't have thought it was that deep, deep enough to fully submerge, but not much more. Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Wherever it is, it would give the average weekend narrow-boater a bit of a shock if that surfaced alongside them. 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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