RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2021 Hello Folks, a bit of idle musing here. In a purely hypothetical situation, British Railways built more 70xxx locomotives... So, which or what names, perchance? Social references have changed in the past 60+ years, However, please, let's keep it civil ( I hope) so perhaps 'Chuffy McChuffyface' is not an ideal choice. I've stopped the timeline at 1965-ish. I've got a few, to start it off. Florence Nightingale Anuerin Bevan National Trust Frank Whittle Barnes Wallis Campbell Jane Austen Enid Blyton Sir Henry Wood Sir Edmund Hilary Tenzing Sir Roger Bannister Sir Francis Chichester 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Alexander Fleming Agatha Christie Sylvia Peters Stanley Matthews (1965 too early for Bobby Moore) Winston Churchill Douglas Bader Stirling Moss Edited July 28, 2021 by AY Mod 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2021 Civil? as in engineer.. Sir Robert McAlpine of course.. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Keir Hardy Sylvia Pankhurst Edited July 28, 2021 by Downer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pete the Elaner Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Guy Fawkes Sir Isaac Newton Christopher Cockerell (Maybe. His work was a little late, but there was an unnamed one which could have been given his name during its service life). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, tomparryharry said: Hello Folks, a bit of idle musing here. In a purely hypothetical situation, British Railways built more 70xxx locomotives... So, which or what names, perchance? Social references have changed in the past 60+ years, However, please, let's keep it civil ( I hope) so perhaps 'Chuffy McChuffyface' is not an ideal choice. I've stopped the timeline at 1965-ish. I've got a few, to start it off. Sir Francis Chichester He is the only one that I would choose. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Should be some more Naval ones, such as: Earl Jellicoe Sir Bruce Fraser Sir Andrew Cunningham 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, eastglosmog said: Should be some more Naval ones, such as: Earl Jellicoe Sir Bruce Fraser Sir Andrew Cunningham Earl Cunningham of Hyndhope, please. Very definitely! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickstart Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Alan Turing 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Easy. There was a list of names published. The next ones were mostly Scottish rivers carrying on from the Firths. Don't forget they were named depending on region and the WR were all named after early locos. The next batch was something like twenty for Scotland. Personally I would have liked more of the "ignored" CMEs and Locomotive Superintendents to have been honoured. Obviously with full names and titles if they had them. Fowler Aspinall Hughes Webb Ivatt Stroudley Adams Billington etc. Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Metr0Land said: Snip ..... Winston Churchill ....... Only if 34051 (ex 21C151) was renamed first! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) William Blake Percy Bysshe Shelley Virginia Woolf H.G.Wells J.R.R.Tolkien George Orwell Thomas Stearns Eliot Edited July 28, 2021 by Downer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Britney Spears.... Oops! .....I did it again Come on, you were all thinking it..... 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2021 Britney Spears.... Oops! .....I did it again Come on, you were all thinking it..... Well, we are now! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2021 Alan Turing Unlikely for two reasons, firstly the work which was undertaken at Bletchley Park was still classified and subject to the official secrets and secondly, homosexuality was a crime and Alan was convicted of this and forced to undergo degrading treatments to 'cure' him. By the time more enlightened attitudes and Alan's true worth been appreciated British Railways had long ditched steam traction.... British heroes like Florence Nightingale would however have been perfectly acceptable in the 50s and 60s 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2021 Only if 34051 (ex 21C151) was renamed first! A surprising number of names got duplicated and were not altered by BR. 'Spitfire' was carried by both a GWR castle class and a SR BOB for example... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted July 28, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2021 Easy. There was a list of names published. The next ones were mostly Scottish rivers carrying on from the Firths. Don't forget they were named depending on region and the WR were all named after early locos. The next batch was something like twenty for Scotland. Personally I would have liked more of the "ignored" CMEs and Locomotive Superintendents to have been honoured. Obviously with full names and titles if they had them. Fowler Aspinall Hughes Webb Ivatt Stroudley Adams Billington etc. Jason Oh yes, I'd forgotten about Harold Holcroft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2021 A surprising number of names got duplicated and were not altered by BR. 'Spitfire' was carried by both a GWR castle class and a SR BOB for example... Prince of Wales must hold the record: BR had four steam locos of that name, although no more than three at any one time (Star 4041 was withdrawn before Vale of Rheidol No 9 was named) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 However those were inherited locomotives. When Britannia was named 45700 was renamed Amethyst. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurenceb Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 No 7 Owan Glynwr. Also a Brit both named by BR 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddles Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Only if 34051 (ex 21C151) was renamed first! With the actual loco having been used on the funeral train on 30th January 1965, and subsequently being preserved, that would never have been a likely option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Easy. There was a list of names published. Jason, is that list available online? I’ve had a look but can’t find anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 No 7 Owan Glynwr. Also a Brit both named by BR To be pedantic, the Brit was named Owen Glendower (at least until c1966) and No.7 was named Owain Glyndŵr. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2021 With the actual loco having been used on the funeral train on 30th January 1965, and subsequently being preserved, that would never have been a likely option. Building a new fleet of steam locos after 1964 simply wasn't going to happen! As such, had a Britannia been built and named 'Winston Churchill before 1965, then whose to say that it, rather than the 34051 wouldn't have ben used? Its not as though 34051 had a specific wartime connection (other than its name) having been built post 1945 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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