The Night Mail

[SM42]

2 hours ago, bbishop said:

Peter Principle?

 

That is a person is promoted to the maximum of their inefficiency 

 

The Dilbert Pronciple is slightly different 

 

The least effective workers are systematically moved to where they can do least damage; mamagement

 

Not sure that works for an MP

 

Andy

[SM42]

Our weekend guest has bought me these 

 

 

 

Cheeky mare

 

Andy

[Happy Hippo]

48 minutes ago, SM42 said:

Our weekend guest has bought me these 

 

 

 

Cheeky mare

 

Andy

If you don't need them, Dave Hunt and I will share a packet between us.

[SM42]

Note the warning top right 😁

 

Andy

[Dave Hunt]

My back still hurts like hell and it has been announced that No. 1 son and his two rugrats are visiting tomorrow. If you hear screaming from a northerly direction HH, you'll know what's causing it.

 

Dave

[PhilJ W]

6 hours ago, Tony_S said:

I suspect the app would contain the details if those who had “agreed” to have their membership details distributed. That is why reading those  “I  do , do not “ tick boxes on membership forms is sensible. 

If I'm only reading an article and one of those boxes pop up I just delete it (most have an X in a top corner for that purpose).

[Tony_S]

1 hour ago, PhilJ W said:

If I'm only reading an article and one of those boxes pop up I just delete it (most have an X in a top corner for that purpose).

This was I believe an app for for members of a political party to pay for access to,other members contact details. 

[J. S. Bach]

Night Owl from the Piedmont.

[iL Dottore]

16 hours ago, SM42 said:

Our weekend guest has bought me these 

 

 

 

Cheeky mare

 

Andy

Indeed, Andy, indeed.

 

And, I might say, a perfect example of the “medicalisation of the normal”; inventing (undoubtedly expensive) treatments for things that don’t need treating.

Oldgiteritis is perfectly natural and comes from many years of world weary experience with the realities of life.

 

There are actually three stages (or types if you will):

• Old Git (OG)
• Grumpy Old Git (GOG)
• Cynical Grumpy Old Git or Curmudgeonly Grumpy Old Git (CGOG)

Some authorities believe that Cynical Grumpy Old Git and Curmudgeonly Grumpy Old Git are mutually exclusive conditions. However, recent research shows that there is a state of perfection beyond that of CGOG, which is CCGOG: Cynical and Curmudgeonly Grumpy Old Git.

 

I am perfectly at ease with, and comfortable with, the (self) diagnosis of CCGOG and I’m most emphatically against any sort of treatment for my so-called “condition“.
 

And I bitterly resent any young person (i.e. anyone under the age of 50), telling me what I should or shouldn’t be! That is definitely ageism hate speech!

Edited April 6 by iL Dottore

[jamie92208]

16 hours ago, Winslow Boy said:

I use Persil as it gets everything sparkling.

Over here where @Oldddudders and I live,Persil is a very nice garnish that we grow in tubs.

 

Jamie

[Happy Hippo]

Morgan came around yesterday and did some tree pruning and cleared the old garden shed in preparation for it's and replacement on Monday.

 

In the afternoon I went over to the hospital at Shrewsbury on a follow up appointment after my latest bout of laser surgery.  The ocular pressures have now dropped considerably, so I've been told that I can stop taking the additional medication I'd been taking, so I'm now back on one drop per eye per day.  Of course they will continue to monitor this and I'm expecting a further check in 3 months time.

 

Not having to take so many eye drops, which have a somewhat 'abrasive' effect on the eye, ought to stop me looking like a drunkard who has not slept for 3 nights!  So, I will now be bright eyed once more, and add that to Ramrod Hunt's spinal experiences and it's a thumbs up for certain departments of the NHS in Shropshire.

 

Of course all this good news has to be tempered with the aftermath of our grandchildren's latest visit:  They have left Nyda with a cold.

 

Those who have read these pages for some time will know that such an event is not to be sniffed at, and that recovery will be a long drawn out affair.

 

The last time they visited, just after Christmas, colds were left as farewell gifts, and we have only just recovered from these.

 

I think the visit to the Guiding event we had been planning on attending today, will be a non starter.

 

This means I can get on with some work in the garage, although the whine and scream of various power tools just under the bed sick room window might not be appreciated.

Edited April 6 by Happy Hippo

[Happy Hippo]

I've not heard any screams from the Northern outpost yet!

