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[Fat Controller]

4 hours ago, nigb55009 said:

It looks like a side tipping wagon. They were built at Heywood and used on stone traffic around Montrose, TOPS code PTA.

The one in the photo is the 4-wheel prototype prototype for the bogie ones built fot Thompson's and Boothferry  Council. I don't think it ever ran commercially; was it at the Cricklewood exhibition?

My apologies; squinting allowed to see the presence of two bogies on the side-tipper

Edited October 25, 2023 by Fat Controller
correction of my original post.

[MattR]

Rawtenstall CCD on Feb. 6, 1979 -- snow and coal. Can anyone identify the wagon with the ladder in the background?

 

 

 

 

Edited October 25, 2023 by MattR

[Nearholmer]

My wild guess would be that it carried scrap steel for recycling.

[Fat Controller]

23 minutes ago, MattR said:

Rawtenstall CCD on Feb. 6, 1979 -- snow and coal. Can anyone identify the wagon with the ladder in the background?

 

 

 

 

It's one of the prototype scrap wagons built by Standard Railcar; the production ones had more (and beefier) vertical and horizontal bracing. About two hundred wagons were built or converted. Later EWS bought them; those still running have been rebodied, and are coded SSA. Most work from Trostre to Port Talbot with scrap.

[Rich_F]

Class 50028 at Clapham, but not on the usual service...

 

 

[hmrspaul]

4 hours ago, MattR said:

Rawtenstall CCD on Feb. 6, 1979 -- snow and coal. Can anyone identify the wagon with the ladder in the background?

 

 

 

 

This one https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/scrapwagonssa/ef24c39f   later painted more like the remainder of the fleet https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/scrapwagonssa/e1deac24a 

 

Paul

[hmrspaul]

On 24/10/2023 at 17:48, montyburns56 said:

This is another one of those "places that I wish that I'd visited back in the day"

 

Standard Wagon Works Heywood by Dallam Dave

 

 

 

Interesting that both the Standard works have been discussed on RMWeb in the past day or so. 

 

Photos https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/standardheywood a very accessible yard. 

Also a book       

Paul

[MattR]

15 minutes ago, hmrspaul said:

This one https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/scrapwagonssa/ef24c39f   later painted more like the remainder of the fleet https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/scrapwagonssa/e1deac24a 

 

Paul

 

Excellent stuff as usual! I never imagined it was painted in bright yellow. Shame no one makes a RTR or kit version of it.

[hmrspaul]

6 hours ago, Steven B said:

The same wagon,

(Chaddy Goods on Flickr)

 

They were still in use in 1999, with EWS Class 56 for haulage: https://flic.kr/p/MhYWso 

 

 

 

 

Standard Wagon came up with some interesting stuff in the 1980s. My favourite (apart from the self-discharge train) was the in-line tipper:

Prototype Standard Wagon 78T In-Line PTA Tipper REDA28100 at Mountsorrel 17 Sep 1987 by Dave Bower, on Flickr

 

SB

Not only Thompsons but also Booths https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/sidetippta  

 

The inline tipper in Standard wagon's own livery https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/srw28100pta on show. 

 

Paul 

[PerthBox]

On 25/10/2023 at 12:14, Steven B said:

The same wagon,

(Chaddy Goods on Flickr)

 

They were still in use in 1999, with EWS Class 56 for haulage: https://flic.kr/p/MhYWso 

 

They lasted a few years beyond 1999 - I have a photo somewhere of a set being tipped at Montrose in late 2003 or early 2004. I think they went out of use not long after that then they were stored at Tees Yard (if I remember correctly) for a few years before being scrapped.

[Fat Controller]

That scrap wagon would make a nice  (and relatively simple) model.

The people at Heywood were very helpful; I wrote a polite letter, asking if there were any drawings for the different styles of scrap wagon. A few weeks later, the postman knocked on the door, and presented me with a (very) large envelope, containing full sets of workshop drawings. Sadly, the works closed just after I acknowledged their package.

