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Do youtubers contribute positively to railway modelling?

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woodenhead

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4 minutes ago, Legend said:

As a further example of positive contributions , have another look at Sams trains , who is designing "Gladstone" using 3d printers .  A working model and he will release the files for anyone wanting to use .   Thats got to be useful contribution 

But more fun would be an 3d printed APT

 

Oh, Dave Jones already did that.

 

Where's the groan button :D

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Legend

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56 minutes ago, woodenhead said:

But more fun would be an 3d printed APT

 

Oh, Dave Jones already did that.

 

Where's the groan button :D

 

With exploding capacitors?

 

Double groan

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HonestTom

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16 hours ago, Ruston said:


Nothing that you say will change my mind about Youtube

That's all you ever had to say.

 

14 hours ago, woodenhead said:

When you need half a page to describe your arguments, either for or against then we’re taking this thread way too seriously.

 

There are a lot of people expending a lot of time and effort, but the sheer amount of words is off putting to be able to digest.

 

it’s just model trains at the end of the day, does it really matter that much to get upset about?

 

I am a professional YouTuber, it's a thread about YouTubers. I'm going to have strong opinions.

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Jol Wilkinson

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1 hour ago, HonestTom said:

I am a professional YouTuber, it's a thread about YouTubers. I'm going to have strong opinions.

Does that mean that YouTube employ you, or you are paid through the number of views you get (with associated advertising?). The whole "monetizing" of peoples online activities is something of a mystery to me.

 

And being employed in a particular industry and developing strong opinions doesn't necessarily mean that those opinions are correct or appropriate.

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1 minute ago, Jol Wilkinson said:

Does that mean that YouTube employ you, or you are paid through the number of views you get (with associated advertising?). The whole "monetizing" of peoples online activities is something of a mystery to me.

Well basically there are five direct forms of monetisation.

 

1. Advertising. This is on a per-view basis. The more views you get, the more money you make. However, you are at the mercy of the advertisers. For instance, revenue goes up in December and down in January, due to spending trends either side of Christmas. If your content is viewed as "advertiser unfriendly," you'll likely get fewer or lower-paying advertisers. If your channel is specialised, that can make it worth more to advertisers, as while it gets fewer views, viewers are more likely to be engaged.

 

2. Direct payment from YouTube. YouTube has a membership scheme whereby people can pay to become a "member" of your channel. I don't use this myself, so I don't know a lot about it. There's also YouTube Premium, where people pay a fee not to see ads - a proportion of this goes to your channel depending on how much of it they watch.

 

3. Sponsorship. You approach a company or a company approaches you to advertise directly in a video, for which you're paid a fee. I usually get my sponsors through an agency. It's independent of YouTube, but you do have to declare if you're being sponsored in the video.

 

4. Donations. Probably the most popular platform is Patreon, whereby people can sign up and pay a regular donation to your channel in return for exclusive content. I also use Ko-Fi, which is more for one-off small donations.

 

5. Merchandise. This is another thing I haven't tried yet.

 

1 minute ago, Jol Wilkinson said:

 

And being employed in a particular industry and developing strong opinions doesn't necessarily mean that those opinions are correct or appropriate.

I totally agree. That's why I express them in a discussion forum, where people can respond and rebut.

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On 05/06/2021 at 11:48, Wheatley said:

Some of it is downright dangerous. You can, for example, run a Hornby set in a paddling pool (really, I was surprised too) and it is TOTALLY NOT DANGEROUS because the Youtuber involved (yes, it's him) SAID SO IN CAPITALS BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 12VOLTS.

 

No mention of what happens when little Johny goes to unplug the controller from the 240v extention trailing across the garden with wet hands. 

 

Hi @Wheatley

 

This one really surprised me as well. I know the person in question can be a wee bit silly on occassion but he obviously has some talent and skills. The eletric/paddling pool video went far beyond silly and I agree positively dangerous. The young chap should put his efforts in to more productive persuits like his current series on building an OO loco from scratch (IMHO). 

 

Kind regards

 

Paddy

 

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6990WitherslackHall

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35 minutes ago, Paddy said:

The electric/paddling pool video went far beyond silly and I agree positively dangerous.

 

Something similar to this happened on the Great Model Railway Challenge TV series as seen on channel 5. The team involved built a flat layout based on somewhere in Holland, flooded it, drained it and then ran a train. I think they were trying to recreate a flood that happened years ago.

 

Anyway, I strongly agree with you. Electricity and water is a dangerous combination and can get someone killed.

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24 minutes ago, 6990WitherslackHall said:

 

Something similar to this happened on the Great Model Railway Challenge TV series as seen on channel 5. The team involved built a flat layout based on somewhere in Holland, flooded it, drained it and then ran a train. I think they were trying to recreate a flood that happened years ago.