[BSW01]

Probably because we are starting to batten down the hatches! 

[Tony_S]

28 minutes ago, BSW01 said:

Probably because we are starting to batten down the hatches! 

Our neighbours are returning from North Wales today to the relative calm of South Essex. I think they hoped to set off before Storm Kathleen affected their journey. It is a bit blustery here and isn’t expected to be much worse later today. 

[iL Dottore]

Returning, for a moment, to the “joke“ box of medication, did anyone notice the words “ take extra care with dentures” in the top right corner?

 

Why do people assume that anyone over 65 years of age is deaf, senile and edentulous? Although the United Kingdom is infamous (and justly so) for poor dentition and dental care, even in GB there are people 65 years of age or older who still have all their teeth (that’s original teeth, not “their own dentures [as opposed to shared dentures? The mind boggles]).

 

I wonder if this ageist stereotype derives from our grandparents generation? They indeed suffered the consequences in older age of inadequate nutrition and medical care in early childhood, plus dealing with all the stresses of fighting a world war coupled with a generally lax attitude towards health and safety in the working environment. 
 

When they set up the state pension, they expected few people to make it past 70 or so once retired. Nowadays, notwithstanding the Traditional British Diet (fried carbohydrates with a side of order of carbohydrates, followed by sugary carbohydrates - all washed down by alcoholic carbohydrates) more people are living well past the mid-70s than ever before.

 

This may not be sustainable.

[Steamport Southport]

4 hours ago, iL Dottore said:

Indeed, Andy, indeed.

 

And, I might say, a perfect example of the “medicalisation of the normal”; inventing (undoubtedly expensive) treatments for things that don’t need treating.

Oldgiteritis is perfectly natural and comes from many years of world weary experience with the realities of life.

 

There are actually three stages (or types if you will):

• Old Git (OG)
• Grumpy Old Git (GOG)
• Cynical Grumpy Old Git or Curmudgeonly Grumpy Old Git (CGOG)

Some authorities believe that Cynical Grumpy Old Git and Curmudgeonly Grumpy Old Git are mutually exclusive conditions. However, recent research shows that there is a state of perfection beyond that of CGOG, which is CCGOG: Cynical and Curmudgeonly Grumpy Old Git.

 

I am perfectly at ease with, and comfortable with, the (self) diagnosis of CCGOG and I’m most emphatically against any sort of treatment for my so-called “condition“.
 

And I bitterly resent any young person (i.e. anyone under the age of 50), telling me what I should or shouldn’t be! That is definitely ageism hate speech!

 

What about Randy Scouse Gits?

 

 

One for the teenagers there!

 

 

For those that don't know it's what Alf Garnett called the Tony Booth character in Til Death Us Do Part and later a song by The Monkees.

 

[Hroth]

41 minutes ago, iL Dottore said:

Returning, for a moment, to the “joke“ box of medication, did anyone notice the words “ take extra care with dentures” in the top right corner?

 

Why do people assume that anyone over 65 years of age is deaf, senile and edentulous? Although the United Kingdom is infamous (and justly so) for poor dentition and dental care, even in GB there are people 65 years of age or older who still have all their teeth (that’s original teeth, not “their own dentures [as opposed to shared dentures? The mind boggles]).

 

I wonder if this ageist stereotype derives from our grandparents generation? They indeed suffered the consequences in older age of inadequate nutrition and medical care in early childhood, plus dealing with all the stresses of fighting a world war coupled with a generally lax attitude towards health and safety in the working environment. 
 

When they set up the state pension, they expected few people to make it past 70 or so once retired. Nowadays, notwithstanding the Traditional British Diet (fried carbohydrates with a side of order of carbohydrates, followed by sugary carbohydrates - all washed down by alcoholic carbohydrates) more people are living well past the mid-70s than ever before.

 

This may not be sustainable.

 

Re dentures, before the NHS "working class" people, especially women, would have a trip to the dentists as their 21st birthday present, to have all their teeth removed and a full set of shiny new dentures fitted.  To be fair, by time they were 21, their teeth might be rotting away already, preventative dental treatment not being a normal procedure for children pre-NHS. It saved a lot of continuing pain and occasional dental visits.

 

After the introduction of FREE NHS dental treatment, there was a flood of men and women wanting complete extractions and full dentures.  Partial dentures were not as popular because vulcanite and then plastic ones were relatively bulky and fragile, and before the introduction of cobalt-chrome, metal dentures were gold and thus rather expensive, even on the NHS.