I believe the last vestiges of the Powell-Duffryn  (the parent company) empire is a wagon works near Orleans .

[montyburns56]

22 hours ago, hmrspaul said:

 

Interesting that both the Standard works have been discussed on RMWeb in the past day or so. 

 

Photos https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/standardheywood a very accessible yard. 

Also a book       

Paul

 

Yeah, I already own the book thanks, which when I read it made me even sadder about the place the place closing. I used to see it marked on old maps and I just presumed that it was some old fashioned company that went bankrupt due to not modernising, but the book showed me that that that was very much not the case.

[Artless Bodger]

On 25/10/2023 at 13:53, Rich_F said:

Class 50028 at Clapham, but not on the usual service...

 

 

Would that be the train from Allington? I've checked the Flickr page but no details. The Allington trains were usually 56 hauled in 1985, the last time I saw them, previously double headed 33s.

[eastwestdivide]

9 minutes ago, Artless Bodger said:

Would that be the train from Allington? I

Looks like the right hoppers, and was Allington the only ARC destination on the SR? Possibly a failure somewhere I’d guess

[Artless Bodger]

 

It is the only one I know that would be supplied via London, but am ready to be corrected. Here's the empties passing New Hythe sometime around 1984/5. The loco number appears to be 56057.

 

And an earlier one with two x 33s. Sorry, poor quality, taken with an instamatic.

[Stoke West]

32 minutes ago, Artless Bodger said:

Would that be the train from Allington? I've checked the Flickr page but no details. The Allington trains were usually 56 hauled in 1985, the last time I saw them, previously double headed 33s.

It looks to be going into the yard

 

33 minutes ago, Artless Bodger said:

Would that be the train from Allington? I've checked the Flickr page but no details. The Allington trains were usually 56 hauled in 1985, the last time I saw them, previously double headed 33s.

 

38 minutes ago, Artless Bodger said:

Would that be the train from Allington? I've checked the Flickr page but no details. The Allington trains were usually 56 hauled in 1985, the last time I saw them, previously double headed 33s.

It looks like 50028 is running into the yard 

[Rich_F]

Inspiration for your modern era depots 

 

 

[SouthernBlue80s]

On 13/10/2023 at 13:51, rodent279 said:

Don't really associate 25's with the Southern, how common were they in later years, say post-1975?

 

To my knowledge. The only services they appeared on were those down to Norwood and I have only seen pictures of them in the 70s on it.

 

Exceptions I know of are

 

I heard a report of a 25 making it to Ashford in the late 70s on a special to Dover. It was pulled off at Ashford and apparently returned light. But no number and no picture of it...so perhaps it is an urban myth.

 

I have a picture of double headed 25s with coal empties St Mary Cray way in the mid 70s.

 

I am not sure a 25 made it to Hither Green on freight in the 70s and 80s. I know the odd 31, 37 and 40 did. (I know 25s made it to Hither Green in the late 60s)

 

[LMS2968]

19 minutes ago, Rich_F said:

Inspiration for your modern era depots 

Or Springs Branch, 20 July 2020, brand new!

 

 

[Darius43]

2 hours ago, LMS2968 said:

Or Springs Branch, 20 July 2020, brand new!

 

 

Presumably you mean the depot is brand new, not the units…

 

Cheers

 

Darius

[LMS2968]

That's what I said! The units were rejects from down south somewhere. I don't really know; my knowledge of Springs Branch allocations stops at Black Fives in December 1967!

[nigb55009]

The entrance gate at Springs Branch has three different signs, one for each of the companies that now use the site. They all have different definitions

of the  work carried out there:-

Northern Rail- Wigan TMD.

DB- Wigan T& RS Depot.

Network Rail- Seasonal Depot Wigan.

I wonder if there are any other sites with similar titles.

[Rich_F]

 

That comment reply section is a cracking read!

[woodenhead]

Lovely set of some class 50s stabled as well in that photostream, leaving that GUV with the end doors open is asking for trouble though 🤣

 

[woodenhead]

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