 

Anyway, I strongly agree with you. Electricity and water is a dangerous combination and can get someone killed.

well they are born different....chosen scale 3mm!!! nuff said...

 

 

 

 

 

 

i can say it ....as just took delivery of 50yds of 14.2mm gauge track and have some of British finescale points on order.....born different!

 

 

 

guess what I'm doing tonight whilst watching you tube!!

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Clive Mortimore

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I have been dipping in and out of this thread and have come this conclusion.

 

If the person making the video is having fun (and being paid for it) .....great.

If those viewing the video enjoy it.....great.

No one is forced to make or view a Youtube video

 

Feel free to take a butchers, I will not be offended if you don't.

 

 

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Totally changed my mind about matey boy here. I thought he only appealed to 8 year olds but when he did worst trains of 2021 , and said “ I can’t do a worst trains of 2021 without at least one mention of Heljan …” he won me over !

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Sixteen pages in and you'd think that the only YouTube channel is Sam's Trains.

 

These are some channels I subscribe to that to me show there is a lot of good content

  • LNWR Crook Street (7mm and guess the railway)
  • Simons Shed - N gauge, building a Severn Valley Railway in his shed, gave me the confidence to wire my Farish 08 and an 04 for DCC
  • Bath Green Park (7mm)
  • Down the Junction (from the makers of Pendeford)
  • New Junction (ok, he's from the competition) - got me doing DCC without soldering
  • Red Dirt and Rails - HO Farmland North America
  • McKinley Railway - sprawling OO railway
  • SoCal Scale Models - HO NA shelf layout

These lead to lots of other interesting channels, and I simply add ignores to any channels that I don't want to see.

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Clive Mortimore

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There is a lot of slagging off about Sam's trains.

Who here has scratchbulit there own locos?

I have  and Sam has.

 

Check out Sam's Galdstone loco, 3D designing and printing your own working model loco is scracthbuilding in my mind.

 

If others learn how to make there own models from watching his videos then what a wonderful contributor to our hobby. 

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I think the problem I have is the first video I watched didn’t enamour me to him and my mind was made up!

 

similarly Francis bourgeois his go pro videos are not my cup of tea but some of his vids done with GBRf are actually quite good, as long as they don’t ask me to star in them!

 

as for ‘other videos’ @Erixtar1992 has some damn good modelling content on his YouTube site

 

https://youtube.com/c/erixtar1992
 

 

 

 

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What I do like about Sam: he buys his own models, so no obligation to be nice to a manufacturer who gave him a free one; he's critical of qa failures, a manufacturer in 2022 should have higher standards; and he's unflinchingly critical about poor running.

 

But he knows nothing about the prototype and is over critical sometimes about stuff that just doesn't matter much.  And, ye gods, does he witter on endlessly.  His videos could be half the length and miss nothing.

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Surely, having the widest possible range of mediums available enables the modelling message to reach out and entice the widest range of potential modellers? Utube modelling won’t appeal to everyone (no single approach does) but as long as it is a positive experience for those that enjoy it, then it must be a good thing.

 

On a related theme I was struggling to replace a defective thermostat on my girlfriend’s car, so watched a Utube video on the issue and fixed it very soon after. Sometimes Utube is the ideal solution.

 

BeRTIe

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I have over 100 videos of my trains running on my layout, but that's all it is. No instructional videos, not even any commentary on my videos while recording. Just watching trains run. I don't make any money and have no desire to. There is usually German Alpen Musik playing in the background from my internet radio station and I'm tipping back a beer.

 

But it's just for fun. My son likes to see them from Florida where he lives and my grandson is crazy about trains.

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5 hours ago, BR traction instructor said:

Surely, having the widest possible range of mediums available enables the modelling message to reach and entice the widest range of potential modellers? Utube modelling won’t appeal to everyone but as long as it is a positive experience for those that enjoy it, then it must be a good thing.

 

On a related theme I was struggling to replace a defective thermostat on my girlfriend’s car, so watched a Utube video on the issue and fixed it very soon after. Sometimes Utube is the ideal solution.

 

BeRTIe

I think it's very much horses for courses. Some things are most easily explained in a visual medium and some in a written medium. I think it also depends on how you learn best - I find that watching a demonstration works better for me than reading instructions.

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6 hours ago, MichaelE said:

I have over 100 videos of my trains running on my layout, but that's all it is. No instructional videos, not even any commentary on my videos while recording. Just watching trains run. I don't make any money and have no desire to. There is usually German Alpen Musik playing in the background from my internet radio station and I'm tipping back a beer.

 

But it's just for fun. My son likes to see them from Florida where he lives and my grandson is crazy about trains.

Same for me (but over a 1000 videos now).  What is your channel?

Mine is https://www.youtube.com/user/sncf231e

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Fred

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