brianusa Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Controversy over a new paint job for the official A330! It needs to represent the Country say proponents whilst others say the cash would be better spent on other things. There is always a cry when what is seen as frivolous takes precedent over what others might regard as equally important. If the POTUS can have a Super 747 in what is universally considered to be an attractive livery, then the UK should have at least a A330 with a smart paint job instead of the RAF work's grey! Its important to give a good impression of the country when abroad especially when future Royals travel. It was bad enough losing the Britannia! Brian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted June 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2020 Bloody stupid waste of money. We'll be paying off the effects of C-19 for the next umpty-ump years; blowing the thick end of a million quid on cans of paint is silliness. edit: Park it up London for a few days and let the locals do an aerosol job on it. Save a fortune. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NittenDormer Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 I take it you are talking about a plane rather than a road? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Load Haul, suits everything. Next! C6T. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundy Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 10 hours ago, brianusa said: Controversy over a new paint job for the official A330! It needs to represent the Country say proponents whilst others say the cash would be better spent on other things. There is always a cry when what is seen as frivolous takes precedent over what others might regard as equally important. If the POTUS can have a Super 747 in what is universally considered to be an attractive livery, then the UK should have at least a A330 with a smart paint job instead of the RAF work's grey! Its important to give a good impression of the country when abroad especially when future Royals travel. It was bad enough losing the Britannia! Brian. It is a military aircraft with an occasional VIP role. pale grey = camouflage bright colours = target Best wishes Eric 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted June 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2020 If some people had their way, Boris would be sitting on top of the doghouse, ala Snoopy in 'Peanuts'... Anyway, planes need a repaint from time to time, so I don't what the fuss is about. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Firstly it isn't £900k for a repaint, it has had a heavy overhaul which included new paint. It's also used far more than just BJ's taxi, non of this makes a "good" news story so the media just focus on the livery issue. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted June 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2020 12 hours ago, polybear said: Bloody stupid waste of money. We'll be paying off the effects of C-19 for the next umpty-ump years; blowing the thick end of a million quid on cans of paint is silliness. edit: Park it up London for a few days and let the locals do an aerosol job on it. Save a fortune. Well graffiti would be representative of the U.K. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 16 hours ago, NittenDormer said: I take it you are talking about a plane rather than a road? I got caught out , read the first sentence of the post, then googled to find where the A330 ran to and from. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Post Brexit the official plane should not be a A330. It should be..., A De Havilland Comet, or a BAC One-Eleven, Vickers VC10 or maybe a Bristol Britannia (yer that sounds right), what about a Bristol Brabazon. Oh!, I think that maybe I have gone too far yet again. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted June 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2020 59 minutes ago, rocor said: Post Brexit the official plane should not be a A330. It should be..., A De Havilland Comet, or a BAC One-Eleven, Vickers VC10 or maybe a Bristol Britannia (yer that sounds right), what about a Bristol Brabazon. Oh!, I think that maybe I have gone too far yet again. To show the true ability (RIP) of the UK it should be Concorde (Ok, the French had a little input too). It's more likely to be a Sopwith Pup though. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted June 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2020 Fairey Rotodyne, Harrier, TSR2, Spitfire, Lightning, Mosquito, Tetse, Or.... Lancaster, Wellington, Vulcan, Valiant, Victor, Sunderland, Hampden, Halifax. Hows that? Probably a Horsa, though..... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 30801 Posted June 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2020 9 hours ago, w124bob said: Firstly it isn't £900k for a repaint, it has had a heavy overhaul which included new paint. It's also used far more than just BJ's taxi, non of this makes a "good" news story so the media just focus on the livery issue. Do you have a source for that as you'd think official spokespeople would be at pains to point that bit out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) New liveries on political executive air transport has been a big story in the US. Aircraft used for the AF1 flight designation still carry an iconic Raymond Loewy design first applied in 1962, at the behest of JFK. It replaced a hideous safety orange nose-end dip with white over polished aluminium which properly belonged in the 1950s. Lowey was a prolific industrial designer and designed many locomotive 'stylings' for the Pennsylvania Railroad (including streamliners S1, T1, Q1 and the GG1 electric locomotive). The current inhabitant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue wants to put his stamp on the AF1 design. (Putting his 'stamp' on things is very much his thing.) He has a model on a coffee table in his elliptical office in red, white and blue which he wants to see implemented. Apparently he likes to show it to visitors. To the best of my knowledge it has not yet been applied. Edited June 18, 2020 by Ozexpatriate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) These A330 Voyagers, are part of a private finance contract and are owned by a Tanker consortium of Airbus, Rolls Royce and others. That name indicates their primary role, as airborne refuelling planes, replacing the old VC10s. Nearly half of the fleet are leased by the consortium to commercial operators, but can supposedly be adapted quickly to their military role, the others are in RAF squadron service. The one that fulfilled the VIP role is in the current RAF fleet, and was adapted for the VIP role in 2014 I think, for David Cameron, Boris Johnson's ex friend, do you see a bit of one upmanship coming here. The original conversion retained the aircraft's military capability for transporting personnel or air refuelling, presumably why it was left in RAF operational camouflage colours. Now in it's new Blackpool rock colours, will it be used in an operational refuelling role, unlikely. Chalk off one RAF refuelling aircraft for a Boris vanity project. Bit like the water cannon he bought for London riot control, while mayor, without Home Office approval, which had to be scrapped. Edited June 18, 2020 by rembrow Added info 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 52 minutes ago, rembrow said: RAF operational camouflage colours By this do you mean low reflectivity grey? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ozexpatriate said: By this do you mean low reflectivity grey? Yes, correct. Now in high reflective bling. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 37 minutes ago, rembrow said: Now in high reflective bling It's not done yet though, correct? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Why have they suddenly brought this up? The whole thing was signed off when Boris was the Foreign Secretary over two years ago..... Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, Ozexpatriate said: It's not done yet though, correct? I understand the repaint is part of the overhaul it's currently having at Marshalls in Cambridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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