 

It was this demand for dentures on the NHS that led to charges being introduced for dental treatment, charges that have become more onerous as years have gone by.

 

Where were we?  🤔🤪

 

 

 

Edited April 6 by Hroth

[Dave Hunt]

2 hours ago, Happy Hippo said:

I've not heard any screams from the Northern outpost yet!

 They're not due to arrive until 1300. I've got net to my chair a large bag full of choccy treats that I will throw at them as soon as they enter the room.

 

Dave 

[Hroth]

4 minutes ago, Dave Hunt said:

 They're not due to arrive until 1300. I've got net to my chair a large bag full of choccy treats that I will throw at them as soon as they enter the room.

 

Dave 

 

How about a walking stick with a drawing pin sellotaped to the bottom as an added precaution?

 

Good luck!

 

[Dave Hunt]

6 hours ago, iL Dottore said:

Some authorities believe that Cynical Grumpy Old Git and Curmudgeonly Grumpy Old Git are mutually exclusive conditions. However, recent research shows that there is a state of perfection beyond that of CGOG, which is CCGOG: Cynical and Curmudgeonly Grumpy Old Git.

 

1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said:

What about Randy Scouse Gits?

 

I am proud of the fact that I can claim to be both a CCGOG and a randy Scouse Git. We are a small but select group.

 

Dave

[Steamport Southport]

Not quite an old cynical curmudgeon, but working on it!

 

 

 

[iL Dottore]

1 hour ago, Hroth said:

After the introduction of FREE NHS dental treatment, there was a flood of men and women wanting complete extractions and full dentures. 

Isn’t it (wasn’t it?) against the dentists code of ethics to remove perfectly healthy teeth? I don’t see that as being acceptable dental practice in many other countries.

1 hour ago, Hroth said:

It was this demand for dentures on the NHS that led to charges being introduced for dental treatment, charges that have become more onerous as years have gone by.

But what price health? There seems an incredible reluctance to pay for medical & dental care amongst the British, even when they can afford to do so. It seems that many would rather wait in pain, slowly deteriorating rather than fork out for treatment.
 

My maternal grandfather, a grand old chap (definitely traditional working class who, in the 1930s, went down the mines aged 12 to help feed the family), made a very very apposite comment about the NHS and government services in general. He said “appreciate what they give you, but never ever forget that if they give with the one hand they can (and will) take away with the other”. Wise words indeed.

 

There are a lot of myths about the foundation of the NHS one of which was only the Tories voted against it. Nothing further from the truth, many groups and parties such as the LCC, various health charities and working class benevolent societies (such as the one my Grandfather was involved in) were against the NHS as they feared, quite rightly, that the NHS would come in, take over the clinics and cottage hospitals created by the charities and benevolent societies for their members, run everything from Whitehall whilst arrogantly ignoring and marginalising those who knew the local needs and local concerns.

They had a point.

 

But at least it’s free…..

 

 

[iL Dottore]

40 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said:

Not quite an old cynical curmudgeon, but working on it!

You miss the point, anyone who has the talent can be cynical, curmudgeonly and grumpy - even at a young age (although it is rare to see CCG folk under the age of 30).

 

But to become a Cynical, Curmudgeonly, Grumpy Old Git - well the secret is in the highlighted word: Old.
 

Nothing can replace years of experience “on the tools“ (so to speak) and a fancy degree from a Russell Group University will not make you a CCGOG any faster!

 

But keep on being cynical and curmudgeonly, we oldies like to see talent emerge and develop!

[Steamport Southport]

11 minutes ago, iL Dottore said:

You miss the point, anyone who has the talent can be cynical, curmudgeonly and grumpy - even at a young age (although it is rare to see CCG folk under the age of 30).

 

But to become a Cynical, Curmudgeonly, Grumpy Old Git - well the secret is in the highlighted word: Old.
 

Nothing can replace years of experience “on the tools“ (so to speak) and a fancy degree from a Russell Group University will not make you a CCGOG any faster!

 

But keep on being cynical and curmudgeonly, we oldies like to see talent emerge and develop!

 

Got those coming out of my ears!

[polybear]

46 minutes ago, iL Dottore said:

Isn’t it (wasn’t it?) against the dentists code of ethics to remove perfectly healthy teeth?

 

 

I’m sure it was/is - but some Dentists made such a sh*tload of money doing it they were quite happy to do so